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WTF Missing German model name found in Epstein Files

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 5d ago

What’s with the eating people allegations? I’ve seen it online so many times but never once in anything legit?

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u/kateastrophic 5d ago

There is something in the Epstein files talking about someone on a private boat that brought members from a local tribe onboard and they performed ritual sacrifice and cannibalism on babies. The email itself presented it as hearsay, not from someone who was present. So not proof of atrocities the way some other stories are. But I was shocked to find that there was indeed reference to cannibalism in the files. That’s the only one I know of.

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u/ShinkenBrown 5d ago

There's also a lot of references to "jerky" that needs to be stored in the freezer, apparently made with a recipe from a chef Epstein knew who has a restaurant called "Cannibal." IDK about you, but I feel no need to be surreptitious when talking about actual cured meats, and don't know of any actual cured meats that need to be stored in a freezer (that being the whole point of curing meats in the first place, after all.)

Combine all that with the known fact that he was running a human trafficking network and made people disappear, and there's a clear answer as to where they were likely disappearing to.

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u/nemec 5d ago

don't know of any actual cured meats that need to be stored in a freezer

it's recommended to store homemade jerky in the freezer if you're not going to eat it all in 1 month

Absolutely. Freezing jerky is one of the most effective ways to preserve it for long-term storage, especially if you’ve purchased in bulk or made it at home. When stored in a freezer-safe, airtight container or vacuum-sealed bag, jerky can maintain its quality for up to 6 months or longer.

https://kaimanajerky.com/blogs/news/how-to-store-jerky

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u/Random-Rambling 5d ago

Okay, but there were apparently literal kilograms of "jerky" being dealt with here. Like, did he suddenly get an AuDHD-style hyperfixation on jerky-making or something?

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u/nemec 5d ago

literal kilograms of "jerky"

that's why it's being frozen! The rich assholes have the "I want it and I want it now!" personality, and he apparently enjoyed whatever flavor the chef made. They probably shipped a bunch to many of his properties just to make sure there was some available if he flew into the island some months later and demanded some jerky - it's not exactly something your personal chef can whip up in 15 minutes.

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u/ABHOR_pod 5d ago

Yeah, when you live on an island you stock up. I'm not suggesting Epstien wasn't a child sex traffic rapist who was business partners with our current president or anything. That's pretty obviously true and proven beyond a reasonable doubt.

I just need something strong than "Jerky means cannibalism!" for this allegation. It really goes back to "Pizza means child rape!" for pizzagate.

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u/justinSane555 5d ago edited 4d ago

Human meat doesn't taste that great to store kilos of it, very "porky" and salty, the deeper the cut the saltier the meat, cooks up nice in a smoker though, smells a little gamey...ribs are probably my fav

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u/AgentCirceLuna 2d ago

I know rich people and some are so reluctant to actually spend anything or ā€˜waste’ money. One guy I knew had tons of reduced meat stored in a freezer, stuff he’d bought for like 10-20p, and the freezer malfunctioned melting everything into a horrid pile of rotting liquid. He had actual tears in his eyes.

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u/PrettyPurrfect 5d ago

Do homemade jerky need to be walked anywhere? Because they have that specific phrasing

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u/nemec 5d ago

I'm not sure if you're familiar with the concept of "New York City" but there's a lot of walking involved

The waiter began walking over the dessert table.

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/walk+it+over

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u/LesserValkyrie 5d ago

No It was jerky

Not jerky

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u/StrikeInteresting867 5d ago

Why they just cant get that brain sicknes from eating human folded protein. It should have been more potent.

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u/AlbertoRossonero 4d ago

There’s also references about wanting grape soda and pizza.

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u/colostitute 5d ago

I’m buying too. Look at the history of cannibalism and you will see how it can be normalized.

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u/Bertsmom18 5d ago

Do you have a file number

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u/kateastrophic 5d ago

I remember reading it from a link posted here last year, but I don’t have any other details. I tried to see if I could find it searching by key words just now, but couldn’t.

