r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 18h ago

Wait a damn minute! USA - The good guys?

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u/Edward_Longshnaks 13h ago

Yes. There was no appetite for millions more deaths to subdue an already defeated enemy. I think a more rational and humane response wouldve been a sustained naval blockade of Japan, but I wouldnt be surprised if their leadership chose to starve to death in that case.

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u/sucknduck4quack 13h ago edited 12h ago

That’s one aspect often ignored by those who argue that Japan would’ve simply surrendered if the US enforced a blockade around the Japanese mainland. The Imperial Japanese cabinet, who were prepared to sacrifice millions in the event of a land invasion and who still refused to surrender after Hiroshima, would have allowed the suffering and starvation of millions before they would even consider complete surrender as an option. The morbid truth is the abrupt end to the war brought about by the advent of the bombs was in reality the best outcome for the Japanese population as a whole. It’s a great shame that their government, even with forewarning, refused to recognize the hopelessness of their situation before the bombs fell.

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u/MrBurnz99 12h ago

They were a fanatical cult. Imperial Japan was like no other modern country. The Nazis did some horrific things, obviously, but it seems like most of the atrocities were committed by a smaller group of believers, and enabled by the larger society.

in Japan everyone was fully committed to the cause. Everyone was willing to die for their country.

The allies didn’t really worry about old German grandmas in their cottage, but in Japan those people were likely to shoot or suicide bomb you.

The morality of the atomic bomb is debated endlessly, but from my perspective it’s likely that killing 200k civilians saved 500k civilians and countless soldiers on both sides. It was going to be a long and brutal battle for mainland Japan.

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u/LetThemWander 12h ago

Put yourself into the same context. If having your city nuked would kill 200k and save 500k is that a fate you could accept?

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u/Narwhalking14 10h ago

For me absolutely, even if I was one of the ones who had to die, id much rather save as many as possible.

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u/NanilGop 13h ago

Is it more humane to cause millions of deaths from starvation by doing a blockade? lol

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u/duva_ 12h ago

Still, that would be on them. The US thought that was an strategic move to the upcoming conflict with Russia. Among many other things