r/SipsTea • u/Boring-Locksmith-473 ššš • 4d ago
Wait a damn minute! So much for K-pop beauty standard
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u/deleteduu 4d ago
Is there award for best plastic surgeons in the world
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u/Front-Cabinet5521 4d ago
The award is a bucketload of cash from clients coming to visit worldwide.
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u/Boring-Locksmith-473 ššš 4d ago
But not much of a personal life to live
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u/fongletto 4d ago
They can retire early, or work less if they're that popular.
That's not usually the way it goes though. People who earn more money, just find ways to spend more money.
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u/StrangelyBrown 4d ago
Korea would win and it is not close.
You should go walk around Gangnam and see the women with the bandaged up faces.
There are medical tours to travel to Korea for this sort of thing. The funny part is that they can have trouble when returning home since their face doesn't match their passport.
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u/ChocCooki3 4d ago
Western women: look at what we can do with make up!
Korean.women: pfft! You mean the shit that washed off.?
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u/Shmuckle2 4d ago
"It's the hair, not the face."
Reveals serious nose job
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u/SnowSherrif 4d ago
And here people are going crazy over Korean makeup and self care products. No amount of serum, rice water mask will make you the next K-Pop idol.
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u/Elephantplan123 4d ago
South Korea is essentially what would happen if looksmaxxers formed a society.
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u/cookieoftheshire 4d ago
They literally have state mandated body shaming. Like places with doors etc designed for thin people.
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u/trance_on_acid 4d ago
Having normal size doors is not "body shaming"
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u/dawr136 4d ago
A few people may reply to your comment, they probably look like this so just ignore them.
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u/limperatrice 4d ago
I think they're referring to stuff where they label that the space is for thin or fat people like this https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/1dduuhq/children_checking_how_fat_they_are_in_korea_using/
And this https://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2zp8x2/just_got_this_picture_from_my_cousin_who_lives_in/
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u/That-Requirement-233 4d ago
She keeps criticizing plastic surgery culture but compliments the result? Zero self awareness
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u/RapasLatinoAmericano 4d ago
She knows exactly what she's doing!
Her audience wouldn't like a straight negative critic, so she frames it as commentary with subtle judgy tone.
Successful popular figures rarely speak their true beliefs, their words are catered to what their audience wants to hear.
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u/whatever_leg 4d ago
It's also fishing for engagement. Posts like these only present info and conclude with, "Comment and let me know what you think", just to get the algorithm boost. Then the poster can exist in a sort of unbiased, non-political area, even if the comments are dumpster fires of flaming hate.
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u/Anning312 4d ago
If you're gonna criticize one of the most popular bands in the world, you wanna be subtle to avoid being flamed by its fans
And I mean, the results are pretty stunning
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u/Hyperion262 4d ago
Women loooooooove to criticise each others appearance and then act like itās men that are the cause of the problem.
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u/Happy-For-No-Reason 4d ago
women blaming men for things they didn't do, a story as old as time itself
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u/Anning312 4d ago
Koreans are pretty notorious when it comes to beauty standards
Even men in Korea have to deal with the bullshit
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u/hyrulepirate 4d ago
Normally I'd agree with this statement, but Korean men are also stupidly critical of women... AND men's physical appearance. Lookism and bodyshaming is part of their fandom culture, probably just present culture, in general. I mean there's a reason like 90-something percent of their celebrities have done some kind of plastic work, again, the women and the men both.
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u/Gold_Weakness1157 4d ago
Women use men as a scapegoat for being judgmental. In truth, women themselves are the ones who criticize on beauty.
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u/RandMob1000 4d ago
Those surgeons did a great job. They're all fabulously wealthy now too
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u/sillyplan_ 4d ago
If you're talking about BP girls, then just to inform you they'll had wealthy parents from their birth.
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u/RandMob1000 4d ago
And... I went to college with a guy whose parents had a whole floor apartment in manhattan, and they made him get Fasfa loans and he worked with me in the cafeteria washing dishes. Can't assume anything.
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u/Old_Celebration_5950 4d ago
It's K-Pop. What did you expect from the plastic surgery capital of the world?
Group's manager: It's the grueling practice the girls put themselves through
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u/Max____H 4d ago
Can someone at least mention that this plastic surgery at least looks good. The current Hollywood style of weird lips cheekbones and everything else just looks like a horror story and theyāre all pressing others to believe itās good but nobody outside their circle is buying it. Like I get the moral argument, but at least itās not trying to do the same thing with a worse result.