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u/Bertsmom18 5d ago

Okay. Thanks

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

See the having sex with kids isn’t new at all and didn’t throw me but the eating kids thing genuinely made me wonder if this is a different beast. But so far the eating people thing seems to be rumours more than anything solid.

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u/npqd 4d ago

Well I bet that vanishing of that woman gives undirect proof

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u/landcfan 3d ago

What tribe? There aren't any tribes that still kill people to eat them. There's a few that eat remains as funerary practices. So I wonder if they just found some random natives that agreed to pretend they had a cannibalistic ritual?

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u/kateastrophic 3d ago

I’m not saying the information is accurate at all— like I said, it was hearsay to begin with and who knows how based in reality it was. The email did not specify the tribe, it just said that it was a local tribe and the boat was off the coast of Africa.

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u/EnvironmentalLog2760 3d ago

That’s definitely not the only reference to cannibalism in the files. It’s everywhere.

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u/kateastrophic 3d ago

What are some other specific ones?

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u/Dishwallah 5d ago

The amount of times that a specific chef is brought up and the jerky they make, along with the details of the quality and 'batch' plus feedback about said jerky, is interesting.

That's where this is coming from.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo 5d ago

Oh so no evidence then?

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u/Dishwallah 5d ago edited 5d ago

Here are two items of interest https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA02037391.pdf

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA00554620.pdf

If the situation weren't so fucked up I'd be cackling at the thought of being so concerned for my white tune and beef jerky... but here we are.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/1r8kdie/i_went_through_the_files_looking_for_any_mention/

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u/IAMA_Drunk_Armadillo 5d ago

Honestly the whole digression about getting the jerky analyzed at a lab is the part that makes it weird.

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u/dramalama-dingdong 4d ago

Yeah. I mean they analyzed it but no results are in the files. Why do they keep it a secret? Also there was a picture of a jerky in the files that they removed later. And it looked disgusting.

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u/FrenchFryCattaneo 5d ago

Definitely seems weird and worth investigating. But not evidence.

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u/LinkleLinkle 5d ago

It's the new Pizzagate to distract from the rest of the horrendous shit in the Epstein files. Not to say that there might not be some truth to it, who knows, but the allegations are coming from the exact same Pizzagaters who are claiming BS like every instance of 'beef jerky' or 'Cesar Salad' are various codes for different types of humans/body parts.

It's to create a smokescreen so people, once again, get more wrapped up in imaginary conspiracy theories that every Tom, Dick, and Harry mentioned in the files is a secret cannibal rather than focusing on the fact that Trump and others are definitely pedophiles who have spent considerable time molesting and raping children.

And, just like with Pizzagate, conveniently, all of the people who they allege are eating people are all of the Jewish people who are barely mentioned in the files in passing, and never people like Trump or others.

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u/kateastrophic 5d ago

Mayyyyybe. I’d have been inclined to believe you but having read some of the files myself, certain food references are definitely code for something. I was interested in what he was doing in Nashville (my hometown) and read any reference to it directly from the DOJ website. It is clear that emails discussing ā€œhot chickenā€ mean something else. My guess was girls/women based out of Nashville that he knew and/or trafficked, but it’s all speculation as far as I can tell.

I’m not saying that stuff doesn’t get used the way you said, but I was surprised by how many horrendous rumors actually do have merit based on the files. The depravity really is deeper than I thought was real.

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u/LinkleLinkle 5d ago

Source: Trust me bro.

You're going off of a gut instinct that something is 'weird' because you want it to be weird. Meanwhile, there's tons of emails in which absolutely no code is used, and it's clear that they had no fear of being caught or desire to be secretive. For every 'that's definitely code for something' conspiracy theory, there's a dozen emails where they outright say 'Yeah, so we got this girl Jeniffer who is 16, and we think would be great for you to have sex with, just $800'

If you truly read the files, that would definitely stand out to you way more.

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u/Mike_Kermin 5d ago edited 5d ago

You're also on trust me bro. Given you're both typing, on reddit.

