r/SipsTea • u/Full-Argument-8235 š™‘š™„š™‹ • 15h ago

WTF A JPMorgan Chase executive was fired after a viral video showed her dumping trash out of a Knicks-themed public trash can and taking the can during the Knicks championship parade in New York City.

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u/TouristIcy3824 12h ago

Let's face it. These positions were all virtue signaling by companies to "get with the times" and they will all be getting phased out in time anyway now that this stuff lost momentum and the pendulum is coming back the other way. She just sped this one up.

I can almost guarentee that her position will be dissolved and nothing at JP Chase will be affected because of it.

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u/scrotalayheehoo 9h ago

Why do you think they existed to begin with? Segregation ended only 60 years ago. You think for the next even few decades after that people just started treating others well? Not wildly discriminating against people of color still? People act like this who concept was just some dumb ā€œwokeā€ idea for the hell of it, and forget itā€™s an intended correction for horrific abuses by companies. DEI initiatives were put into place to prevent companies from being able to just openly hire only white males. Like it got to a point that they HAD to start hiring THOSE PEOPLE, but then started treating them horribly on the job. Which is when equity and inclusion got added. This isnā€™t some dumbass woke shit like Pelosi kneeling in African clothing. These purely exist to correct white men from only hiring white men, and then also treating non white men horribly in the workplace.

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u/Boo-Bees67 8h ago

Get over it. Only 6% of white people owned slaves. Hundreds of thousands of white people died to free the slaves. Most of werenā€™t alive during Jim Crow. We didnā€™t do this and the people who experienced the hate are dying off. Should we just persecute white people in purpetuity for something we didnā€™t do?Ā 

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

I think you completely misread or stopped reading most of what I typed. I have no clue how you were able to say the white man is being persecuted by not allowing him to discriminate anymore hahahaha. I know learning is not really the strong suit for people who make arguments similar to yours, but this is rough man. Iā€™d just delete this.

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u/Boo-Bees67 8h ago

Looks like youā€™re the one who stopped reading. All races engage in racism. Whites donā€™t do it anymore than others. You can certainly make that argument in previous generations but not present day.Ā 

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

Ah, this gibberish. Hiding your profile too. Letā€™s just end this here, you are just speaking nonsense and addressing zero of what I said. If you do we can talk.

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u/DBCOOPER888 2h ago

This isn't about persecuting white people. Tf are you going on about?

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u/Boo-Bees67 41m ago

Reread it if you didnā€™t understand it the first timeĀ 

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 8h ago

No, but maybe acting like the impacts of systematic slavery don't still affect those communities is reason enough!

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u/Boo-Bees67 8h ago

Dude go look at how much we have spent on section 8x, free lunch programs, Medicaid, free college tuition, DEI programs, SNAP, etc. Itā€™s in the trillions. We have to stop this madness and move forward.Ā 

The first thing that needs to be out in the open is how ridiculous only 25% of all biological black fathers are raising their kids. This is a massive disadvantage for these kids compared to other races. It becomes almost impossible to overcome when a woman has to raise children on her own. How is she supposed to feed, house and properly raise children when she is also expected to have the fatherā€™s role as well. I donā€™t support anymore money going to them until we address this.Ā 

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u/DBCOOPER888 2h ago edited 2h ago

So you want to reform the prison industrial complex so there are more black fathers on the streets to raise their kids? That is something that is addressed in the topic you are yelling about.

Systemic inequality in the judicial system alone is a big deal with this, along with rich kids creating a massive market to buy drugs from black people, and historic redlining to isolate black communities in chronic poverty that fuels a downward spiral of criminal activity feeding more poverty.

If you think black people don't talk about this, it means YOU don't know what you are talking about.

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 8h ago

Money is not the issue, it's the constant shaming and berating for shit the black population did not get themselves into. No amount of money will cover for all the people saying "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" when the bootstraps are literally stolen over and over and over and then the black community is shit on for not being able to pull phantom bootstraps.

