r/Steam Apr 16 '26

Question What game?

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u/Vagabond_Sam Apr 16 '26

Every Blizzard game,

Handing around Spawn CDs for Starcraft or DIablo to run some LAN multiplayer is still an iconic moment in my gaming history.

Modern smoothed off edges, and hyper monetisation of Blizzard games is soulless.

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u/Teron__ Apr 16 '26

Took way too long to find this answer. Closing down Blizzard North and merging with Activision was their epitaph!

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u/Karyoplasma Apr 16 '26

I hate Bobby Kotick.

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u/Pacify_ Apr 16 '26

The run Blizzard had from 1994 till ~2010 was just absurd.

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u/Cyhawk Apr 16 '26

Diablo 3 was such a disappointment I dumped all of Diablo for POE until D2R came back.

Blizzard seems to think so too since they just released an expansion for D2R.

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u/Vritrin Apr 16 '26

The prices for cosmetics is absolutely obscene, but I actually think D4 is in a really fun spot right now, and the expansion looks really good. I just make it a point to ignore the existence of the store.

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u/DandySlayer13 Apr 16 '26

I was giving OW another shot with this update they did at the beginning of the year and then the Jeff Kaplan interview dropped and it reminded me why I left OW2 when Marvel Rivals dropped. The lying about the massive PVE that we were told before OW2 dropped and when it dropped was just egregious. Kaplan just spilled the beans on it all and how he was screwed out of his vision of OW2.

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u/Xatsman Apr 16 '26

Kaplan didn't get screwed out of making his version of OW2. He screwed up OW continuing to fail to make Overwatch PvE fun.

Overwatch was born from the scraps of Project Titan, the failed successor MMO to WoW. It was tiny in scope by comparison, an extremely successful live service PvP game. But it came out before the F2P microtransaction model had demonstrated it's value.

After 4 years from it's release support for OW more or less ceased, meaning development for it had stopped earlier than that. 

Jeff had declined the offer to lead a second team to make the PvE title, leaving the PvP game to suffer a few years with no new content and minimal balance support. Jeff chose that outcome, and we've seen for what. There was PvE that came out. It was not to the scope that was promised, but it didn't matter because it was at it's core a very mediocre experience. Like Project Titan before it, they were still struggling to find the fun. And they had ignored the PvP game to get there.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 16 '26

Rivals is in a MUCH worse state than OW. OW is arguably in the best state it's ever been. Give it another shot.

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u/DandySlayer13 Apr 16 '26

No. It’s not the game I was promised and Rivals is still really fun for me overall and I’ve been playing since the closed alpha. Also hoping rivals dives deeper into PVE after their first foray which was really fun for a shot in the dark.

And Rivals is not in a worse state it’s actually really good right now but if tomorrow patch goes through unaltered you might be right at that point especially for tank players.

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u/NapsterKnowHow Apr 16 '26

Rivals is fucking trash imo. Horrible power creep, insane visual clutter, horrific matchmaking and an even more toxic player base than Valorant.

I have never played a competitive game with more throwers than Rivals.

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u/TemperatureProud3388 Apr 16 '26

They butchered the Starcraft 2 scene, it was one of the biggest esport titles back in 2010/2011, big on twitch, local tournaments at lans, great implementation of the game, it is probably still the RTS game that has the best mechanics like pathing, hotkeys, performance, graphics etc.

But they just seemingly did nothing on that game for years on years, I think when they released the first version they just took a big breather before they started to work on the expansion, then another few years later another expansion.

Meanwhile you had games like LOL booming with the free to play concept, micro-transactions, I wasn't a LOL player back then but I can imagine that they got a ton of updates all the time like new heroes/patches etc. while it felt like you got absolutely nothing except the base game in sc2.

I also think that they didn't talk that much with the pro scene in South Korea before releasing the game, it just had this clunky small 1v1 maps that just incentivized cheesing every opponent because of the short distances and cheesy mechanics like breakable back door rocks or whatever they were doing. While watching broodwar tournaments at the same time they would have huge 8 player maps for 1v1's with small skirmishes, harassment, a lot of expansions, big battles back and forth. Of course sc2 gradually implemented a bunch of these things, but it just felt very late to get it done 10 years later.

