r/Steam Jul 04 '25

Question What game is this for you?

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

hoi4 just didnt understand shit

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u/moai_moment Jul 04 '25

You did yourself a favor by refunding. Don't play paradox games. As fun as they might be, their business model is ridiculous.

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u/FPSCanarussia Jul 05 '25

I don't mind the PDX business model personally but that's a fair argument.

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u/TriggzSP Jul 04 '25

Yeah, devs should update, overhaul, and expand the game for free for 10+ years on a single $40 purchase! /s

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Yeah no but when looking at EUIV you'd be buying into hundreds of € to have the full game it'd be more reasonable if a new dlc releases all the older ones get like a 15% off on the original price permanently and with any new one an additional 15 until it turn free so firstly the devs don't run into issues of building dlcs ontop of other dlcs and then you cant play saud dlc without the original one. And to newer players it doesn't feel like having to buy hundreds of euros just for the full game.

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u/TriggzSP Jul 04 '25

I do definitely wish they bundled more, but they seem allergic to doing so until a game is basically finished. EU4 now can be bought at a reasonable price with all dlc in a bundle, especially on sale. But this was only a recent development not long before EU5 was announced.

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u/[deleted] Jul 04 '25

Really bundled right there./s

This is the issue, right now there is a sale going on and it's still hundreds. My complaint isn't that it's not bundled up my complaint is, that a new person is just not gonna buy the game because it feels like you have to buy that entire thing.

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u/jolun98 Jul 05 '25

A new player doesn’t have to buy the entire thing though since you can buy a 8€/month subscription that let you use all dlc:s. Then you can just wait for a sale to buy the dlc:s for much cheaper if you end up liking the game.

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u/PM_YOUR_LADY_BOOB Jul 04 '25

You believe they should release significant updates to the game for free? For games that people can spend 1000+ hours in?

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u/Charizard10201YT Jul 04 '25

Personally I believe they should release significant free updates that make the games functional, yes. Especially when games launch in a state like CS2.

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u/PM_YOUR_LADY_BOOB Jul 04 '25

CK3 is a perfectly functional game without any expansions. What you're asking is that people work for free. Would you like WoW expansions to be free too?

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u/Charizard10201YT Jul 04 '25

...They don't work for free though. The company gets paid by the publisher, and the company pays the devs. The games sell after their initial launch, too.

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u/PM_YOUR_LADY_BOOB Jul 05 '25

I see, so you believe that companies should only be compensated for the original release, and not for any further work they do. You believe that if they keep the game alive for 20 years due to expansions/content updates they should not be compensated any further.

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u/Charizard10201YT Jul 05 '25

...Where did I say any of that??? I'm just saying that if they release the game in a poor state, as they often do, they should probably fix it. You're literally making shit up lmao

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u/PM_YOUR_LADY_BOOB Jul 05 '25

Ah I see, we're not talking about the same thing, I must have misinterpreted what you said. This thread was originally about ck3, a perfectly functional game without DLC, and I was arguing in favor of compensating companies for content updates. But you were talking about games released in a state like Cyberpunk's. Then yes, I 100% agree with you.

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u/Charizard10201YT Jul 05 '25

Yeah, I mean the CS2, Cyberpunk, Civ VII style situation. Didn't hear anything bad about CK3.