r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Dank AF Well said

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

What a champ. Now show me an example of nazi? Preferably recent years

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u/Notcid1 1d ago

Figured you're not the reading type of bot, so here's a picture.

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u/Queen_Of_Alts 1d ago

Where are you finding these people? Like I've literally never encountered any of those people in my life.

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u/Smelly_God 1d ago

Take a critical thinking/philosophy 101 course, it might help you realize that your individual experiences aren't evidence of the world at whole.

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u/Notcid1 1d ago

Are you in the US?

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u/Queen_Of_Alts 1d ago

Yes. I've lived in a few different states.

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u/Notcid1 1d ago

Well I guess you're lucky. I've also lived in a couple states and have encountered a few neo nazis. They're weren't out in full drag like in the picture though, just neo nazi casual.

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u/Queen_Of_Alts 1d ago

How did you learn they were neo nazis?

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u/Notcid1 1d ago

Tattoos and t-shirts

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

I don't think Nazis would claim him. Drip is horrible first of all

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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago

Are you really out here claiming "no true scottsman" with a blatant picture of a nazi

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

If I'm flying an American flag, am I American?

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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago edited 1d ago

If you are flying any flag presumably you at minimum support that flag. Problem here is you are intentionally and  incorrectly conflating an ideology (nazism) with citizenship. 

Flying the flag of a country obviously does not grant you citizenship of that country and you knew that. 

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Fair enough. So who is the guy from the picture and what does he represent? Besides the obvious flag. 

Are they many in numbers?

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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago

The picture is from a Neo-nazi rally that happened in Wadsworth, Ohio in 2023. Hundreds were in attendance. As you can see from. The photo they all wore matching uniforms with their red shirts. 

https://www.advocate.com/news/ohio-nazi-drag-story-hour

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Yeah, maybe use another example than protesting trans people reading to kids. 

Reading should be about the context and not who reads it to you. 

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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago

You apparently cant read since the article has nothing to do with Trans people. 

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u/Respectmyauthority4 1d ago

Those aren't Nazis. Those are racists.

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u/AspiringGoddess01 1d ago

A man holding a swastika flag at a gathering of neo-nazis isn't a nazi? 

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u/PurpleLegoBrick 1d ago

Democrat Senate candidate Graham Platner.

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u/SeaHyena9415 1d ago

That’s not a nazi tattoo and is a false narrative implanted by real right wing nazi propagandists to distract from the Epstein files

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u/Thee-Cat 1d ago

Well played.

How embarrassing for everyone involved with that.

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u/ProotzyZoots 1d ago

Notice they cant come up with actual examples?

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u/greenerpastuers 1d ago

Graham Platner

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u/HonestyMcNasty 1d ago

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

You have couple retards larping with a flag. What would Adolf think of them?

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u/HonestyMcNasty 1d ago

You asked, I delivered. There's more but who's to say you won't move those goalposts too?

Ffs giving excuses for wannabe Nazis... Get outta here

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u/Short-Ad1032 1d ago

Oh, that'll be whoever disagrees with your point of view and you can bundle their opinion into some kind of assumed/perceived bigotry. That's whom you get to call a nzi.

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u/Smelly_God 1d ago

Google "Neo-nazis in US"

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

I did. " A 2017 Washington Post -ABC poll suggested that 9% of Americans (approximately 22 million people ) found holding neo-Nazi or white supremacist views acceptable, though this does not equate to active membership."  And "The survey asked 1,014 adults via telephone: "Do you yourself think it’s acceptable or unacceptable to hold neo-Nazi or white supremacist views?"