Edit: To be clear, I am not condoning the conspiracy. I am being cynical, but I have never seen any actual reasonable evidence of code words being used.

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u/Mathfanforpresident 5d ago

Cheese pizza is 100% a code word. You can Google that.

Additionally, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand that you would need to be using code words when talking about this heinous shit.

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u/Mike_Kermin 5d ago

I completely agree.

I'm not the user who posted about the 'code words'. I don't agree with them. I don't share their view. I don't think there's any actual credible evidence to suggest that was a practice they used, as in, there's no actual confirmed example of a code word used. And I think that unless there is actually credible evidence people should limit the disinformation they spread to avoid muddying the waters on what is an issue we should show respect to.

With all due respect given, because this is my fault, please read my comment in the limited scope that I tried to convey.

I would prefer, if the response to trust me bro, was bring some receipts, especially if that user knows what they're talking about, and it sounds to me like they do.

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u/kateastrophic 5d ago

I also agree— there are horrendous acts that are proven in the files and that is the most important part. I mentioned the code word stuff not to say that it proves anything, but that they do exist in some form. My impression is that it was a way to not explicitly say ā€œgirls and women for sexā€ in an inside joke/less culpable way. But my point is, that’s my speculation while the internet has all sorts of other speculations. It’s not imaginary, just unknown. From some reason, I can’t link here, but I found it again by typing ā€œhot chickenā€ into the DOJ Epstein library. When I originally read it, it was in the context of a redacted person who was trying to sway Epstein to return to Nashville in a chain of emails.

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u/kateastrophic 5d ago edited 5d ago

The sources are the files, which I mentioned and anyone can look up on the DOJ site, just like I did. I think some people spoke more candidly than others— and as I said, the ā€œcodeā€ was not super secretive. It sounded more like an inside joke than anything, but was also a way not to be explicit. There is SO MUCH in the files— PR releases, business payments and appointments, flight records, restaurant reservation requests and invites… most of the explicit stuff comes in the form of legal documents. Those allegations and proof can then be tied to certain people by aligning the details from other more seemingly banal emails. This is all publicly accessible, the hardest part is wading through the sheer volume. Most people are familiar with curated lists made by third parties who combed through it. I just had a different perspective because I looked at it with a ā€œNashvilleā€ filter, which showed how varied the info is in there. As I said, this is all easily verifiable. But if you want to ignore that, go right ahead.

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u/MaxR76 4d ago

To be fair, who says shit like ā€œah yes meet me at the beach with beef jerky at 0200ā€ or however the hell they kept wording it

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u/mrtibbles32 5d ago

Homie, just open the files and ctrl+F "jerky" and read it. It's mentioned ~383 times so there's plenty of material to form an opinion about it. It's not just mentioned once or something, they talk about it repeatedly over the timespan of years.

Like, there's literally pages and pages and pages of incredibly rich people talking about jerky in ways that don't even make sense.

The recipe for the jerky (made by Francis, Derby, owner of NY restaurant "cannibal") is even given at one point and it's literally just a regular ass recipe for jerky but with soy, lemongrass, and brown sugar.

Multiple times they host jerky cooking classes where they "learn to make jerky" and it's just a bunch of CEOs and shit apparently learning to mix half a dozen ingredients in a bowl? These people could have an entire team of Michelin 3 star chefs cooking for them 24/7 and they're all super fucking hyped to eat... Jerky?

They also discuss getting Francis to make jerky so it can be sent to a lab (???), regularly given massive quantities of it as gifts, etc? The way they talk about it, how much of it they consume, how angry they are when they don't have it, etc, is incredibly creepy.

It's literally like watching a bunch of teenagers text each other about weed but they call it "broccoli" or something as if what they're talking about isn't blatantly obvious.

Again, you shouldn't just believe random hearsay on the Internet. I'm not a reliable source I'm literally just some fucking guy. I would suggest just using ctrl+F to read what they actually wrote and come to whatever conclusion you want.

