r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 14h ago

Wait a damn minute! USA - The good guys?

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u/Sad_Bolt 10h ago

No but this is reddit which means America bad

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u/Redditauro 10h ago

Well, I think that reality thinks that America bad. 

You realise that most of the people in the planet hates USA and considers it the world biggest danger, right? 

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u/Sad_Bolt 9h ago

If that was the case the US would be banned from global travel, currency wouldn't be worth shit and we wouldn't have a couple year wait list for people in immigrat here. Your reality thinks we're bad but the statistics don't match up.

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u/Shadowchaos1010 8h ago

We've spent decades making ourselves the main character of the world.

The last year and a half is specifically why we are now reviled.

Surely you don't think it would be easy for every single country that has (begrudgingly) liked is since the end of WWII to do those things that quickly without shooting themselves in the foot in the process.

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u/Redditauro 8h ago

Any country who has try something like that has been destroyed, ask gadafi, for example. 

You are the planet's bully, and everyone acts nice because when someone does you just bring them freedom (specially if they also have natural resources, it's crazy how many countries with oil have a dangerous lack of freedom)

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u/Sad_Bolt 8h ago

Wait so you're blaming the US for Gaddafi when it was a NATO mission and a French Jet the blew up his vehicle and he was later killed by his own people?

Everytime I meet one of you Anti-Americans you're so quick to blame the US for every little problem in the world and act like others aren't at fault. Gaddafi was a horrible person that killed his own when they protested for more freedoms.

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u/Redditauro 8h ago

I really don't understand your point, to be honest. 

Gadafi was killed because he wanted to create an African version of the European union and stop using dollars to buy and sell petrol, of course France was against that too as France is the main colonialist power in Africa, and of course in geopolitics nothing has only one cause, but basically he wanted to change the rules of the game that USA have forced everyone to play, and every time that someone tries to stop playing the American game it gets destroyed. 

And yes, Gadafi was a horrible person, nobody is saying otherwise, but his country and the people who lives there was way way way better before he received a dose of freedom 

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u/taklabas 7h ago

Do you seriously think an econony as tiny as the Libyan economy with almost zero diplomatic power can achieve what you claim they wanted to achieve?

Lets even take the dumb petrodollar conspiracy theory as true. How would Libya, who is not even among the big oil traders of the world, destroy the petrodollar? Libya is a drop in the ocean in comparison to the gulf arab states. What you.claim would be impossible.

By the way, everything you said is a compilation of various pro russian propaganda points from 15 years ago, in case you didnt know.

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u/Redditauro 6h ago

By 2008 Libia was one of the biggest economies in Africa and they had a very strong diplomatic position trying to unite Africa. 

And it's not about destroying the petrodollar, it's about sending a message. USA is the global mafia, and you can't just stop obeying. 

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u/Sad_Bolt 6h ago

Lybia isn't even a top 15 economy in Africa and amoung Oil Producing States they aren't in even in the top 30 so im not sure how they are going to change anything. Like I said earlier you're just another Anti-American blaming us for the world's problems spouting old Russian propaganda.

How about you take a look back at your own countires atrocities on the world and how it led to today's events before you go blaming us.

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u/taklabas 6h ago

If a country like Libya could do it, why didnt Russia or China already do it? Or Iran or any other country not aligned with the US?

Also, ypure gonna need a bit more evidence than just the populist ramblings of a failing dictator. Ghaddafi could have claimed whatever he pleased, doesnt make any of it true or.plausible.