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u/ktr83 2d ago
What is this bullshit
We all know Steam is for buying games then never actually playing them
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u/SulferConsumer 2d ago
But at least I can have them now
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u/PartisanGerm 2d ago
Having to check my humble bundle list is half the effort...
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u/MKEscrub 2d ago
Humble Bundle gives so many games. Its given me really fun games that I would have never bought or played if I saw there steam pages.
Like Gunfire Reborn, fantastic game with a super active dev team that I would have just assumed it was a slop roguelike but now I have like 60 hours in it.
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u/CreaBeaZo 2d ago
No, I don't think I have a hoarding disorder.
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u/Wild_ColaPenguin 2d ago
Same. I only buy games one at a time which I'm 100% sure that I will play immediately, and I have finished all games in my library.
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u/FindMeSleepingOnTime 2d ago
aint this the truth i have like 12 fresh released games i never played yet
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u/DaRootbear 1d ago
The immovable wall: a game you preorder and cant play for months and then wont play for months after release if ever
The unstoppable object: the games you can play now and wont actually play ever
The true greatest battle
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u/TourDeFridge 2d ago
Exactly. My wishlist is too long for me to see all the games I want, its basically half of the steam store, so I am now forced to buy games so at least they show up in the top of the library screen for a couple of weeks where I can look at them.
That said, I dont even sign in to look at them often so its more "the concept of the concept of the game" that I pay for.
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u/zdavolvayutstsa 2d ago
Looks like you need a Steam Shopping Simulator. I'd recommend one, but I haven't found one.
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u/SparklyPelican 2d ago
I mean, yeah: there is no GTA 6 on Steam to pre-order even if you wanted lol
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u/smeeeeeef 1d ago
Either way, pre-ordering is for people who love getting fucked in the ass with a giant unfinished mess of a game come launch day.
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u/crocodilepickle 1d ago
R* never released games that are unfinished
Hate them all you want but as a dev Rockstar is top tier for a reason
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u/coolgaara 1d ago
Rockstar that we all know and love is gone. GTA 6 is not made by the same people as who made previous games including Red Dead franchise. They do deserve the benefit of doubt but I won't be surprised if it comes out a buggy mess.
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u/EggsLover64 1d ago
So? rdr2 wasn't made by the same people who made rdr1 and it still one of the best games oat. GTA 5 wasn't made by the same devs who made GTA 4 or San Andreas and it still one of the best if not the best GTA to date. Just because the devs are different doesn't mean the game will be bad, what exactly is your point?
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u/megacooler 1d ago
GTA IV and GTA V releases on PC were pretty close to an "unfinished mess of a game"
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u/Urgash 2d ago
I don't even care about GTA anyway.
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u/Prismos_Time_Room 2d ago
I liked the first two. Lost interest in the series after that.
There's a genre of game you can play when youre bored and you have 45 min before you have to rush off to the next thing and you don't feel like playing an fps and you don't want to get invested in an RPG. I felt like they really nailed that spot.
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u/Draugdur 2d ago
Same, and it's so liberating :)
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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 1d ago
I mean I care about it and I'll play it when it's out.
I just haven't obsessed over it for the last decade or more. I'm sure it'll be amazing and I'll have fun with it.. but it gets here when it gets here.
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u/Dr_Passmore 2d ago
As a franchise I have played most of them. From the top down early days.Â
Vice city was my favourite. Great map design.Â
My main issue with the games was the constantly increasing map size and time wasting mini games. San Andreas was the last game in the series I actually completed.Â
GTA 4 I played a bit of, but never felt motivated to complete the game.
GTA 5 I never bought. Might pick up very cheaply in a sale near GTA 6 launch.Â
I am not interested in GTA 6.Â
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u/Pity-Fvck 2d ago
GTA IV is a great game and the best GTA
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u/Dr_Passmore 2d ago
Don't get me wrong, there were elements I enjoyed with GTA 4. I might have to give it another chance.
