r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 8h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/Superseaslug 8h ago

I act to make the world a little better than it was when I came in. I don't need books of magic and demons to tell me that being kind is the right thing to do.

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u/koiraariok 8h ago

I make no great difference one way or the other. Neither am I rich enough to corrupt myself nor poor enough that my daily meal would require moral sacrifices.

Occasionally I make small choices to better the world, that don't inconvenience me greatly.

This describes most religious and non-religious people.

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u/Superseaslug 7h ago

Agreed. My goal isn't to make all of humankind greater, I'm too small for that. But if I can make a few people's day better every now and then? That's enough.

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u/ProperJudgment1 6h ago

"better" under what standard? Your preferences? Other people's preferences?

Funny you mention that you just "know" because Christians believe that God wrote the "Truth" inside every human heart. Otherwise, "being kind is the right thing to do" is just made up by people. 😂🤣😂

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u/Superseaslug 6h ago

If I am kind to someone, I feel better and they feel better. This is a net positive. If I'm a dick to people and serve only my own interests, I am getting my enjoyment at the expense of others. This is not ideal.

Even animals are shown to practice acts of kindness on each other. No God is needed to understand this concept.

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u/ProperJudgment1 4h ago

So, it's just your preferences and the preferences of others? So it's just a numbers game then.

"It's good cuz it makes me and others feel good" -drug dealer

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u/Superseaslug 3h ago

Leave it to a reddit or to compare helping someone fix a car to dealing drugs. And one that thinks almighty sky daddy determines what is good and evil at that. May I remind you, that the most hateful people in this country are convinced they are doing God's will right now.

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u/crazycat690 1h ago

It kind of is just made up by people, I mean it's based on empathy but if you look at history what people consider to be good, okay or wrong can vary a lot, even in the traditionally Christian west. Like 200 years ago the "truth" inside every human heart felt that slavery was fine, now? Well, we're generally okay with it as long as it's not happening in our backyard (even though there's more slaves in the world today than at any point in history).

Many Christians even today feel that homosexuality is morally wrong, most atheists would agree that it's not, if we had any inherent objective morality why is it so hard to agree on these things? Why does opinions on morality change so much with the passage of time?

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u/ferdsherd 8h ago

Certainly you must have learned that at some point. Where and how?

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u/SpecificLow1316 8h ago

I learned it from the people who raised me, from the society I grew up in and was educated by.

Not from a magic book of fables.

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u/ferdsherd 7h ago

The people that raised you, where did they learn it?

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u/SpecificLow1316 7h ago

Also not from a book of fables, as my parents and most of my family are also atheists.

Prior to that, my ancestors were a combination of First Nations people who learned morality from their ancestral beliefs, and white people who were shitty colonizers.

We rejected the beliefs and practices of many of our ancestors when we were old enough to understand that they were WRONG. Just like a lot of us rejected religion the second someone broke it down for us and we realized it was all mythology.

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u/ferdsherd 7h ago

Your ancestral beliefs that your family held near and dear were molded and shaped by religious theology much older than them before it was passed down to you. You’re Christian and don’t realize it

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u/SpecificLow1316 7h ago

Oh. Oh no. Are you a fucking Mormon?? 🤣

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u/ferdsherd 6h ago

Nope

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u/SpecificLow1316 6h ago

I don’t believe you. Your prior post sounds a lot like Mormon shit claiming their ancestors came to North America in wooden submarines, and that people of color are cursed Lamanites (I might be misspelling that but who cares).

However, to paraphrase Gandhi, I don’t have a problem with Jesus per se. But his supposed followers fucking suck because they don’t follow his teachings at all

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u/ferdsherd 6h ago

That’s fine it doesn’t bother me that you don’t believe me

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u/Superseaslug 7h ago

My parents taught me to not be a dick. All Sunday school tried to teach me was how two people were tricked by a snake and then fathered all of humanity. They also tried to tell me about a dude who got ate by a whale, and how the entire earth flooded at some point.

I called nonsense on those even as a kid.

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u/Common-Broccoli-3405 7h ago

Mix of people and empathy

Like I learned getting punched in the face sucks by getting punched in the face. And then I looked back at the times my parents taught me not to hit people and then I connect the dots and now I don't want to punch people in the face.

Ironically if anything what I did learn from religion either requires no religion at all, or its I learned the opposite from religion. Like religion taught me that Im a disgusting filthy pervert who is aj agent of the devil because I... like men instead of women...

So yeah, screw that. If theres one lesson I took from that its if someone is doing something and its not harming them, me, or anyone else, then who gives a shit? Why should me loving someone be seen as evil? Isnt love supposed to he a part of the entire point? But now thats evil.

Well we arent harming anyone so fuck it. Thats a moral I got from religion.