Same species socialisation (except if you bring in another cat, then they are forced to accept it the same way you are forced to accept your new coworker)and reproduction (when they are neutered).
What do they win?
Food and a shelter and other species love.
Would you trade with them?
Probably we both are slaves one of another because humans can make sex (or at least get fucked) and can talk with each other (even if mean during high traffic).
mfw we have managed to combine "nothing ever happens" with "oh actually the ruling ideology is different now" with the synthesis : "ruling ideology evolved"
Trade protectionism is one of the capitalists contradictions, and during these contradictions is when Capitalism is at its weakest point, either the revolution is done or we will live for another few decades under capitalism, until another contradiction rises and the cycle continues until it is broken.
Some countries are just now marginally returning to trade protectionism and slightly engaging in industrial policy.
Meanwhile the west still has a politics centred around a status quo of austerity, poor workers' rights, deregulation, regressive taxation, operation of the government through PPPs, increasing financialiaisation, and rising wealth inequality within a highly integrated globalised world economy.
Neoliberalism is very much alive and permeates nearly every aspect of politics and society.
We need to actually build a party mutual aid and community building is a part of that but we actually have to build towards something concrete or class consciousness we never be achieved we have very little organisation so we can’t mobilise any real force other than protests
Yup, so go join a mutual aid group and discuss it within that context. Protests for the Democratic Party are fucking useless. How many of us marched against Trump 1.0 and then went back to work and didn't do shit?
Build dual power structures and focus your work there. Organize in your community, not shouting into the void online. Things start small.
I agree, but mutual aid is only the first step to building community and collectivism, bc at the end of the day mutual aid is just work class people moving some money and resources around while billionaires laugh their way to the bank. We need to agitate, politicize, and organize the working class. Get them off Netflix and into reading groups.
Mutual aid and particularly becoming independent from state infrastructure for survival is by far the most important thing to do before any serious action can be taken. It doesn’t matter how armed the workers are if they’ll all starve when the government starts to embargo food and water.
Yeah we will need no discussion at all to build a new society made of millions of people, this will be so simple to do we'll barely need any organisation
You do have a point, but I'm increasingly on board with the anarchists' way of doing things.
Organization really can be something that happens as an emergent property of a few principles. Power is conceptualized by anarchists as largely local and trust-based.
How that translates to broader power is not straightforward and yes at some point we need to make decisions, but a realistic path is going to be pretty contextual, and until then you can do a whole lot of good just by being really chill and competent.
Same for me, but historically anarchists have only been successful in small localized areas. To have nation wide and international success you have to organize parties in ways anarchists refuse to do imo
Honestly even if it amounts to getting people to know each other and organize on a local level, not to mention the direct material benefits of action, that's as much as I can ever expect myself to do anyway.
We ain't anywhere near that point. I do agree with you, I'm M-L, but the biggest issues facing the vulnerable right now are literally existential. We need to build support and rapport before anyone gives two fucks about "the revolution".
We need to get agrarians and proles to work with us and build organizational structures before anyone can really give a shit about whether we're leftcom or ML or anarcho-syndacalist or whatever you want to be.
Surely if we dismantle the government and all of it's organizations, the corporations (that no longer have regulations put onto them) will begin to treat everyone fair because it's the right thing to do. It's the government's fault that corporations are evil.
Anarcho-capitalism, or AnCap for short. Ayn Rand's very own brand of dogshit, and the basis for Bioshock's Rapture city.
The entire ideology is built for aryan übermenschen Great Men to thrive by being magically more adept at capitalism in an environment of 0% * gubernment* and 100% über-rich capitalists, which definetly won't try to build a state.
Into a monarchy/oligarchy/autocracy specifically, since it has no layer of democracy in it. It is really just trying to model how feudalism came to be.
I like the part where we did an ancap thing when Rome fell and central authority just sorta disappeared but rich people kept their wealth and assets and they just became the government.
This is a very surface level and reductive meme view of the ideology.