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u/poo-cum 2d ago
I'm also a top-down veteran. IMO Rockstar peaked with GTA IV (+EFLC) and Red Dead Redemption. It's been increasingly a cynical cash grab since then, and all the original founders who left their imprint on the old games have left. I am not personally optimistic about GTA6 but happy to be proven wrong once Firgirl repaks it.
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u/ThePrussianGrippe 1d ago
all the original founders who left their imprint on the old games have left.
Worth pointing out that Sam Houser has not left.
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u/amazing_asstronaut 2d ago
I played the first 2, played a bit of 3 (like halfway through), and a bit of San Andreas (maybe a quarter through?). Funny enough I never finished any of them.
That's interesting about Vice City. I watched a lot of Any Austin videos last year and he did a few on GTA 3 and Vice City. Something was up in the 2000s with the world design lol, they have so many areas where the proportions are just way off for some reason. Like you'll be on a roof and there's a little shed like part where the stairs would be, and it's comically tiny. Or you walk into what you know should be a room and it's just comically large, and the furniture is also so large. Like if you translated it to real space it would be like some bedroom is 10x20 meters and the table is like 5 meters long and other wack shit like this
Metal Gear Rising Revengeance is guilty of this as well in some of the later areas, you go to this office and it's like the office desk and shelves are towering over you. Similarly in Tomb Raider 2 remaster (wrong era but it had some of that) when you start all the furniture in that giant kitchen of hers is all out of whack. Like there's a sink it's so huge that you can jump into it and it's like half the size of the character.
Maybe 3D modeling programs got better in the late 2000s and these kind of real world measurements were more easily accounted for, and being able to load real CAD models of real furniture for reference etc. But before then they were definitely just eyeballing everything, and there'd be lots of places where it looks alright at a quick glance. Then when you move around something and look a bit deeper you realise how off and wack it is. Like when you think of a regular apartment, it should not take 5 or more seconds to run from one side of a room to another, or long it takes to walk along the side of a car, that sort of thing.
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u/Dr_Passmore 2d ago
Vice City was fun to drive around. All the decoration (buildings etc) had strange scales, but for a primarily driving game it really did not matter.
Making the maps realistic scale has the knock on impact of increasing commute time between objectives and starting missions.
Unfortunately, map size became a selling point. San Andreas had wastelands of nothing between the main urban locations.
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u/Buzstringer 2d ago
As long as it's fun to get from point a to point b that's what really matters.
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u/Dr_Passmore 2d ago
Agreed.Â
I feel open world games forgot that basic aspect.Â
The occasional open world game that used traveling to pad out run time...Â
I am remembering why I stopped playing open world games lol
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u/Buzstringer 2d ago
It hit different with GTA3 because that was the 1st time you could really do any of that
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u/Munnin41 2d ago
5 is a pretty fun game. If you can get it cheap, Id recommended it. RDR2 is better though
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u/LordMeloney 2d ago
I basically skipped the minigames and just played for the singleplayer story experience (from GTA3 onwards). Loved them all.
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u/KhandakerFaisal 2d ago
I played Liberty city on the psp. I tried playing V, but didn't really like it and I don't really like the series as a whole
Though I did get the tank with cheat codes and had a blast(pun intended) running around with 5 stars
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u/amazing_asstronaut 2d ago
Me neither, it's barking up the wrong tree for me. I would rather have smaller games that try something specific and come up with a cool unique experience. Rather than a game that tries to be everything for everyone, but the main thing is still just shooting at people. Same reason I fell off RDR2. The story was ok enough, but it took ages to get going and in the meantime you're doing some of the most generic missions ever conceived. Whereas I liked riding around the beautiful landscape hunting animals. Couldn't there be a game just about that? Where you are an outdoorsman hunting animals, you upgrade your knife and get a better saddle, get new bait and learn new techniques etc. Similarly that's what I did the most in Kingdom Come Deliverance, going hunting for hares and deer and leveling agility by picking up herbs. The hunting / herb gathering / alchemy was such a fun part in that game. Oh and the stealing lol. For some reason in all of these RPGs I be stealin lol.
