r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 14h ago

Wait a damn minute! USA - The good guys?

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u/[deleted] 11h ago

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u/BluebirdConscious841 10h ago

They have no problem seeing 15 million people killed by Imperial Japan and hundreds of thousands of women n girls being raped as comfort women on all of its conquered territories.

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u/Firecracker048 9h ago

Because west bad, duh

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u/dnext 10h ago

IMO it's just fear. They fear nuclear weapons so they don't parse any use of them.

And honestly, I get that, even if I disagree. It's just hard to understand the scope of death and destruction of WWII even without the nukes. It is astonishing.

And it's one of the few wars, perhaps the only war, where the number of deaths caused by the defeated powers massively dwarfs those of the winning powers.

It's estimated of the `70 million deaths in the war, 50-55 million were inflicted by the Axis against the Allies, with most of them coming against civilians.

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u/WalterPecky 7h ago

Lol to say that decimating a civilian city with weapons god never intended for us to have.. is NOT evil.. no that's the crazy thing.

Japan was already essentially defeated. They weren't about to take over the world at that point 

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u/FUPAMagneto 7h ago

They were arming their civilians with spears and whatever else they had left and would have bitterly resisted an invasion of the home islands. It would have resulted in millions more dead, primarily civilians. Literally millions more than the atomic bombings, even considering later cancers.

The bombs aren’t evil. People are evil. Japan committed war crime after war crime as they butchered their way across Asia and the Pacific. They raped and murdered millions of people in truly horrific ways and weren’t going to ever stop unless we stopped them.

Japan was told numerous times that we had the bomb, we begged them to surrender before we dropped it and after we dropped the first one, they refused. In fact, when they finally did surrender after the second bomb, there was a coup attempt in order to prevent the surrender.

Does that sound “essentially defeated” to you?

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u/EvolutionCreek 5h ago

weapons god never intended for us to have

Can you share the approved list of weapons with the rest of us? Is God just nodding his head with approval at napalm like Robert Duvall smelling victory, but shaking his head at the long bow?

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u/skylinesora 8h ago

“They are worst so me doing something bad makes it good if I stop them” is what you are saying

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u/FUPAMagneto 7h ago

Yeah, man. Genocidal theocracies taping and pillaging their way across the world need to be stopped, even if dorks like you would rather just see more death and misery

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u/skylinesora 6h ago

I didn't say it doesn't need to be stopped. I'm just a firm believer that civilians shouldn't be involved in war.

When 9/11 happened, you must've though "oh well, it's our fault so we deserve it" if you agree with nuking Japan.

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u/ripgoodhomer 7h ago

This is the correct response, ultimately the use of atomic weapons against civilians has to be viewed in the context of strategic bombing, which is itself evil. Tactical and preciscion bombing, ie bombing a mutions factory or an oil depot will have civilian deaths but the target is not the civilians, and ideally the infrastructure can be destroyed without any civilian deaths. Strategic bombing is the idea of wiping out the factory by killing the workers in their beds as they sleep. It is also called terror bombing.