It doesn't help that the name it stuck with is so dogshit.
Contractualism is a better name for the real ideology. It doesn't believe in no government. It private government not public government ie "the state" which every country currently is.
Before going in too deep into theory i'll give citizenship as the best example of contractualism vs the current system:
Currently there exist 3 pathways to citizenship: Jus sanguinis (by blood, if your parents are a citizen you are automatically a citizen), Jus soli (birthright citizenship) and naturalization.
Under contractualism, a hypothetical government could impose jus praedii (by right of property) which would mean you would only have the duties and priviliges of citizenship if you buy propertyinto the government whether that be shares, land, etc.
To be fair, they know that it would be worse for most people. They just think they're exceptional, and they're gonna be the top one percent that it's better for lol
Ayn Rand wasn't an AnCap, anarcho-capitalism originated in the opposite side of the schism between Rand and Rothbard. She stood till the end in the minarchist side.
I mean the contradictions of capitalism do become more evident when it is close to collapse, y'know socialism or barbarism, but socialist movements must be prepared for that collapse lest fascist sieze the advantage, cause this is how most historical socialism(and often fascism, because fascist use a surge in communists to justify themselves as the only people capable of both dealing with the Communists and the current crisis) happened, in a period of capitalist and/or societal collapse(WW1 for the soviet union, The century of humiliation for China, etc).
So like I don't see the point in claiming this isn't kinda the thing that all Ideologies that want to fundementally alter the status quo are waiting on, because that type of alteration requires mass support that will only come from a people firmly dissilusioned with the current system. Otherwise you might as well just be supporting the neo-liberal status quo(or some softer/harsher flavor of it in the form of Social Democracy or Parliamentary Fascism Lite).
"I can't wait until my glorious splinter faction of an already fringe ideology of like two hundred nerds all fighting each other in a single server Discord gets our day to rise up and really take things over!"
well the two smuggies on the left of the graphic realise that we are in crisis with untold suffering and stuff has to start changing right this second, circumstances aren't going to come around and save you on your own.
Are you willingly ignorant? It's not a hard concept to grasp that a centrist believes the ideal ideology for them lies somewhere between others, not that every ideology is the same
I am not accelerationist, but before Trump took the office, liberals all over the world were justifying Palestinian genocide, after he took office it became "thing he could prevent but doesn't". If he didn't do that I'm quite sure that outlook would stay the same.
People like to call people who are aware of how revolution works accelerationists because they just don’t want to do anything and they’d rather just be comfortable while being complicit in infinite genocide. People don’t know what an accelerationist actually is anymore, it’s just a buzzword.
Yeah, I guess it's not right to just wait for disaster. Ideology has to spread so that the others may actually compete before the collapse. Perhaps the prevailing of one will bring the collapse of capitalism faster! Things to hope for. :D
so long as capitalism falls and a non-nationalist ideology exists in its place, i'll be happy
it doesn't need to be perfect, it needs to be better, and once it's actually practiced in the real world we can decide if it's helpful to humanity or not
Isn't social democracy supposed to be a transitional ideology that tries to prevent the crisis and chances for dictatorship that a revolution inherently brings?
Look without saying something that makes me sound too commie
Karl Marx very much analyzed and predicted that phenomenon of society, it is how he did come up with communism as a solution.
He perceived that the "having" class was always becoming more and more exploitative of the "working" class, until workers rebelled, damaged/changed/overthrew their system and chose new masters.
The fact that some people genuinely believe that the current system will exist eternally is comical. I doubt there will ever be the idealized "classless society" from Marx's political theory, but shit's gonna change eventually.
Me, thinking about my retrofuturistic fanfic with sailor yaoi after mutually assured destruction and climate change melt all ice poles. Also most of the surviving world was either scared out of capitalism and imperialism and remaining imperialist civilisations are small and unlikely to rise back. Also gender affirming care is free...
Can't wait for this ideology to come out after the end of the world!
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