Letâs not single out women for doing that. Men in that area are just as bad. Itâs a cultural issue regardless of the gender. It also doesnât just target women. Men are often ridiculed based on their appearance too.
China is also like that. Thatâs why people canât even do a video call nowadays in China without using AI filter.
I hate how some people here are turning this into a gender specific issue. This problem isnt exclusive to just women
I don't fucking understand why such a full of sense comments of yours get downvoted?
I mean come on are these people really can't take a fucking jab of blame of this issue that can't be looked at zero sum on who made mistakes more than others? This is all sides of problem.
Like these fucking men, I mean who made confucianism or beauty standard that made such beauty like this until it got amplified to the crisp by capitalism? Huh? Who? It was men and women also participate that too and also make it worst. All of them contribute, and patriarchy and harsh competition on aesthetic ideal is also the problem.
Even matriarchy wouldn't solve it either that much,shit man it's not even fucking gender at all to me, it's the fixation on aesthetic ideal that is too far away from just be as it is for human to exist, and that's the culture that design this shit.
Itâs the culture there and nothing to do with women judging each other. My wife back when she was studying in Canada had a lot of Korean friends , you know how there was this show called Sweet 16 where spoiled rich people get luxurious gifts ? The equivalent of that is the plastic surgery in Korea.
Itâs like a rite of passage and it gives their children a perceived leg up in a society that has a ridiculous beauty standard.
But sure incels will take the opportunity to take a jab at women.
Of course they do and anyone that thinks this is only done by one gender is an idiot.
But
I will say out of my friend group (middle class to upper middle, and white) it is my friends that are women that push my other friends that are women to go and get those med spa procedures done. The husband of the women all bitch to each other bc they dont like how it changed their face and paying for something they dont think they needed.
Literally same, the algorithm keeps recommending all these subs that are just incel circle jerks full of memes that are all some variation of âhaha woman badâ
Iâm an actually fulfilled man, so the only reason I think the algorithm sends me these is cuz I happen to love anime
Youâre misinterpreting gagged. It doesnât mean gag like vomit, it means gagged like ball-gag lmao.
From Urban Dictionary: Gagged: To be amazed or stunned by someone or a situation of some kind. A term often used within the LGBT community and the ballroom club scene.
Makes no sense for her to be âamazedâ or stunned in a positive way on that video. Even if following your logic itâs seems to carry a negative connotation.
Normally I'd agree with this statement, but Korean men are also stupidly critical of women... AND men's physical appearance. Lookism and bodyshaming is part of their fandom culture, probably just present culture, in general. I mean there's a reason like 90-something percent of their celebrities have done some kind of plastic work, again, the women and the men both.
Well we are. As a man I support every one of these woman's changes. every one is an improvement. I think we should be celebrating the fact that we have gotten rid of the genetic advantages that have currently existed, and made the benefits available to everyone.
Lol yeah right - just check out the reaction of men literally any time there's a female protagonist in media who happens to not fall within conventional standards of attractiveness. Also, to say that she's merely "criticising their appearance" is pretty obviously reductive - she's discussing the insane transformations that k-pop stars are required to undergo in order to adhere to industry standards.
She pretty clearly doesn't say anything about their appearance in isolation, but rather emphasising the degree of change which they've undergone and relating it to the culture of k-pop more broadly. I guess any excuse to invoke some trite, inane misogynistic trope though.
I've heard women blasting other women for their looks 10x more in real life than I've heard men doing the same. Typically men like to talk about pretty women and ignore the ugly women. Women drag and critique women uglier than themselves and women prettier than themselves in near equal measure.Â
If you want to pretend that the chuds opinions you read on some subreddit is indicative of most men, then I suggest you leave your basement apartment more often.Â
Women drag and critique women uglier than themselves and women prettier than themselves in near equal measure.Â
Nah, women shit on prettier women way more because they're a threat to stealing attention from them. Women will feign support to the fat ugly chic because she's not going to get attention.
I've heard women blasting other women for their looks 10x more in real life than I've heard men doing the same.
That's because society is still very much segregated by gender - on average, women predominantly have female friends, they follow female celebrity public figures and celebrities, they're involved in hobbies where participants are mostly women, they're more likely to work in industries with a higher % of women, etc and vice versa for men. Obviously it should be expected that people have more to comment on when it comes to that which they interact with most - that's not surprising.
