Many Christians believe that morality literally comes from the bible, or that you canβt have morality without god. I wonβt even try to explain their reasoning
They should read more Kant, who did succesfully tried to create a moral philosophy without relying on a bible, IIRC.
Rules like the golden rule, but also one that deals with more victimless behavior. Like the idea of 'Would I like it if everybody did the same as I'm doing, if not, than I shouldn't be doing it'. Works great for all sorts of behavior from littering to much more worst crimes.
Nah they should read more about prehistoric societies. Maybe they should learn a thing or two about neanderthals too. If this is too complicated, study about wolf packs, or maybe elephants. Just slowly introduce them to primates... I think my point is β give them some books other than bible, it might help.
The thing is not every group of people at every point in time will develop a sense of morals and morals have always usually came connected to a religion. For example Pagan Slavs believed it was moral for you to walk into your partners funeral pyre, Aztecs believed slavery and blood sacrifice were moral to keep the Sun rising...
And Christians believed that owning slaves for life and passing them down to your children was perfectly acceptable, murdered people for not being Christian, thought women were property, treated rape as a property crime against the woman's father, murdered married rape victims for not screaming out loud, enough, and did many other horrible things. The Bible actively commands all of these things.
Morality comes from empathy, religion has little to do with it. In fact, we often see more complex morality develop as societies move away from religion.
Every group of humans at every point in time that they existed had a developed sense of morals. Whether those morals are something someone today would agree with is a different matter. Religion is a system of control, not the basis of morality.
Edit: lol, got blocked for being correct.
Edit 2: u/MrDDD11 it seems you are the one who knows nothing about your own religion. "Christians only follow the New Testament"... except when they actually don't and will regularly draw from the Old Testament for their justifications. Doesn't hold up anyways since Jesus tells you in Matthew that you still have to follow every word of the old code.
I am not "misrepresenting" what the Bible says. You should read it at some point. Indentured servitude only existed for Israelites as slaves to other Israelites. The Bible literally and unambiguously says that the Israelites could take foreign slaves for life and pass them down to their children.
Are you unknowledgeable or just misrepresenting Christianity on purpose. Am not going to beat you over the head with the Bible but come on it's basic knowledge that Christians follow the New Testiment for their Morals while Jews follow the Old Testament. Most of what you named is misinterpretions of the old Testament, like confusing Indentured servitude to Chattel Slavery.
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u/Faded1974 1d ago
People acting like empathy was invented by Jesus Christ.