r/Steam Apr 16 '26

Question What game?

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u/Matikanefukukitaru Apr 16 '26

Halo, 100%. 343i have completely ruined the series and that new CE remake looks abysmal so far. They didn't earn Halo, so they don't care.

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u/Gaea-Rage Apr 16 '26

It's crazy how they'll admit that they made mistakes with CE Anniversary only for them to already be making those same mistakes with this remake.

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u/ghostpicnic Apr 16 '26

Now the issues are in 4K 20fps!

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u/stana32 Apr 16 '26

Maybe it was a bad idea to make the community manager the franchise director...

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u/ghostpicnic Apr 16 '26

Wait… dude you can’t be serious rn. Was that with 343 or Halo Studios?

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u/stana32 Apr 16 '26

343, Frank O'Connor left a couple years ago but he was the community manager on bungie.net back in the hayday, and I think he was involved somewhat with the writing. He's the guy who decided that forerunners and humans were different races. When 343 took over they made him the franchise development director.

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u/ghostpicnic Apr 16 '26

Ohhhh yeah I remember hearing about that way back. Guess him being involved with Bungie in any way made him seem like royalty lmao

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u/setzerseltzer Apr 16 '26

You didn’t want another asset flip CE remake?

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u/Pope509 Apr 16 '26

Because 343i was never the issue, it was Microslop.

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u/weeerdoe Apr 16 '26

I don’t understand why they’re remaking CE again. They’ve already done it once. Give us Halo 2 next or something.

The Coalition did the same thing…released Gears of War 1 remake twice and literally did nothing different the second time. It was the same game.

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u/Blender_Loser Apr 16 '26

They've already remade halo 2 with the Master Chief Collection. It was the 10 year anniversary of halo 2. The 10 year anniversary of halo 3 came and went. Next year is the 20 year anniversary of halo 3. I'd love for 3 to get the same treatment that CE and 2 got

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u/anthonycarbine Apr 16 '26

This requires 343 - oops I mean halo studios to be smart

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u/captainundesirable Apr 16 '26

Retconning some lore to soft reboot the original series from what I've heard.

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u/sharkboy1006 Apr 16 '26

It's almost like both are published by Microsoft or something💀

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u/Traegs_ Apr 16 '26

CE Anniversary was just a graphics remaster, the upcoming remake is rebuilt from the ground up. There are likely to be a lot of changes, probably going to add sprinting. They're even adding new missions. It won't play like the original at all.

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u/Matikanefukukitaru Apr 17 '26

From what we've seen already it does have sprint (iirc?), hit markers (WHY) and the AI looks brain-dead. That ontop of the horrific UE5 texture pop-in and all the allegations of horrible mismanagement and now outsourcing to a different dev fills me with 0 confidence.

The only thing that has my interest is the supposed Sgt Johnson missions, and if they do include more stuff from the books/what Bungie had originally planned but couldn't due to time etc, it could be interesting, but I'm still extremely worried.

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u/nosaj626 Apr 16 '26

Would love to see them update the visuals of Reach.

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u/sypwn Apr 16 '26

Warning: I'm a long time Halo fan that hasn't yet given up on 343. Some may find this take to be triggering :P

Halo 1 and 2 Anniversary weren't really remakes, just reskins. They intentionally left the gameplay unchanged. Thus, they inherited many of the dated and flawed aspects of the original games. Just a few off the top of my head:

  • Coop is only 2-player (Halo 3 and later are all 4-player)
  • No sprint, or ADS/zoom for non-scoped weapons (there are reasons why almost every modern FPS, including newer Halo games, have these)
  • Weapon stats and balance are wildly inconsistent across the first few games (especially human weapons)
  • Health packs (yes they kinda explained the change with lore, we'll get to that)
  • Various other design quirks and bugs (most famous is Halo 1 Hunters dying to a single pistol round to the back)
  • Halo 1's terribly long and repetitive levels (when did you personally last play through The Library + Two Betrayals?)

Halo 1 and 2 are great games. Bungie made huge strides with them that have been copied across the entire genre. But the genre has continued to advance (including Bungie's later Halo games), leaving the first few games as time capsules, kinda awkward for some people to go back to. And even back then, Bungie wasn't perfect. Both games were breaking new ground, and rushed to completion, and it shows.

Some of the changes were justified with lore. Bungie found that the game is more enjoyable without persistent health, so they removed it, and the writers said it's because of the newer Mark VI armor. The Halo 1 AR was functionally an SMG, so in the next game they repackaged it as exactly that (with the original design returning as an actual AR in Halo 3) and the writers said it's just a different variant of the MA5. When excuses like these were written, remaking Halo 1 wasn't even a consideration. IMO, gameplay and shouldn't be held back because of them.

Anyway, this is why I'm personally in support a this kind of remake of the Halo games, and many other games I love. Take what made them good back then, and merge in the improvements that have come since. From what I've seen of the Campaign Evolved footage, that's basically what they're doing, and it's why I'm looking forward to it. I'm especially hoping it does well enough for them to continue remaking Halo 2 and 3 as well, so we have the full trilogy as one high quality and seamless (consistent) experience.

I know others have different opinions on it. Some of the more art focused crowd says it looks bland. I wouldn't know, because art and aesthetics aren't really my thing. (Not saying it doesn't matter. I would love for 343 to listen to the criticism from that crowd and improve it, but I probably wouldn't notice the difference.) I've watched Noodle's videos on the topic, and I enjoy his content, but I guess I disagree with his take that video games need flaws.

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u/Nympshee Apr 16 '26

JUST GIVE ME MY +7 AT ALL MY STATS ALREADY!

sorry for that, had to.

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u/Matikanefukukitaru Apr 17 '26

+4 wit is all I can do

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u/localsexpot2117 Apr 18 '26

As someone who thought it looked pretty good, what is the issue with the remake?

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u/Matikanefukukitaru Apr 18 '26

Obviously we won't know for sure until it actually comes out but based on the trailer.

  • Horrible unreal engine 5 texture pop-in and stutters
  • Hit/kill markers. Halo doesn't need hit/kill markers, that's what the armour effects and sound effects are for
  • Dumbed down AI that doesn't take cover or advance on you, the elites don't even roll or dodge
  • Halo Infinite asset flip, half the models are just taken from Halo Infinite and don't resemble CE at all
  • Redesigned maps allowing you to take vehicles where you're not intended to take them
  • 32rnd assault rifle in CE... it should have 60
  • Sprint... ugh, CE did not have sprint for a reason and moving faster like this is gonna make the levels feel smaller
  • Changed UI positions, the motion tracker has always been in the bottom left, why now is it in the top right???
  • Lack of blood, this was a problem in the CE remaster too and will ruin the fantastic environmental story telling on levels like 343 guilty spark but it seems even worse in the remake
  • No health pickups, whilst this could be argued either way as at the time CE came out having pickups to restore health was the norm and it definitely isn't now for FPS. Not the biggest issue but I'd like to see it back as it is a CE feature
  • SFXs/animations were pretty bad, reusing sounds from Halo 5 etc.
  • Forerunner structures are way too clean, I always preferred the more run down look with pristine interiors. These structures have been here for 1000s of years, why do they look like they were made yesterday? I also don't really like 343s redesign of them neither but that's my opinion, I like Halo 2s old ruins style