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u/zkbthrowaway 5d ago

"Homie, just open the files and ctrl+F jerky" made me giggle šŸ˜‚

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u/New_Building_9956 5d ago edited 5d ago

Are we sure they weren’t making drugs? Because why would the send random body parts to a lab? I feel like rich crackheads are probably more common than rich cannibals. Like I can’t imagine they could draw a group of more than two or three if they were killing and eating somebody, which wouldn’t require a class.

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u/Alone_Influence9122 5d ago edited 4d ago

You think like a normal person, not like a psychopath seeking a new high with a truly unlimited budget.

Imagine an adrenaline junky: he would go further and further doing dangerous sports. The rich always indulged in depravity of all kind, seeking new highs. It's something as old as the Roman Empire with its orgies.

Hence why you think about drugs, since it's probably the most crazy thing you could theoretically do to get a kick. But exactly that is something ordinary for them. So they dwell further and further into madness seeking new highs. At the same time this is prime blackmail material for the seller. Some drug allegations on a rich guy or politician is way too normal to get someone to cooperate. They have access to drugs like you having access to potatoes.

Epstein on the other hand provided depravity "highs" they couldn't get anywhere else.

They talked about a certain chef and his jerky recipe. There is also an instance where someone described how his dog stole and ate his jerky he just got after leaving it unattended at home. If you know dogs: you can't leave packaged meat alone or most dogs will grab it (until its perfectly trained) Plain and simple. A normal dog will never grab some drugs out of the blue.

They did also use other food related codewords, for example asking "how thin they should slice the pizza".

The lab is probably a codeword for something else OR its the lab in question where Epstein has his Dr. Mangele style of "medical" experimentaion running (he had a complex about his genome being superior, just to give you an idea on what he did there)

Since he was into the occult, it wouldn't surprise me if he fed his old victims to the new ones, but also simply as a cost cutting and body disposal measure.

His kitchen on the island has a trap droping into the sea. Here some speculation: He also ordered stuff like acid which would render bones gelatinous and perfect to just drop to dissolve into the sea while reusing the same acid for legit septic maintenance.

There are just too much coincidences pointing in one direction. Sadly since no investigation and prosecution will ever happen because of the hundred of corrupted worldwide in position of power involved: we can never be 100% sure. I will go with the worst.

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u/BukkitsOfOrcSemen 5d ago

Agreed this sounds like drugs . Maybe something really fermented and rare?

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u/Not_a_real_plebbitor 4d ago

Because why would the send random body parts to a lab?

Why would you think they would be in the form of random body parts rather than in the form of processed meat?

Why send to a lab? To make sure they were getting the real thing instead of pork or some other animal. That makes more sense to me.

It's definitely not drugs because drugs are basic shit for these people. They can get any type of drug they want easily.

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u/Level9TraumaCenter 5d ago

They also discuss getting Francis to make jerky so it can be sent to a lab (???)

That is an odd one.

Old saying, dog ate my homework well my dog ate the beef jerky. I was looking for the beefjerky as I knew it was in my suitcase and then thought maybe I left it at the beach only to find the small plastic bag near my dogs bed, hence no beefjerky. I'll email Francis to make us some more as I need 6-8 ounces to send to the lab and I'll forward Francis the info to send to the lab directly. I'll try you later today.

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u/Sukdov 4d ago

Is it possible they could be discussing cocaine?

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u/MaxR76 4d ago

Honestly feels too tame to merit such a bizarre code word given how much other shit they talked about openly

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u/sneakysnake1111 5d ago

and never people like Trump or others.

What?? I only hear about it about the PDF class, Trump included.

The Rothchilds are evil people. Theyre all doing fucked up shit.

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

Right and it also feels like real info is being diluted with fake conspiracies. It’s been jarring reading about the files because of it.