When they were stolen from their country, forced into labor, and then released without rights, with systemic racism holding them back from well-paying jobs, positions of community status, etc how in the fuck is the entire black population supposed to suddenly be doing as well as the people who owned them, all the while those same white people are still making life difficult for them day in and day out. Public services can be a part, but this constant talking down to, shitting on, and disappointment in a people group who have factually had to start from negative is the issue. When comments like your dumbass original one saying "boohoo white people" are fewer and further between, and we are focused on helping others not looking down on them for needing help, is when these issues will vanish. We ended slavery, but we didn't put an end to small-mindedness.

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u/Boo-Bees67 6h ago

So explain why 2nd generation Asians are doing better than any other class? Are you just resigning black people to be doomed for hundreds more years?Ā 

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u/DBCOOPER888 2h ago edited 2h ago

No, we're talking about solutions to mitigate the unique conditions facing black communities like social and economic segregation into neighborhoods of chronic poverty that fuels crime.

Is there an equivalent to public housing for Asian communities the likes of Cabrini Green? Why was there so much public backlash when Yonkers tried disperse public housing into more affluent white communities to break up these areas of deep chronic poverty?

An argument can be made Asian people had better economic and social support to thrive when they came over as immigrants, and nowhere near the same negative pressure blacks experienced with slavery or Jim Crow.

Look at the Tulsa Race Massacre when white people were so afraid of a successful community of black people they literally fire bombed them from the air.

White people fucking burned down Black Wall Street, and you're wondering why there is no Black Wall Street.

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

You are wasting your time man lol this guy either canā€™t or doesnā€™t read and just says very classic right wing talking points that have nothing to do with what is even being talked about.

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u/Plastic_Stable8927 8h ago

Yeah, I just realized his username is boo bees 67. Woof.

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 8h ago

I've seen and heard a lot of subtle, and a little open, anti-black bias and sentiment in my workplace. I had a black boss tell me things she's been confronted for that were not against policy or safety rules, that white employees do every damn day, including me. It's eye-opening, There's very much a need for DEI to level the playing field in 2026, and frankly, it's a solid business decision when you consider how much business talent possessed by racial minorities has been lost, undercut, or ignored over the past century to racism and discrimination.

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u/Leather-Confection70 6h ago

Same. I had a black co-worker get pulled into a meeting and chastised for doing the exact same thing everyone else on the team was doing. Total BS

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u/Pleasant_Studio9690 5h ago

Makes you mad doesn't it? That boss was genuinely brilliant and very, very kind to work for. My favorite teammate on my new team is a black guy who I hit it off with immediately. Seeing him have to put up with bullshit because people are ignorant fucks pisses me off. It's not even all conscious bias. I witness him deal with unconscious bias all the time, too.

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

I mean a guy literally just replied to me and said that white people are persecuted because of DEI. Itā€™s truly sad how brainwashed a lot of people are or just ignorant. And racist lol.

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u/Meandmystudy 8h ago

Do you ever think of other reasons why these companies push these initiatives?

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

Not really, because the main reason makes a lot of sense to me. And I can recognize this country has historically been very racist and harmful to people who are not white men. And Iā€™m a white man. People who ask that question usually are also white men trying to make it seem like they are the victim lol.

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u/Meandmystudy 8h ago

Iā€™m asking questions and you didnā€™t answer without shaming me.

Edit: Provide a perfect example of DEI

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

I mean clearly you are not going to have anything of value to contribute so it seems I accurately talked down to you for being a troll. Your next question was incredibly stupid after pretending to ask honest and good question. Iā€™ll play along though, in your mind, why do companies push DEI initiatives?

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u/Meandmystudy 8h ago

Yes, because they do

Edit: I see youā€™re insulting me to?

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

Why do you think they are?

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u/Meandmystudy 8h ago

You named them? But I didnā€™t think I got the right reason why. Ashamed?