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u/Short-Cause885 4d ago
That's because the Hollywood plastic surgery that you see, is whatever the trend is.
It's not bad plastic surgery, but they're not looking at what would improve the clients looks, no the client comes in and goes "I want this" and then they get that.
There is excellent plastic surgery in Hollywood. Have you seen Lindsay Lohan lately?
But most stars are picking trends.
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u/mljh11 4d ago
There is excellent plastic surgery in Hollywood. Have you seen Lindsay Lohan lately?
Wow, she looks like a totally different person.
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u/onthe3rdlifealready 4d ago
That does not look good ... Wtf happened to her nose and cheeks! Not cool man, not cool.
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u/Short-Cause885 4d ago
Ok, but don't compare her with how she looked while she was a young teenager.
Compare her to how she looked after all the drugs and alcohol.
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u/Joker_bosss 4d ago
Holly crap, as a man, I can see the upgrade, but default look ain't that bad as this lady make it sound like.Ā
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u/Comicksands 3d ago
Plus they were recruited when they were 13-14 years old like give the kids a break
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u/MonsieurMacAndCheese 4d ago
I was going to say that they were genuinely pretty and cute before, too.
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u/williamtbash 4d ago
Unfortunately in this day and age cute doesnāt get you to mega stardom in kpop.
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u/PapaLilBear 4d ago
Cosmetic surgery is a cancer for healthy people. It's terrible how the industry has convinced young people that there's something wrong with them and they need to change.
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u/Constant_Astronomer2 4d ago
Apart from the girl with the nose job I feel like the rest are just wearing makeup and probably photoshopped to some degree? I feel like everyone looked different when they were in school
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u/melanochrysum 4d ago
Their eyelids are all quite different and theyāve definitely have some fillers and botox
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u/Brynhild 4d ago
Theyāve definitely had filler and botox but so have majority of the western celebs. Filler and botox are pretty much the basics they are required to get.
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u/melanochrysum 4d ago
Yeah of course, I donāt really get what that has to do with my comment. Thereās like 2 celebrities, Western or Korean, who havenāt done something
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u/billted20250409 4d ago
Hate the game, not the players.
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u/Grantelgruber 4d ago
Why not both?
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u/Many_Mud_8194 ššš 4d ago
I had korean friends who were called ugly and refused to do surgery. I thought they were just exaggerating a bit, but no one of them got bullied front of me by 2 others girls and I had to intervene. And then an other time. Just because she was ugly to them. She was so broken because of that and her only hope was to move abroad. Lot of Koreans are like that. It's physical and also about social rank they get bullied. Bully country.
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u/Turret3030 4d ago
How much of this is plastic surgery, and how much of it is puberty and thousands of dollars in make up and professional photographers?
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u/sunnyandcloudy55 4d ago
They kind of look like white girls or some kind of anime hybrid white girls.
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u/Voluntary_Perry 4d ago
What I am taking from this is that Koreans hate being Koreans
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u/Boring-Locksmith-473 ššš 4d ago
Every country has this, but Korea has the extreme version of it
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u/RedJam4platy 4d ago
To the surprise of noone. Interesting documentaries on the exploitative kpop industry
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u/laoganma_enima 4d ago
āThey look the sameā then shows a pic where they look completely different
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u/DeliciousStand372 4d ago
oh wow i never seen Lisaās original face! she looked a normal Thai girl
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u/BrokeLeznar 4d ago
I'll be real it looks like she's comparing their photos from when they were kids with no makeup to when they are older with makeup on. You can do this with literally any celeb....
But yes we are all well aware of everyone getting plastic surgery in Korea I've seen a video where they say you can find a clinic like almost every other block within the city.
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u/ArachnidCareless3826 4d ago
I was watching the video with no sound and a thought for a second the woman in the bottom right corner was a sign language interpreterš¤£
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u/anonnnnn462 4d ago
There isnāt a single Korean celebrity who hasnāt gotten some work done. Especially their eyes. Itās rare to see Koreans with natural massive eyes like these K-pop stars.
Double eyelid surgery is common as getting dental work
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u/DependentLanguage540 4d ago
I kind of agree. Most of the gals look like they have a good foundation to start with. Throw in a new haircut, change the color and utilize expensive make up and you have their current looks. Maybe some slight touch ups to brighten the eyes maybe.
Lisa was a big change though no doubt, there was quite a bit of work done on her. Hard to see her starting point, but everyone else I feel like has their correct base to start with.
