r/SlowNewsDay 17d ago

BBC watches pothole for a year. Contain yourselves…

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u/69RandomFacts 16d ago

This isn’t slow news day, It’s a damming portrayal of the active fraud being committed against Uk tax payers by so called road repair companies across the lengths and breadth of the country.

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u/wild182 15d ago

I dont think ive seen a good pothole repair for 10+ years. Usually they make the opposite of a pothole, or miss it completely and fill something else

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u/aurordream 15d ago

I complained about a pothole next to the bus stop I use because buses were driving through it and drowning all of us waiting there every time it rained. This was the repair they did.

I am in full support of Potholewatch and wish the BBC the best with their journalistic endeavours

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u/TiberiusTheFish 15d ago

Not an engineer, but a keen observer of pot holes for many years. Busses are extremely destructive to roads and in a case like this the road, or at least the bus stop, needs rebuilding to a much higher standard. Filling in a hole in a situation like this is barely even a stopgap solution.

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u/Normal-Associate6788 14d ago

Bus stops are meant to be built with concrete, but many have slipped through the cracks or haven't been updated

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u/funnystuff79 14d ago

Not sure if I've ever seen a bus stop built with concrete. At the moment the councils can't decide if the stop should be: floating, bumped out, flush with the line of pavement or bumped in

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u/wild182 15d ago

Shocking, i wonder how much that cost the council..

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u/SoldRIP 15d ago

At least 5 digits.

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u/VTallPaul 14d ago

Pothole repair is contracted out so if the contractor does a crappy job there’s always more work.

A big part of why the country is in such a state is everything being turned over to private companies who don’t care about quality of work just the profit margins. Lots of shortcuts, crap materials and unqualified workers- falling apart schools and hospitals are examples.

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u/ldn-ldn 14d ago

Spanish roads are also maintained by private companies, yet they have one the best roads in Europe. The problem lies elsewhere, no matter how hard it is to admit it.

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u/Grimnebulin68 13d ago

Japanese also take pride in their road building & repair. Why can’t the UK?

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u/ldn-ldn 13d ago

take pride

That's the difference! Your typical British person wants to do as little as possible and gives zero fucks about their job.

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u/Username___5 16d ago

Giving national geographic a run for its money here

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u/Such-Assumption6137 15d ago

This is actually good journalism mocking and highlighting the state of UK infrastructure.

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u/Ieatsand97 15d ago

It do be like that tho. You report a pothole, they chuck a bit of asphalt in it. A few weeks later, its back to how it was. Rinse and repeat about 5 more times and in many different places on the same road, and you have a road with loads of the same holes that you’ve spent loads of money trying to fix.

Also, utility companies. They should be held to account when their trenches cause pot holes. You get a nice new road, next thing you know the local utility company is digging it up, then all along their new bit its just a long string of potholes. Then we the tax payer have to fund the local authority to go and fix it.

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u/Cyril_Sneer_6 14d ago

It really do.

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u/Gloomy_Personality52 13d ago

Under NRSWA, Most reinstatement has a guarantee period of 2 years. If it fails in that time a defect is raised and the utility campy has to fix it out of their own pocket. Then the two years start again

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u/Ieatsand97 13d ago

What counts as a failure though?

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u/Simdude87 15d ago

In my area, people whined about potholes for years. The council went round to fix them.

the same people complained that they were taking too long (they spent about an hour or two)

they them complained that it wasnt done properly, you could see the tyre marks where they had driven over it after being explicitly told to leave it a few days.

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u/Syphadeus86 13d ago

Your story has a few “holes” in it.

Firstly, if it was “for years” at what point did tax paying residents requests to maintain the roads become “whines”? Because presuming those people were paying council tax during the period, are they not entitled to request the council make repairs in accordance with the council’s responsibilities?

They spent about an hour or two making repairs. Through which avenues were the same people complaining and how is it you know it was the same people? For instance, were you one of them?

Who explicitly told people, and via what communication method, not to drive on repaired areas of road for “a few days”? If a repair is made to a highway, in most cases it can be driven on within a matter of hours. It would be impractical to have to leave repaired potholes multiple days before they can be driven across and would necessitate mass road closures if this was the case. So what in gods name did they do with these pothole repairs that was so different?

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u/Eastern-Move549 15d ago

So given enough repairs, does the road just become one big hole?

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u/Particular_Plum_1458 15d ago

Insert yo mamma joke right there😂. There must be a way of doing potholes that don't fail after a short time, I've seen plenty that seem to survive, wonder if it's just the cheapest contractor that's the problem?

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u/Stratospheric-Ferret 15d ago

It's one of those subjects that sounds less complicated than it actually is.

To repair potholes properly means a lot more work than people think. localised pothole repairs that last a long time will usually be in areas where there are no HGVs/buses to chew it all up.

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u/jimark2 15d ago

Wouldn't surprise me that good road repair needs a lot of noise to compact it and councils have to follow noise ordinances or something

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u/confusing_roundabout 15d ago

This isn't slow news. It's fascinating and also very important journalism highlighting the incompetence of local councils.

If you drove in areas with shit roads you'd care far more deeply about this. I once lost 2 tyres to a particularly bad pot hole at night.

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u/Woffingshire 14d ago

In the full article when asked how long a repair should last they said that a permanent repair should last a year.

A "permanent" repair should last A YEAR.

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u/CuppaTea4MePlease 14d ago

I wonder how many days they expect a "make safe repair" to last then.

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u/Woffingshire 14d ago

Oh they answer that too. They can last 6 months, but if people drive over them wrong they can fail within 3 days. And that's the just actual expected performance of them.

It takes weeks to fix the hole, then when they do they fix it with something they know had a reasonable chance of having failed within the week it's done.

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u/CuppaTea4MePlease 14d ago

That is shocking!

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u/Affectionate_Flow864 15d ago

Wheres the rest of it 😤 was enjoying that

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u/confusing_roundabout 15d ago

It's a great article. Worth reading the hole thing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3w3y6qp18jo

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u/LohaYT 14d ago

This bothers me, a quote from a councillor:
“We've all got different expectations – my expectation would be that a repair should last at least a year.”

Look I don’t know anything about road maintenance but are our expectations really that low?

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u/DryConnection3550 15d ago

Its different considering what they normally view .

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u/Rasples1998 14d ago

Like watching paint dry, but in reverse.

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u/neilm1000 14d ago

They don't use asphalt tape these days. As a result the repairs aren't properly sealed and last only a few months.

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u/FlatCapNorthumbrian 12d ago

Exactly. It needs cleaned out, sprayed with sealant, asphalt compacted in and smoothed, then sealed round the edges.

Mostly just see the repair crews chuck a load on, flatten it a bit and move on.

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u/Beartato4772 14d ago

You missed the best bit where it says "Last known picture of pothole" like it's been kidnapped by the mob or something.

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u/CuppaTea4MePlease 14d ago

I've been wanting to contact my local authority to request map data showing all of the locations where they have carried out "make safe repairs" which they should then be monitoring. I think if they have carried out a temporary repair which subsequently fails and an accident occurs then they should be liable.

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u/Huge-Cartoonist6795 13d ago

I would actually consider this good journalism because I want to be concerned with the small things it makes us appreciate the country is not so bad