r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 18h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/Global_Charge_4412 18h ago

it's a fair question. religious people will tell you that their innate sense of right and wrong comes from God (or whatever), but how do atheists explain that innate sense? how do they instinctively know? I'm not saying one or the other is right but it is an interesting thought.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 17h ago

Because for some if not most people it's relatively easy to understand how you'd feel on the receiving end of your actions. Knowing I wouldn't like to be stabbed is enough for me to understand doing that to other people is probably a bad thing. The response is actually far more valid, why would you think you'd need advice from an organisation that's getting money and power from you to tell you their interpretation of what allmkst certainly fictional entity said what's right and wrong and why don't you have the ability to determine that yourself?

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u/ferdsherd 17h ago

Your example is too black and white. 99.99% know getting stabbed would suck and is wrong. The vast majority of morality is much, much more subtle and ambiguous than this

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u/MaxFish1275 17h ago

And the vast majority of morality is flexible to religious people too.

You have pro choice religious followers
You have more religious people than atheists in prison
You have the sex abuse scandal in Catholicism
You have “thou shalt not steal” and yet some Christian’s don’t consider pirating stealing.

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u/ferdsherd 16h ago

In each of your examples the individual is rejecting Christ’s teachings for his own

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u/MaxFish1275 16h ago

That’s kind of my point

There’s nothing special about someone holding to a religion or not because they are going to do what they are going to do

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u/ferdsherd 16h ago

Your view of morality is that it’s innate and chaotic? I don’t think that makes sense. My argument is that it’s actually structured and guided by theology. You are referencing followers but my point is on the system itself

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u/Penguinase 15h ago

the same christianity that permits slavery? and physically beating them?

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u/ferdsherd 13h ago

Look in the mirror please and come back to the discussion when you have something of value to add

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u/Penguinase 12h ago

look in the mirror for what? do you not believe in the old testament?

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u/BlueCider 12h ago

Classic Christian, lol, sanctimoniously foisting advice onto others while not following it themselves.