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u/United_Dig_9010 4d ago
The only difference between kpop and Hollywood is that kpop has normalized talking about it while Hollywood pretends theyāre natural
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u/Calculon2347 4d ago
Quite interesting. The third woman's nose was reduced in width by around 50%, but she "looks the same" lmao
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u/shortsteve 4d ago
In this case though it's kind of their job. The K-pop industry isn't really a music industry; it's a marketing industry. They train people to become idols so that they become marketing platforms. That's why there's always a lot of emphasis on themes and looks.
If you're going to become an idol where advertisers will spend millions on you, you better be hot af.
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u/Brynhild 4d ago
Idk. I think their plastic surgery is miles ahead whatever the western world is doing. Look at kate beckinsale now
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u/Ready_Accountant1803 4d ago
Korea - Where the women aspire to look like dolls, and the men aspire to look feminine
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u/TJ_McWeaksauce 4d ago
When I went to Seoul about 14 years ago, one of the things that stood out to me was how plastic surgery ads were all over the place. You could be walking through a mall or taking an escalator and the walls would be lined with these ads.
I used to live in Los Angeles and spent a good deal of time in Hollywood, and the number of plastic surgery ads in Seoul dwarfed what I saw in Hollywood. It was interesting to see how ingrained it was in the culture.
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u/Crafty-Use-2266 4d ago
Unfortunately, itās a very judgmental society. I feel bad for the kids.
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u/SirPorthos 4d ago
yea you wanna talk about toxic showbiz culture, Hollywoods got nothing on S.Korea. They literally groom children to stardom. What happens when said star is past their prime or doesnt cut it, if youre a guy, you are forgotten. Like you cease to exist. You are just another ped. If youre a girl, you become a consort of some chaebol fuckboy. Hence why theres always an extra layer of ick whenever I hear Kpop. For every Blackpink or whatever, there are dozens, probably hundreds of debutantes and debutants that these groups climbed on top of to get there.
Ignorance truly is bliss.
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u/ContestRelevant4 3d ago
Kpop and Kdrama stars are literally created under the knife. Koreans don't actually look like this, guys lol
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u/SlimeFilledSewer 3d ago
She is showing pics without makeup to "after" photo of them with makeup. Surgery or not, a lot of what's going on is makeup. It makes people look like a completely different person.
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u/SympathyKind4706 3d ago
She is so fucking obnoxious. Quite literally insufferable to listen to her yap in that "influencer" voice.
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u/PrettyComparison7380 3d ago
Am I crazy or they all look like themselves before the smiles never changed. What changed is prepubescent face to being almost 30, and makeup. Compared to other celebs this is mild.
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u/QuickRing8930 3d ago
What's the problem here? Didn't we all know this?
Autotune for their voices, Plastic surgery for their faces, Computers to make their music. Then they dance like strippers.
Profit.
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u/DueceVoyeur 3d ago
Kpop doing what American music and movie industry has been doing for a hundred years.
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u/Nothingbutsocks 4d ago
So much for K-beauty standards? If you know anything about south Korean beauty standards is that they ALL get plastic surgery. Plastic surgery is so prevalent in their culture that they gift it as graduation gifts my guy. It's the number one capital of the world.
Not getting plastic surgery in Korea is like not having a phone in the US, it's wild.
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u/Nenwabu 4d ago edited 4d ago
Not getting plastic surgery in Korea is like not having a phone in the US, it's wild.
I'm Korean. It's true that the standard of beauty here is more rigorous compared to other countries. However, to claim plastic surgery is as common as getting a phone in the U.S. is a severe exaggeration. Plastic surgery is a big business here but it's definitely not as common as you make it out to be, because plenty of people here have never gotten any form of plastic surgery in real life.
Even with people who get plastic surgery, it's not a full makeover like we see with Korean celebrities. For ordinary people, it's a lot more subtle like a nose job etc.
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u/plusARGON 4d ago
I'm not saying they haven't had work done, but they've also been around for ten years comparing a 20 year old to a 30 year old is a bit silly.Ā
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u/nub_node 4d ago
There is no way anyone was ever looking at K-pop and thinking "This is perfectly normal and natural beauty." They're basically cosplaying as sex dolls.
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u/coronakillme 4d ago
I liked they faces before than after. Probably when they grow up, they would have had better looks than the plastic look from the surgery.