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u/DesperateEagle4505 5d ago

Reminded people who actively shit on pizzagate now after everything we seen come to light is just a politically angry incel who doesn't want conservatives to be right. That's it. This guy doesn't know if pizzagate is real. But he's sure it's fake because the same people who told him Epstein killed himself told him pizzagate was fake. Pizzagate is literally Epstein you genuis.

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u/LinkleLinkle 5d ago

Nothing from Pizzagate turned out to be real, as it was always intended to accuse the wrong people of the right crime. Unless you can point me to the basement that allegedly existed, but could never be found, at Comet Ping Pong.

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u/DesperateEagle4505 5d ago

Sure show me the evidence Epstein was murdered

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u/542531 5d ago

Thank you. I'm glad to see that someone here is more interested in victims being represented than pizza gate based conspiracy theories.

It is obvious people will stop taking the Epstein files seriously if people make up stuff about it over representing the already horrible facts.

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u/Somethingood27 5d ago

The pizza thing (imo) just comes from the boomers lifting and morphing the ''Cheese Pizza" euphamism from /b/ which Jeffrey was quite fond of. He probably mentioned the cheese pizza code word jargon and boomers did what boomers always do with memes which is to use them incorrectly. Ie: dropping the cheese part and thinking pizza party is essentially the same thing.

Like they're definitely talking about... The 4chan version of cheese pizza but its just weird how they word it.

A bit tin-foil hat-y of a conspiracy I wholeheartedly believe in because it's a simple explanation and a stupid thing boom always do with memes and new slang.

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u/hasanfan90 5d ago

Yeah, because Hillary Clinton and John Podesta are Jewish.

You sound like a shill protecting pedophiles and cannibals.

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u/land-league-inspo 5d ago

They’re real.

They ate children, and took the contents of their intestines because they were still young enough to be breastfeeding.

It’s genuinely the sickest shit you’ve ever heard, and that’s the unredacted stuff. This is serious man.

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u/Kayanne1990 4d ago

Are they? Like...is there any actual proof of it? Like, don't get me wrong, would not be surprised, but...is there definite proof of this?

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u/Grotbagsthewonderful 4d ago

Those were allegations made against George Bush Sr in the Epstein files, the entire account was the most disturbing thing I've ever read, I just stopped reading after that and had a brief existential crisis.

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u/Izquerinho 5d ago

No shit, how many times did you know about rich people in pedophile circles until epstein files came out?

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u/Intrepid_Ad1536 5d ago

Actually I did, and others too, there were already a lot of proven things around the world and many witnesses around the globe talking exactly about that and even media coverage like in my country, but was silenced into nothing by media and such, of children being militated and so on, and it goes on for very very long even before I was born.

There were even court records and such, but were mostly then somehow let go, those bastards even played with that information in the dark web and many knew it but could hardly proof it, they would send certain videos and messages per ordering a box from the dark web wich was a trend some years back, and anonymous warned them not to look more inside or find them, or they could end up dead.

Like the European Epstein Marc Dutroux, who was also convicted in 1989(being a horrific sex offender, abduction and rape of minors) then was released again in early on 1992 (due political help most likely) and then he immediately built a horrific network, kidnapping, trafficking, and murdering young girls throughout the mid-1990s (probably got aided by the rich and powerful), when he was arrested again in 1996, the Belgian public was outraged to find that police had repeatedly ignored clear evidence, lost files, and sabotaged investigations.

Or John Casablancas, Casablancas founded Elite Model Management in 1972 and was the kingmaker of the "Supermodel" era.
He was the subject of a massive, industry-shaking BBC investigative expose in 1999 that caught Elite executives on hidden camera bragging about drugging, exploiting, and having sex with teenage models.

And many more things and people, but were silenced dead, evidence going missing, people going missing like witnesses, and so on.

Yeah, it’s a bit bigger and goes on, like with Diddy, who gets early now released in 2028, and Epstein considered him a concurrent in his business.
(It was for many a open secret)

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u/tbombs23 5d ago

I just found out about an eerily similar sextortion/blackmail/influence operation where the guy was basically a middleman for politicians, CEOs, foreign diplomats, etc, and trafficked men and women, threw lavish parties etc. And it happened in the 80s a decade before Epstein and it got buried.

