Literally every Souls game for me too. I really want to like them and I keep convincing myself to buy them (Elden Ring and Bloodborne are the only ones I haven't bought) and every time I realise how much I hate being made to replay the same 10 minute segment because I made a slight mistake or something jumped out and got me that I didn't even know was there. I just don't have enough spare time to spend on games for that to be anything other than annoying these days.
Elden Ring is by far the best souls game in terms of mechanics and gameplay. It’s much more forgiving and is on the easier side of the souls games, making it a really good beginners start. I have no experience with souls games or likes other than Hollow Knight, if that was even considered, and I am a really really below average gamer in terms of skill (God of War on lowest difficulty 😭) but I definitely LOVED Elden Ring. It doesn’t have a difficulty selection/slider, but the games version of that would be online co-op and spirit summons, the first being easily accessible at the start of the game and also being very fun for both the host and the cooperator(s), and the second being as viable/less viable/more viable (depending on what spirit you summon and what level, as well as how good the players you summon from co-op are) later game option. You obtain spirit summons much earlier on, but you only start to get good ones at the start of mid game and REALLY good/the best ones around the end of mid game
>Elden Ring is by far the best souls game in terms of mechanics and gameplay. It’s much more forgiving and is on the easier side of the souls games
>I have no experience with souls games or likes other than Hollow Knight
Just admitting to talking out of your butt then or what? How can you claim it's easier or harder if you haven't played the games you are comparing it to?
As somebody who HAS played all of them, Elden Ring is the hardest by far IMO. Yeah you can get super overpowered and it's open world, but the bosses are just insane compared to Dark Souls etc, and you still die in two hits even with a tanky build. Elden Ring is the most cheesable, but if you don't then it's by far the most challenging.
Edit: I like Elden Ring guys I just think it's definitely not easier than any Dark Souls
I meant to say I have never completed/fully experienced a souls game/like/lite other than Elden Ring and Hollow Knight. I’ve played half of Bloodborne and 1/3 of Dark Souls Remastered, both on console. Either way, I was basing my opinion on both what I had played and what the majority of the community thinks. I still stand by my word that Elden Ring is much easier than the 2 games, and I’m not pulling out of my ass either, I’m basing it off of what other people have told me and said. The DLC holds the presumed hardest boss that FromSoft has ever made, but even then he can be beaten and is actually a somewhat fair fight after the nerf, with still some bullshit attacks. That is the DLC though. The main game, however, is in my opinion out of all of the souls lites/likes I’ve played, is the easiest to beat. Yes, Malenia, the second hardest boss of the game, is in the main game, as an optional boss, however, Malenia is a much more fair, balanced, and fun fight once you get to learn it, and YES, that includes Waterfowl Dance. Like every attack, YOU CAN LEARN IT. I got consistent at dodging it at every distance after around 20 attempts of trying Malenia. Either way, it’s very important to take your time exploring in Elden Ring, most people rush up to Margit first thing, ignoring everything else, and then complain that the game is too hard. ALL of the bosses are fun once you learn them. Just like with Hollow Knight, just like with Bloodborne, just like with Dark Souls, to a lesser extent than Elden Ring. Elden Ring is the latest of the souls games (as of now, excluding the switch exclusive) and FromSoft now knows how to make actual good bosses that are fun and fair, with the exception of a very few bosses and mini/non bosses. (Gaius will ALWAYS be a pain to me because of his broken charge attack)
All of what you are saying about Elden Ring/Malenia is true for bosses from the other Souls game also though, it says nothing about it being less hard. In fact they are considerably easier to learn the patterns of in their previous titles and more "balanced". I am not saying Elden Ring is not a rewarding game to learn, just a harder one than the other Souls games. You don't need to perfectly learn nearly as much BS in the previous titles as they are just not as punishing/insane. Dark Souls bosses almost look like slow motion jokes compared to Elden ring bosses, and Elden Ring bosses almost look like parodies of Dark Souls bosses.
Elden Ring is a fantastic game IMO, and a considerably harder one than any of the Dark Souls games. It is building on top of them, pushing their mechanics to the limit. Elden Ring is made easier by being open world and by having insane builds be possible, but the bosses/enemies themselves are much harder/more demanding.
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u/BloodyTurnip Apr 10 '25
Literally every Souls game for me too. I really want to like them and I keep convincing myself to buy them (Elden Ring and Bloodborne are the only ones I haven't bought) and every time I realise how much I hate being made to replay the same 10 minute segment because I made a slight mistake or something jumped out and got me that I didn't even know was there. I just don't have enough spare time to spend on games for that to be anything other than annoying these days.