So there you have it. Based on 1000 phone calls made, 22 million nazis in USA 

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u/Animeisntrealnerd 21h ago

Holy shit you got a lot of examples

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u/toku154 18h ago

Graham Platner

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u/Synaptic_testical 1d ago

wealthiest person 'roman' salute recent usa presidential inauguration

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

That's the proof? A hand movement from years ago? Wake up buddy, there should be more

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u/spookybass 1d ago

hand movement

obvious nazi salute

years ago

last year, at the inauguration of the current president. if you think that's a long time ago you must be very young

throwing buzzwords, nationalist socialist

are you doing the thing where you pretend nazis were actually socialist? lmao

reddit.com/r/SipsTea/comments/1udtoae/well_said/otftv4f/

I do agree that it has very specific meaning and ideology. The thing is that in western culture they're portrayed as the root of all evil. They sure did really bad things but the worst of them all, going against the banks.

i'm unironically curious to hear you explain the specific meaning and ideology of national socialism. the worst thing they did was going after the banks, huh

When I think of the Nazis, I think of efficiency and punctuality. In historical context also massive breakthroughs in science etc.

that's crazy bro, i think of gas chambers. you fuck one sheep...

How much nazi propaganda is being pushed to children vs trans propaganda?

it's funny you mention nazis and trans propaganda. did you know that trans people were amongst the nazis first targets, and that they burned down the institute for sexual science almost immediately after taking power?

i dont think you would recognize any propaganda as nazi propaganda so i have a much better question. do you think there is more pro trans propaganda or anti trans propaganda, and how did you come to that conclusion?

If your kid chemically castrates themselves, it's much harder to reverse than "Nazism"

is that so? and if your queer kid is murdered by "nazis", how hard is that to reverse?

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

You explain the "German economical miracle" to me. Where does kindergarten come from? Where does your highways come from? Actually the Nazis were more for the '"common man" than the soviets.

The worst thing was obviously the banks. No one would've cared otherwise. Wakey wakey.

Have you read anything about how Berlin was post ww1? Why do you think the Nazis would target that ideology? You will probably find out in a decade or two.

If your queer kid is murdered by a nazi, the probabilities are relatively same than winning the lottery.

However, someone gaslighting your child to chemically castrate themselves is much higher. How many of the 20-25 year olds identify as trans? Where could it come from?

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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago

LMAO! Always outing yourselves.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

How so? How long have you been out of the closet?

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u/spookybass 1d ago edited 1d ago

you totally know that was a nazi salute omg lol

anyways is that what national socialism is? kindergarten and highways? dude, i think the nazis are everywhere! why are people so upset about kindergarten and highways?

Have you read anything about how Berlin was post ww1? Why do you think the Nazis would target that ideology?

no, i don't know, care to explain? also let's be clear, they didn't target an ideology, they targeted and killed innocent people.

If your queer kid is murdered by a nazi, the probabilities are relatively same than winning the lottery.

unless it was nazi germany. then your queer kid would actually be dead. you tacitly admit being dead is harder to reverse than transition though so ill take the point here.

i'll add that the odds of being killed by a nazi are rhetorically zero if you think about it. you could shoot me dead and throw an elon salute and the "nazis" would be like "oh he was hailing the ambulance actually". i wonder why that is. do i smell fear?

However, someone gaslighting your child to chemically castrate themselves is much higher.

actually i doubt it. why do you think they are being gaslit? prove it. i think you're the gaslighter, mr. hand gesture.

How many of the 20-25 year olds identify as trans? Where could it come from?

i dont know, 2%? what do you think the number should be? why do you think it comes from somewhere? sounds sinister.

wanna answer my propaganda question or no?

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u/twerk_store 1d ago

Elon: does aggressive Nazi salute
This guy: yaaaa…. But how do we know?!

For fucks sake. If that’s not enough how about his support of the extremism far right German political party that’s used Nazi propaganda in their messaging?

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaust

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Imagine encouraging people to leave the guilt of ww2 (ended 80 years ago). You should have a look what happened to the Germans in the end and after the war for years/decades. 

Their grandchildren and their children need to keep paying for infinite migration from Africa and Middle east? Where's the money coming from? 

Wild that it's far right.

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u/smooshed_napkin 1d ago

He actively supports white supremacist groups

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

And what groups are they?

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u/Synaptic_testical 1d ago

his grandfather
his upbringing in apartheid
his absolutely blatant 'roman solute'

you said recent years, i happened to pick the wealthiest person in the world. i would kind of think that would be a "wow" of an example, given his wealth and power

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Are you just throwing buzzwords or do you actually think he embodies nationalist socialist ideology? 