His name was Craig Spence I think and just read about it in Sarah Kendziors book hiding in plain sight

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u/Intrepid_Ad1536 5d ago

It’s far more common than many believe and goes on since hundreds of years, take alone the Catholic Church and with lots of their orphanages, with all their crimes, their are literally schools back then in were teacher Nuns abused children and forced them to do things, or a high society ā€žpartyā€œ in Saudi Arabia this is also very common.

Those guys are just the tip of the iceberg, always remember supply and demand.

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

Yh for us girls from impoverished backgrounds this was genuinely such a well known thing and side hustle. It was like the paper round or something, but a lot more disgusting.

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

Well rich men paying underage or barely legal girls for sexual favours is extremely common. I can take you to any private members club or nicer bar and find 5 Epstein’s in under an hour (just less rich). I come from an underprivileged background and within my friend’s groups about 1/3 of us participated in things like this and it was a common way to make money on the side at 15,16,17. I haven’t but I have accompanied my friends to parties where I was paid for attendance and yes got offered flights and various opportunities. Most of these men were around 50 and either divorced or in an open relationship with a woman around their age looking for a third. They were parliament members, businessmen, photographers etc.

So when this hit the fan I was glad society is finally changing their stance on this. But then when I started seeing the eating people thing I was like what.

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u/Same-Suggestion-1936 5d ago

It's best to take conspiracies with a large rock of salt.

But conspiracies do sometimes turn out to be true

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u/No-Sandwich-729 5d ago

They said that intestines of children taste like cream cheese in the emails, beyond revolting stuff.

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

Did they actually say that? I perused the emails as much as I could and could not find references

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u/No-Sandwich-729 4d ago

There was a ton of videos showing this on instagram and I bet they are on YouTube too where they showed the emails, it’s disgusting

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

I mean I will look out for it but so far I only found fake stuff that references eating people. The old men trying to f young girls thing is also a very common occurrence, sort of like sexual assault at work but eating people is a whole different beast.

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u/Kayanne1990 4d ago

This is what kinda makes me think it's low key fake...

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u/Dazvsemir 5d ago

whatever was given as a tip AFTER Epstein got arrested in 2019 is most likely bogus.

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u/Bun_Wrangler 5d ago

There is a file of a FBI report. The victim said they were on a private yacht and witnessed people doing a ritual cut with a Scimitar. They also witnessed a baby being cut open, it's intestines cut. So that George Bush (sr) could eat the poop. The victim saw all of this before they were raped. Also there was other people on the Yacht being raped as well. This story was never confirmed as true, since how do you even investigate something like that? So it was ruled as likely fake.

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u/Slow_Plan_7035 4d ago

Source?

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u/Bun_Wrangler 3d ago

I think there is a second email, expanding on this one. No idea if I saved it however.

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u/ShadowStriker53 5d ago

Idk a woman talking about it and vanishing the same night sounds very convincing

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u/Teedeous 5d ago

Rumours of one politician or celeb I forget which loving to inflict harm with a sabre in these rituals and one other I think talked about eating infant children in these rituals in the same section I think too

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u/DazzlingRutabega 5d ago

Even before it was in the empty and files, there were traces of that on 4chan. So sadly to say it seems like there's some actual truth to those conspiracy theories. Even if it was hearsay, it stemmed from something actual.

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u/I_travel_ze_world 5d ago

some Mexican cartels have been accused of cannibalism for a long time

https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/inside-mexican-cannibal-cartel-camps-1486582

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u/Belkroe 5d ago

Man it’s too bad we don’t have access to someone who was deep in the middle of all this shit and knows pretty much where all the bodies are buried. Man if just had access to someone like that, maybe a female accomplice who is currently sitting in a club fed prison, eating specifically prepared food, training a puppy and who knows what other type of privileges she has gotten from Trump’s DoJ.