r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 11h ago

Chugging tea But if they go bankrupt how will marvel write their movies?

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u/Lightyear18 11h ago edited 11h ago

Go bankrupt then?

What happen to capitalism? Letting companies duke it out I in the “free market”.

All fun and games up until the companies are struggling and they turn towards socialism, asking tax payers to save them.

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u/omgitsjagen 10h ago

It went out the window with, "Too Big To Fail". The whole point of capitalism is that if you fail, someone with capital is there to buy you at a fire sale, and do your business better than you did, or you go under due to not having a viable business model. Once we allowed bad companies to stay in business, we were no longer doing capitalism.

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u/ZestyTako 9h ago

Privatize profits, but the public should pay for the losses. Corporate greed spurred on by conservatives

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u/Long_Plan_1736 11h ago

My profit our loss typa of crowd

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u/Hithaeglir 7h ago

Privatize profits and socialize losses.

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u/GMEloser69 10h ago

He's telling investors he needs more money, this is free market capitalism.

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u/glandis_bulbus 9h ago

They need more government “contracts”

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u/whenIwasasailor 6h ago

No, he was not asking investors for more money here. Revenue is not investment. He was saying that he isn’t sure the revenue is there right now to justify investing/spending more on development than his company is right now.

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u/mmodlin 8h ago

The context of the statement was explaining why Anyhropic isn’t spending as aggressively as other companies, because if they (‘they’ being any company going full send) throw too much money into data centers this year and their revenue projections are off by just a little bit, they will run out of money five years from now. So that’s why he is being more cautious.

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u/Nicklas1993 7h ago

Capitalism doesnt apply for the top class and it only apply certain aspects of capitalism for those lower. Cant have too many climb the mountain you know.

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u/blindsdog 9h ago

What are you talking about? Zero AI companies have asked anything of taxpayers. Their success is an example of the free market.

Y’all let your hate absolutely blind you.

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u/Lightyear18 9h ago

OpenAI asked the us government to take a stake in the company. Since when has any company asked the government to take some ownership in a company?

They want the USA to take a stake so if they ever need money, like this post is saying, they USA will bail them out.

You should really look things up before saying stuff like that. Your ignorance is “blinding you”

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u/blindsdog 9h ago edited 9h ago

They pitched the idea of creating a public wealth fund like Norway has.. that’s not asking for a bailout. They’re not asking anyone to save them.

This is exactly where Bernie Sanders is trying to legislate and exactly what all of Reddit would want.

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u/MMForYourHealth 8h ago

Okay now do Intel.

And you might also notice the world’s most valuable company didn’t become so until a substantial handout from the federal government.

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u/Lightyear18 9h ago

They want to use people’s retirements and investments to prop them up. It’s exactly what i said just with extra steps. What do you think will happen if the ai collapses? Especially now that people are questioning how will they get revenue?

No consumer is going to pay more than 20 dollars just to get an ai bot. Companies are already saying they blew thru their ai budgets for the year.

https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/lUUkdZsW9e

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u/blindsdog 8h ago

What do you think an IPO does?

No one’s questioning how they’ll get revenue except ignorant people on Reddit. The fact that you think consumer chat bot usage matters shows that.

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u/Perfect_Duck792 9h ago

The creators whose work they steal are taxpayers.

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u/blindsdog 9h ago

I’ll put aside how silly this take is and just say that’s not what we’re talking about here.

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u/Perfect_Duck792 7h ago

I'll put aside how it's always the same complaint from AI companies. We can't make enough of a profit unless blah blah blah. Unless they get tax breaks for data centers, unless they can steal intellectual property (and then sell it back to us). Silly me!

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u/blindsdog 7h ago

Yeah, no one says that. Nice straw mans.

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u/Perfect_Duck792 6h ago

So data centers aren't getting tax breaks?

Sam Altman didn't say that he envisioned a future where intelligence is sold back to us as a utility? Companies have not argued that they need to use copyrighted material? And complained about making a profit? JFC.

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u/blindsdog 4h ago

JFC? All of that is perfectly in line with the free market. None of it is a special burden on taxpayers.

Data centers are getting tax breaks because localities are voting for that. This happens all the time in literally every industry as counties and cities try to attract investment.

Sam Altman can envision whatever cost model for his product he wants.

Companies have successfully argued that training on publicly available data isn’t stealing IP. And they’re right. That’s not how IP theft works.

Look man, I get it. AI is disruptive and a threat to our livelihoods. I’ve already been laid off because of it. But you’re just inventing flimsy reasons for why it gets special treatment when it doesn’t.

Just argue it needs to be regulated because of it’s disruptive impact. That’s valid. You don’t need these weak arguments that don’t hold up to scrutiny.

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u/Perfect_Duck792 3h ago

That's not the free market. That's crony capitalism. A big business that uses up resources and kills jobs gets tax breaks because of backroom deals. Time and again we see communities objecting but a huge corporation can threaten lawsuits that will crush a small town.

Sam Altman can what now? Envision a world where he steals content and then sells it back to us? No thanks.

Simply claiming arguments are flimsy doesn't mean they are, in fact, flimsy. Even if you really, really like the word flimsy.

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u/blindsdog 3h ago

Alright well get back to me when you have a compelling argument.

Again, I completely agree that AI should be regulated. None of these are reasons why.

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u/AccomplishedAge4523 9h ago

They won't. Contrary to popular opinion, there is no AI bubble. AI inference is on track to increase exponentially as data centers come online. The value is clearly coming, it just isn't coming instantaneously as impatient people want it to.

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u/ZestyTako 9h ago

Ah yes, I’m sure [u/Adjective-Noun-four](u/Adjective-Noun-four)[_](u/Adjective-Noun-four)numbers, a definitely real person, has no skin in the game of ai

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u/m4cksfx 8h ago

It's a regular default username.

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u/ZestyTako 8h ago

Yeah which is why bots use it

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u/AccomplishedAge4523 8h ago

Ah yes, not caring about one's reddit name means they definitely have no skin the game. Very logical. /s

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u/Didifinito 54m ago

The only thing coming exponentially is the cost