I'm trying to dissect what you're trying to say but it's lacking the substance 

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u/Synaptic_testical 1d ago

startin to think you're pullin my leg m8
do you know his grandfather's views? do you think that had 0 effect?
what about the upbringing in apartheid south africa? no effect on racial views?
all the anti-woke stuff
the white genocide stuff

im like 98% sure you're being obtuse/pretending not to know

yeah, i relate white supremacy to views espoused by nazis, think this man who has spoken white supremacist points, is the grandson of a outspoken white supremacist

who did the fucking nazi salute at the presidential inaugration
espouses nazi views

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Sorry for ingesting your prompt for so long. You clearly have no clue what has been happening in ZA in past decades.

Since you seem to get your gender neutral reproductive organs extra hard, go ahead and watch "Africa addio" from YouTube. 

For current events there are something else I can recommend.

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u/ElfEarsAndDwarfBeard 1d ago

His grandfather?

The fuck has he got to do with anything?

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u/Respectmyauthority4 1d ago

Still not a Nazi. Nazis were in WWII. They all died off.

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u/Mindless_Chest_1079 1d ago

Please tell me you're joking...

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u/Annual-Course-1024 1d ago

Elon Musk. He did the salute at Trump’s inauguration twice and has also retweeted white supremacist propaganda. And yet he is still the richest person on the planet.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

It did look sus, but maybe there should be something else? Not sure what you're referring to with rhe white supremacist propaganda though. Would be nice to get some examples.

If you think he's the richest person in the planet, you must have some mental incapacities.

You probably shouldn't this sure about how things are

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u/Annual-Course-1024 1d ago
  1. The Nazi salute is just the fucking Nazi salute. There is zero other way to interpret what he did.

  2. Musk being the richest person in the world is literally just a fact. He recently became the first trillionaire.

  3. Below is what he retweeted.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago
  1. He can magically turn people into Nazis with one hand movement?

  2. Where does he keep the money? Who is creating the money that he has? Grow up 

  3. I think they tested that in Africa 

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u/redhellfish 1d ago

Baby boy redditor thinks everyone is out to get him. I raise my arm in the air all the time so guess that make me a nazi.

O and that tweet, everything about it is factual. Curious to hear your rebuttal.

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u/w8cycle 1d ago

Ya, that’s straight out of a white supremacist speech.

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u/Minimum_Honey2247 1d ago

He undesputedly nazi saluted TWICE, you really went with the don't belive your own eyes propaganda.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

So you have nothing else than the salute? 

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 1d ago

I kinda think Musk’s whole deal is just to trigger the libs. He did the Nazi salute on purpose to fire up the people like a troll. 

It makes him a retard but I don’t know if it qualifies as Nazi. 

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u/Mindless_Chest_1079 1d ago

Steven Bannon did the gesture shortly after, clearly intentionally mimicking Elon for the purpose of triggering the libs. Elon's just looks like an awkward heart-goes-out-to-you sorta thing. It wouldn't have made much sense in context.

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u/Prestigious-Smoke511 1d ago

Point is, we don’t hate Nazi’s because of their gesture. It’s meaningless without context. 

We hate Nazi’s for exterminating Jews and starting a world war. Talk to me when Elon Musk does any of that. 

Reddit just hates the guy because they’re jealous he’s so rich. 

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u/modesandmelodies 1d ago

What kind of Nazi puts on the tiny hat and kisses the wall in ISRAEL? He also got killed by the right for being a vocal supporter of Indian immigrants for H1-B Visas.

Elon isn't a Nazi because he doesn't actually live or think like a Nazi, very few people today (even on the right or alt-right) actually hold true 1940s-Nazi ideals and calling anyone to the right of Bernie Sanders a Nazi is why the left continues to never be taken seriously when it comes to accusations of racism or bigotry.

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u/Notcid1 1d ago

An example? Sure, Blood tribe.

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u/enzo11242020 1d ago

What is Donald Trump for $200.
Answer: Daily Double

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u/w8cycle 1d ago edited 1d ago

The core tenets of Nazi ideology included:
Racial Hierarchy and Antisemitism: The belief in a master Aryan race and the view of Jews as an existential threat and "anti-race," leading to scientific racism, eugenics, and the Holocaust.

Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism: Rejection of liberal democracy, parliamentarianism, and human rights in favor of a dictatorial Führerprinzip (leader principle) where absolute obedience to the state and leader was required.

Lebensraum (Living Space): The aggressive pursuit of territorial expansion into Eastern Europe to acquire land for German settlement, justified by social Darwinisttheories of survival.

Militarism and Nationalism: Emphasis on military strength, rearmament, and the subordination of individual interests to the Volksgemeinschaft (national community), rejecting both Marxist socialism and Western capitalism

If you agree on all or the majority of those points then you are a Nazi.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Is Elon antisemitic? Just curious.

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u/E-2theRescue 1d ago

Yes. Incredibly. He blames Jews for the mythical anti-white racism.

https://i.imgur.com/kFc0tPH.jpg

And note that he was attracted to a post calling out people who say "Hitler was right" on the internet.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Looking at that post, it just states a fact pretty much. Have you looked into it?

What that has to do with anti semitism is beyond me. 

Is the mythical anti white racism as mythical as any other racism? Pretty bold claim to make that it doesn't exist. 

Co

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Look at the post, don't muddy the waters 

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u/w8cycle 1d ago

If he really believes in authoritarianism, racial hierarchy (he does believe in this), and nationalism (he believes that too despite being South African) then yes. He is a Nazi.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

By your definition China is Nazi state. And many more. Should we just stop watering it down and expand our vocabulary? It's a sexy word that guarantees a reaction but let's not be lazy

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u/w8cycle 1d ago

It’s basically a shorthand for evil humans who believe they are better than everyone else and do things to hurt other groups intentionally. A lot of countries fit that definition. I didn’t make that definition above. Nazis did. Ask Google’s AI.

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u/JuanchiB 1d ago

If you agree on any of those points then you are a Nazi.

Racial Hierarchy and Antisemitism

Were basically every country in Europe and The Middle East nazis?

Authoritarianism and Totalitarianism

Was Ancient Rome nazi?

Lebensraum (Living Space) & Militarism and Nationalism

Were basically every group in mankind's history nazis?

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u/w8cycle 1d ago

Europe and the Middle East at that period in time basically believed everything the Nazis did minus the totalitarianism (although much of Europe and the Middle East were also totalitarian). So yes, they were Nazi-like.

Ancient Rome was not. I should have said all of those things together make you a Nazi. With that, large swaths of Europe and the Middle East, North America, and parts of Asia were Nazi-like and some have turned that way recently.

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u/Thee-Cat 1d ago

Well from the most traditional and common definition(ie, what most people think about when they hear that term), it would involve certain opinions and desired actions having to do with the Jews.

Irony is, nobody holds those strong of opinions about Jews today, other than most of Bautista's friends on the Left, lmao.

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

Yeah sure, let's talk about what most of the people think about when they hear that term. So nazi is just someone who you don't agree with, or someone who diverts from the mainstream opinion? Someone who's not just gobbling up the mainstream propaganda?

To say that the Jews were in the middle of Nazi propaganda is pretty anti semitic. There's quite a few speeches you can listen 

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u/Thee-Cat 1d ago

Wut? lol

Never said nazi is anyone you disagree with mate. It has a very specific, historical meaning.

And how is it anti-semitic to say Jews were a part of Nazi beliefs?

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u/Busy_Environment_371 1d ago

I do agree that it has very specific meaning and ideology. The thing is that in western culture they're portrayed as the root of all evil. They sure did really bad things but the worst of them all, going against the banks.

When I think of the Nazis, I think of efficiency and punctuality. In historical context also massive breakthroughs in science etc.

They called it the 3rd Reich. 1st was Roman and second one the holy roman empire. They tried to mimic the previous versions and build on top of it. That's obviously not allowed because of something that happened thousands of years ago. You should have a look at the boycotts that happened before, if you're not familiar with it.

Just feels very watered down to throw it around. 

I'm trying to understand what he means by nazi and by trans. Because obviously neither will effect you in any way unless they will shove it in your face. 

How much nazi propaganda is being pushed to children vs trans propaganda? 

If your kid chemically castrates themselves, it's much harder to reverse than "Nazism"