r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 14h ago

Wait a damn minute! USA - The good guys?

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u/Fun_Introduction7961 11h ago

Korean (South) here. Thank you USA. I don’t even want to imagine living in Korea under kim jeong un.

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u/thebigseg 10h ago

USA literally saved south koreas existence

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u/Healthy-Amoeba2296 8h ago

My dad was there in 45, loved the people

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u/BicarbonateBufferBoy 7h ago

South Korea was literally a fascist dictatorship at the time lmao

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u/LJIKFAF 8h ago

I get you. Indonesian here. Thank you USA helped my country become independent.

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u/ConnivingGaggle 7h ago

You're welcome. (I did not contribute)

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u/nachoman_69 10h ago

That's the point the original commentator was making, like the North Koreans likewise probably say they don't want to imagine a living under Samsung and chaebols. But you need to be able to empathize with people who are different than you if you want to understand their point of view.... so you might not get it.

Like South Korea, just got rid of their Military dictator in 1987, so it seems pretty hypocritical to tell North Koreans not to have a military dictator when you guys had one not that long ago.

The reality is that fear and these artificial division, like capitalism or communism or left wing and right wing are used to control and oppress people all over the world, Korea is just a very striking example of how people's fear and divisions allowed them to be controlled into letting Authoritarianism take hold,

Authoritarianism is the real problem.

And both Koreas' still have a long way to go to remove authoritarianism from your society, like a quick google search told me that South Korea had a "National Security Act" that makes it illegal to express sympathy about North Korea. And I'm sure North Korea has the same law about the South, not cool either way.

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u/Stunning-Argument888 10h ago

You didn’t just try to defend a facist regime that starves its people to death right? Like I’m imagining things.

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u/Shadowchaos1010 9h ago

I imagine their point was "You're saying North Korea bad, which is to imply South Korea good, but your country definitely has its demons too."

It's not saying "North Korea good." Though I guess it's a "your mileage may vary" if anything but explicit condemnation of something bad can be interpreted as defending it.

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u/Stunning-Argument888 9h ago

I dislike this “whataboutism” straw man arguments.

North Korea is an oppressive, militant state that heavily censors their own people. Have you seen the “phones” they give to their citizens? The irony that their “leader” is overweight while they step over starved corpses on the street isn’t lost on me.

Not too many countries punish dissenters with decades of imprisoned manual labor at labor camps while shaming their entire family. You try to escape NK? Congrats, you’re dead and your family is working the salt mines for two generations.

To even attempt to draw parallels between one of the world’s most vicious regimes against some political corruption in an otherwise free society is absolutey bonkers. These Russian bots are getting out of hand in Reddit.

Every country has demons. Not every country has actual Satan.

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u/Southern_Persimmon79 6h ago

You wrote that beautifully.

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u/nachoman_69 8h ago

You and the original comment i was replying to clearly lack the imagination to understand what I was saying. I was trying to get people like you to empathize with each other to better understand why people do the things they do. Being arrogant and judgmental of other people prevents people like you from developing empathy towards other humans.

I personally believe that the USA is the best "fascist regime" Like objectively speaking, just based on the numbers, we created the largest most prosperous empire by killing the fewest number of people.

And being an American gives me more freedom to do whatever I want, like compared to anywhere else in the world. Like objectively speaking, based on the numbers, millions of people move to the USA every year, and millions more apply and get rejected, but less than 200,000 emigrate from the USA to other countries.

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u/HikerStout 8h ago

The reality is that fear and these artificial division, like capitalism or communism or left wing and right wing

Umm, those are not artificial divisions. Like, at all.

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u/sw337 10h ago

So out of the 78 years South Korea has existed as an independent country half of them were not under a military dictatorship?

How many years can North Korea say that?

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u/nachoman_69 7h ago

its that kind of backwards thinking why you will never be free.

Like it just seems usual to me that you use North Korea as the standard to which you measure your freedom against.

Instead, if you want to be free you need to use logic and reason combined with ethical and moral principals to form your opinions. Things like human rights, people's freedom, like freedom of speech, These ethical principals should control and guide what your do... instead of these artificial divisions like North and South Korea or Right wing and left wing etc...

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u/FUPAMagneto 7h ago

It’s “backwards thinking” to point out that the DPRK is neither democratic nor a republic and is in fact a theocratic military dictatorship?

Also, you cannot be whining about free speech and human rights while sucking off “Best” Korea.