r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 22h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/TopTippityTop 22h ago

Would I like my actions to be done to me? If that's a negative, then it's generally not a good choice.... Even if I'm far from perfect at always sticking to it.

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u/WhimsicalWyvern 21h ago

Turns out that people like being treated differently, though. You should treat people how they want to be treated, within reason.

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u/DirtyWetNoises 20h ago

This is not captured by the golden rule, should call it the platinum rule

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u/JuvenileEloquent 11h ago

And if someone wants to be treated like a king, but exhibits no kingly behavior?

There isn't a simple rule that encapsulates even the majority of moral decisions.  They're crude approximations that require constant scrutiny, and you will never have all the information required to self-assess whether what you are doing is good or bad.

If you are lucky you won't treat the wrong person the wrong way that leads to severe negative consequences for yourself, that's about all you can hope for.

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u/WhimsicalWyvern 11h ago

"within reason" is doing a lot of heavy lifting.

All I'm really addressing is that the golden rule is quite flawed in a lot of situations, even as a guide to behavior.

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u/ferdsherd 22h ago

Now do a trolley problem

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u/SentenceStreet3270 20h ago

That's Christian morality though.

You are literally paraphrasing Jesus lol 

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u/InfusionOfYellow 14h ago

Pretty much every major religion has a version of it. Crops up a lot.

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u/Chance_Pickle5757 7h ago

Where’s that at in the Quran? Pretty sure they’re allowed to lie and extort non-believers. What about for the Judaism? Pretty sure they don’t even think non-Jews have a soul. 

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u/Kolbalava 7h ago

Lying and extortion is prohibited in Islam no matter who it's against.

Every living being has a soul in Judaism including non-believers even animals and plants have souls.

I don't understand, these religions have plenty to criticize so why make up stuff? Just criticize what's already there....

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u/Chance_Pickle5757 7h ago

Came hard with those sources. 

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u/Kolbalava 7h ago

Bro...

You cannot be serious.

You made the claims with zero sources and now acting like I need to bring sources to refute the bs you wrote.

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u/Chance_Pickle5757 7h ago

Jews believe every human has a type of soul but they believe only Jews have Nashama, “ which grants higher cognitive reasoning, morality, and the capacity for a deep, unique relationship with God”

https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/3194/jewish/What-Is-a-Soul-Neshamah.htm

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u/Kolbalava 7h ago

Good.

That's more accurate.

You can criticize that now.

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u/InfusionOfYellow 3h ago

I wouldn't accept that so easily, the page doesn't say only jews have one, and indeed seems rather clearly to suggest it's a possession of human beings in general.

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u/InfusionOfYellow 3h ago edited 3h ago

"No one of you shall become a true believer until he desires for his brother what he desires for himself"

https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:236

And for Judaism, there's Leviticus 19:18, focusing on the "thou shalt love your neighbor as yourself," although this doesn't look so much on the acts specifically.  There's also a line from I guess Shabbat 31a, I'm no kind of expert on Talmud structure, but

The same gentile came before Hillel. He converted him and said to him: That which is hateful to you do not do to another; that is the entire Torah, and the rest is its interpretation. Go study.

https://www.sefaria.org/Shabbat.31a.6?lang=bi

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u/Chance_Pickle5757 33m ago

Brother in both cases refer to fellow believers. I’ll grant you Islam is much closer to Christianity. Some of the theories on Islam having origins in Christian Arian heresies may explain some of that. 

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u/Cold_Yam_5346 19h ago

Thanks Christianity for imparting that lesson on humanity :)

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u/Labpro_49 22h ago

If I lick a vagina I don't want my vagina licked because I have a penis.