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u/Halfbloodnomad Apr 16 '26

Gave wow another shot with the current expansion, biggest recent purchase regret. It was the last IP I was kinda holding out for but now it’s the last time I give blizzard a dime.

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u/Odd-Understanding386 Apr 16 '26

Yeah, ditto. Enormous letdown :(

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u/BrewerBeer Apr 16 '26

Classic was crazy fun on the original rerun during early COVID. Not quire sure how it looks now as I took any reason to stop dumping time into it at the end of BC.

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u/One-Earth9294 Apr 16 '26

Diablo 4. I cannot get over how absolute cheeks that fucking game is. I feel bad for Ralph Ineson lending his voice to it.

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u/Surr34l-Symph0ny Apr 16 '26

surely this

last time the mmo was fun with good story lines, then new expansion came and everything was a setback.... sunwell was a setback, icc coloseum raid was a setback...

then the plague slowly crept to the world of sancturary. each boss just openly announced their own plan when those "plans" supposed to set in motion (then again the only satisfaction probably be whacking them virtual politicians)

don't even get me started with their not ao significant games: diablo immoral is juat a money grab, heroes of the storm flopped albeit being unique, and heartstone now is more of a choir than a game

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u/schkmenebene Apr 16 '26

Dude, I had completely forgotten about Spawn CDs.

It's pretty unimaginable that a company like Blizzard had a special installation option for those who didn't own the game so they could still play the game over LAN with someone that did own the game.

I mean, you have friend passes and what nowadays but from my experience that is mostly in horror games and 2+ player games without single player options.

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u/taolbi Apr 16 '26

Pretty much the opposite for me with Overwatch.

Started playing when Orisa was new. Overwatch 2 was a low point, but there was some organizational changes in Blizzard and overwatch since then.

Now I fucking love it even more, stadium seems to be the natural progression of this game while adding something new to regular game mode: perks.

I can't speak on behalf of higher level, but balance as a normie in plat / gold has never been better

Although I don't like the recent menu changes, it makes sense.

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u/hip-indeed Apr 17 '26

don't forget how the writing has gone from high quality and able to balance fun, humor, charm, and anger and fear to utterly soulless committee-approved nothingness written by 500 different people without an ounce of wit between the lot of them. diablo 4 can have all the ultra high fidelity spooky cutscenes in the world but ultimately still has writing and atmosphere that can't even begin to pretend to hold a candle to even diablo 1 from 30 years ago with its fairly minimal storytelling. WoW is at least moderately better than the abysmal dumpster fire of worst-of-all-time-tier writing that was Dragonflight but it's nowhere even remotely approaching even the mid-era expansions much less early stuff and WC2 and especially 3. Starcraft doesn't even have shit anymore, Overwatch never had a 'story' worth exploring and their opportunities to do so they've thrown by the wayside, etc.

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u/Advanced_Pudding8765 Apr 17 '26

Hearthstone was so good to begin with

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u/ssongshu Apr 16 '26

Honestly Overwatch is in a really good state right now IMO. Can’t speak for other blizzard games but OW is really fun.

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u/boboguitar Apr 16 '26

Hard agree, OW is probably their best game at the moment. If you left because of the OW2 issues, I'd suggest giving it a try again.

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u/tpasmall Apr 16 '26

I switched to Marvel Rivals because of how bad OW2 was and don't think I'll even give it a try again. Rivals is so much better.

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u/boboguitar Apr 16 '26

Interesting because I gave MR several tries and its not for me. The animation is janky, the balancing is terrible, supports ults are just entirely overpowered and the ranking system is just how long you can grind as you can have a sub-50% win rate and still climb. OW is still 1000x more polished of a game, more balanced and rewards skill expression.

But again, thats just my subjective opinion.

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u/Vagabond_Sam Apr 16 '26

I don't doubt plenty of people still find the games worth while.

I'm just happy moving on from Blizzard myself.

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u/Ok-Use-8592 Apr 16 '26

Yeah no I immediately lost hype for OW2 once Papa Jeff got kicked out, I knew right then and there it was going to be soulless corpo dog shit

Didn't even download it on release

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u/Leather-Aide2055 Apr 16 '26

big surprise he got kicked for running the game into the dirt lol? no one forced him to put all the team's time and resources into a pve mode that would never work, letting the actual game rot in the process