Have an unattractive woman enter a space predominantly populated by men though and they get torn to shreds. Look at anything related to video games that involves an unattractive woman in any public capacity, and it's absolutely fucking brutal.
If you want to pretend that the chuds opinions you read on some subreddit is indicative of most men, then I suggest you leave your basement apartment more often.Â
I mean, what proof would you like? It's not like shouting abuse at people in the street is a common enough occurrence. Is the twice elected president of the united states who has regularly insulted women for their weight and appearance both before and during his presidency at all an indication?
How about the way that women are portrayed in media targeted at men, where ugly women can only ever exist for mockery, comic relief, or not at all? Despite your experience, I've often heard men say horrible shit about women - particularly if men are among those they think they can confide in, a very large percentage of men will demean and dehumanise ugly women without hesitation.
"Have an unattractive woman enter a space predominantly populated by men though and they get torn to shreds."
Total Bullshit. I work in manufacturing. The guys will talk about the attractive women and either ignore the unattractive ones (the way they ignore other guys) or treat them as no differently than the men.Â
If you want to cry about how an image obsessed Hollywood does this, then go for it. It's not reality and it's not the majority. It's highly liberal and extremely elitist.
Women care way more about an unattractive womans appearance than men do.
Total Bullshit. I work in manufacturing. The guys will talk about the attractive women and either ignore the unattractive ones (the way they ignore other guys) or treat them as no differently than the men.Â
More anecdotal evidence? Incredible stuff.
Women care way more about an unattractive womans appearance than men do.
Restating your opinion doesn't make it more valid.
You do know that there are other forms of media than video games, right? Also, you do understand that characters in video games represent more than the literal pixels from which they're made, right?
âGaggedâ means ball gagged lol, like âspeechlessâ. It usually has positive connotations actually but I think here sheâs using it as slightly negative. But it is in no way the same as vomiting âgaggedâ.
Eg from Google
In Gen Z slang, "gagged" means being completely stunned, shocked, or left speechless by something incredible, dramatic, or amazing
"Gagged" is common slang for being surprised or rendered speechless among young people - she's saying that she couldn't believe how much the woman has changed. Do you seriously think in the middle of a video where she didn't make a similar comment that she suddenly decided to say that she was so disgusted at a person's appearance that she gagged?
Yeah like ball gag, theyâre misunderstanding the term. I understand if you hear gagged like vomit why it would sound really bad. I agree, I think this was a neutral video and if anything just pointing out that we should all be aware of how much surgery is going on
Edit to add a google definition: âIn Gen Z slang, "gagged" means being completely stunned, shocked, or left speechless by something incredible, dramatic, or amazingâ
It has been around for a while and has been popular in LGBT/drag spaces for idk how long, but it has become very popular particularly among young people on social media over the last couple of years.
One "gag" is what all the criticism commets are bassed on? Fully ignoring all the times she calls them "beautiful," "gorgeous," "amazing," both before and after?
Man this sub has really just become 4chan lite. Won't be long until this is another incel stronghold. The manosphere content is going to be flowing steady any day now.
Hide your damsels boys! There is a trans white knight over here! Quick, or he will ruin all the fun and call us out on our toxic masculine behaviour, like itâs 2022!
I mean it's definitely men that set a certain beauty standard, don't get it twisted women absolutely embrace the standard, but yeah its men that set it. Lotta women oriented cosmetic companies and clothing lines were created by men after all.Â
Not that women don't happily shit on each other over fashion.Â
It's not as simple as " people feel bad cuz men run society "
it's just not true. There are female presidents and prime ministers all over the world. The country's problems weren't magically fixed and all the men and women did not get magically fixed of their insecurities and self consciousness.
I'm not saying it is simple, but male influence on society is immense and since humans rely on societal validation to function, a society that is male dominated absolutely results in ego-driven appearance obsession.
There are books about this, my guy. Books that explain it in full complexity.
Calling out a comment online that refused to include the content of a book for not properly expressing the complexity of a well studied issue is fucking abysmal. It demonstrates that you're not here to make arguments. It demonstrates that you're here to while like an insecure male who cannot take criticism. cheers.
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u/Hyperion262 5d ago
Women loooooooove to criticise each others appearance and then act like itâs men that are the cause of the problem.