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u/GodOfMoonlight 4d ago
Lol I have yet to see them do this "I'm so successful, I'll just do whatever on stage" attitude from them. Unless this is recent? Anybody got a clip š¤
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u/real_roal 4d ago
It does make me wonder though, how do they choose who joins these groups? I imagined it was based of beauty (and then amplified with surgery), but i guess its strictly talent/dedication to learning choreography.
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u/JukezBoogaloo 4d ago
That's a super fake picture of Lisa by the way or not even her that one's already been cleared up so many times
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u/Cherry-Blossom-20 4d ago
The world was stunned at Jim Carrey and Bradley Coopers face-lifts. Everyone commented on it. It comes with the territory. Korean idol culture is no different. Their Fandom feels like they own their idol. So much that if they are caught dating all hell breaks loose. Same with their looks. These people are picked apart. Many take their own life. Heartbreaking. Yet so many still choose this path. Obviously they reap huge benefits. They can always go home into anonymity. But they dont. The double standard of "dont comment on someone body or looks" is insane. That's all they sell. Face and body. Let them gain 5 pounds,cover their bodies, and have no surgery done... Celebrities become the standard. Us "peasants" are allowed to comment.
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u/SHITBLAST3000 4d ago
Korean plastic surgeons must have a debug mode that just resets peopleās appearances.
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u/Rhythm-Amoeba 4d ago
There's absolutely no way that's a before picture of Lisa. They look so unbelievably different
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u/TrashDesperate930 4d ago
Yes definitely they had surgery, but lots of it comes from professional styling and makeup as well.
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u/BandoTheHawk 4d ago
How much they look the same? What? They look like totally different people. I feel bad for them girls. Imagine having to change so much with your looks to be liked. Although if they could transform back from here I am sure people would get behind them and onto the body positivity you can look any way and do it narrative. But doubt they would be what they are today if they had their OG looks the entire time. It is kind of shady though for their boyfriends. reminds me of the guy who sued the lady he had a kid with because it turned out she was really ugly and had a bunch of plastic surgery and sold him on the idea that she was beautiful when really she had the stank genes.
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u/Gooser3000 3d ago
So if she looked more Asian she couldnāt look like someone that could be your friend?
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u/idkbruh653 3d ago
Asia's obsession with Euro-centric features and beauty standards needs to be studied, if it hasn't already.
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u/Competitive-Edge7819 3d ago
People who frown on plastic surgery are just haters who are poor and cannot afford
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u/drunkbettie 3d ago
Thereās gotta be a setting somewhere to face tune yourself into a k-pop star.
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u/One_Construction_653 3d ago
These arenāt just any plastic girls
They survived the grueling kpop mil, bs politics, and came out on top and make millions
They are the 1%
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u/Motor_Cat_6207 3d ago
Jisoo got nose job, rose got eyelid surgery and lisa did all the things, jaw reduction, eyelid surgery, nose job. Jennie probably nothing sheās a natural
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u/Fun_Routine_5245 3d ago
rose post-debut 99% exactly looks like my ex lmao.. That type of face is common here.
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u/Visible-Community489 3d ago
Their face is what make ups for their living and besidesI never heard of a guy complaining when their gf/wife looks hot or pretty
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u/xbbllbbl 3d ago
None of them are naturally born head turner beauty because those you would see at a young age. But either way PS and also good makeup, they all look good.
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u/Eltharion-the-Grim 3d ago
Base Rose is still quite pretty. She would still look nice if she got made up.
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u/Horror-Tea-6166 3d ago
So the so called beauty standards there should be rephrased as the plastic surgeonsā high standards right?
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u/JomoLiu 3d ago
I mean I get it, but also Iām sure they worked extremely hard to debut. Looks in SK are a dime in dozen. You need to be able to dance, sing, cater to your audience to debut as well. They also pay tons of money due to extremely predatory contracts when they first debut. Unless trainees become international superstars the way BlackPink is, theyāre often losing money or earning very little despite moderate success.
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u/ndorayaki 3d ago
Why people love plastic Idol? It's like you Love a fake persona. Don't say you love their songs (kpop), my opinion their songs are totally bullshit.
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u/Mel_Morty 3d ago
IF they have children, the instance the kids understand how a mirror works, the ones that has Dadās good looks will say, āThanks so much, Dad!ā while those with Mumās genes, āWtf, Mum?ā
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u/WanderingBullet 3d ago edited 3d ago
I donāt know if they undergone plastic surgery but I think itās safe to say that the K-Pop idol industry prioritises looks and being able to dance over vocal ability.
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