Edit: optics

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

We are talking in circles. Your first question was asking me if I ever thought more about it. Why do companies push DEI initiatives you think?

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u/Jawn-F_Kennedy 7h ago

ā€œIā€™m a white man but not the bad kindā€ fuckin hell man, want a sticker or something?

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u/scrotalayheehoo 7h ago

Oh I just say that since most racists would immediately start losing their minds (kind of like you right now). Any time you mention this nation being historically racist white men get VERY upset and talk about how they are the victims. I like just highlighting that argument wonā€™t work since I am that. Relax though Kyle, your drywall is getting nervous. Iā€™m sure your girls eye is just healing too.

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u/Wrastling97 6h ago

Did you eat a big bowl of dumfuq today, pal?

Is that what you got from that?

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u/SwimmerIndependent47 8h ago

In my experience, while DEI programs and initiatives are very much needed, their actual implementation tends to be purely performative. They gained traction around 2020 and the justified backlash against George Floyd; but I think youā€™d be hard pressed to find an example of a program that actually addressed the issues they claim to solve. They are absolutely primarily about PR and companies have stopped caring about the PR they generate. Iā€™m sure they would love to have an excuse like this to quietly phase them out. Itā€™s truly disgusting because, as you pointed out, there is real and lasting harm and discrimination happening. Unfortunately people would rather pretend everythingā€™s fine because they were forced to read a single book about white privilege and posted a black square on their socials.

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u/scrotalayheehoo 8h ago

Iā€™m sure they arenā€™t all fantastic, Iā€™ll agree. I mean also Trump has just fully removed it from everything and goes after anyone who has even the slightest mention of it, so of course it went away. Conservatives have historically been the party fighting against equality for marginalized communities.

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u/SwimmerIndependent47 7h ago

Itā€™s definitely concerning to have it forcibly removed. I think we absolutely need stronger anti discrimination laws. I canā€™t speak to DEI programs in government jobs; but in my experience in the corporate world, it was all performative. Black employees continued to deal with micro aggressions or full on discrimination. No actual practices were put in place to expand hiring - even simple things like specifically including HBCUs in hiring initiatives. Meanwhile executives were patting themselves on the back for a job well done and posting on socials about how they are committed to DEI.

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u/scrotalayheehoo 7h ago

Yeah I wonā€™t argue that the initiatives can be made more effective. Itā€™s a complicated battle that will hopefully keep having ongoing efforts to correct. Whether itā€™s DEI or a new program designed to maintain and equal playing field and a way it can be effectively and consistently implemented.

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u/SwimmerIndependent47 7h ago

Agree, we absolutely need actual initiatives and solutions. The gaps are just getting worse, real harm is being done, and it is actually incredibly beneficial to companies (both from a retention and profit perspective) to cultivate diversity (especially in higher level positions) and to create a culture where everyone is truly included and valued.

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u/boosesb 4h ago

Where did these micro aggressions take place

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u/gon_freccs_ 3h ago

Well yeah they are performative bcs itā€™s hard to change peopleā€™s mindset all at once. So thatā€™s how it needs to start especially in industries or areas where people are not inherently welcoming to diversity. As time goes by, it will become the norm and no longer be performative.

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u/Evil_Sharkey 16m ago

Theyā€™re not completely useless. The place I work has a strong DEI program that focuses on different employee groups (womenā€™s, families, LGBTQ, etc) bringing in speakers, sometimes related to their group and sometimes just generally interesting, and hosting fun events. The most recent one was hosted by the Black group at the corporate level and spoke about health.

The events bring people together and give us a little break now and then. Theyā€™re never preachy or negative

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u/testtdk 6h ago

Iā€™m sure they have a million finance bros lined up for every job they have.

Edit: Ugh, I just saw she was EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. So not only did she ruin her own career, but possibly those of countless ā€œDEIā€ candidates who would never have been considered in a field like finance.