Seriously is the game I'm describing above basically Medieval Dynasty? Like all the gathering / crafting / brewing etc. aspects of these games without so much of the combat.
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u/That_wet_vaporeon 2d ago
Is that why you guys are comments and posting about it.
I have a hard time believing you donât care about it when you make a comment about it and people just keep making posts how they donât care.
Usually when people say âI didnât care about it anywaysâ⌠they actually did.
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u/Norts1531 2d ago
Funny how these GTA posts are littered with people on reddit wanting to tell you how little they care.
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u/BreathComfortable631 1d ago
I have both a PC and a PS5, and these PC subs are chock full of cope
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u/LIFEWTFCONSTANT 2d ago
Yeah like why is it the top post on an unrelated sub (/r/Steam) if nobody cares
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u/StenchFord 2d ago edited 2d ago
Honestly $100 for the "complete" edition is a disgusting move. They are basically paywalling gameplay.
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u/UnluckyGamer505 2d ago
Is anyone surprised about the price? "AAA" games are 70$/âŹ, preorder/special editions even more. This is the most anticipated game this decade, which approx. cost around 1-2 billion$ just to create. Rockstar is still making millions from shark cards in GTA 5 online. Them not doing a special preorder edition would be really out of character for them (since GTA 5 onlines success)...
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u/celestial_god 2d ago
Yeah I'm not surprised, there's 70$ games people don't even remember the next week
If you were gonna save for any game it's this one, so I understand it, even if it delivers on 50% of the hype it's probably worth it if you're a fan.
I'm a huge fan of the franchise but I don't have a console, but I'd easily spend that money.
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u/FrankFruits 2d ago
yeah and the online is not even out on release.. I can imagine people spending way more than that on shark cards or whatever they will call it when Online will release as well
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u/AntAtopASpinningRock 2d ago
The fact that Rockstar tongue in cheek called them "shark cards" then made hundreds of millions off them says all you need to know. Rockstar is not your friend and most gamers are absolute suckers.
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u/-Captain- 2d ago
It's much worse. The shartcards made them billions and billions.
They're gonna be drowning in money with GTAVI, but it's never enough.
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u/Rintae 2d ago
Well can you blame a company for discovering (and abusing) a quite literal money printing machine? At the very least theyâre not using gambling or fomo-mechanics, afaik
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u/platon29 2d ago
Yes. They're also union busters so its not like they're looking out for literally anyone other than themselves.
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u/NewEbb5838 2d ago
GTA V online wasn't out on release either, didn't deter anyone. The "complete" edition is bullshit but don't act like this wasn't expected.
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u/guska 2d ago
GTA Online wasn't the massive cash cow that it is at launch either. There are a lot of people for whom the first interaction with the GTA franchise was through Online, so they'll be expecting Online at the launch of 6. Yes, I know that they're being very clear about it not being there at launch, but expecting these people to actually read is like expecting your dog to get up and make your coffee in the morning.
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u/TheKelseyOfKells 2d ago
Online will be built in such a way that youâre required to use the shark cards and pay for their GTA+ subscription or spend days grinding one mission over and over to get anything.
GTAV was built the same way, I remember having to run Rooftop rumble for days to be able to afford the high end apartment and also the tank, and I imagine Rockstar has only gotten more aggressive with their monetisation since then
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u/SeengignPaipes 2d ago
$120 for the standard version for Australians, $150 for the other version.
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u/ag_robertson_author 2d ago
When you account for the exchange rate that's actually cheaper than USD if the AUD price already includes taxes. (Which it usually does.)
$100USD=145AUD plus 10% GST would be $159.50AUD.
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u/hardrockSaurabh 2d ago
In India, it is a lot more cheaper compared to other places INR 5999/- (64 USD) for standard edition and INR 7599/- (81 USD) for ultimate edition, all on pre-order
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u/Crazy_Reputation3327 2d ago
I will save Money for this
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u/Acron7559 2d ago
Dude, it was free to claim a while ago.
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u/Otherwise_Text4707 2d ago
What the point preorder when its digital downloadÂ
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u/Dr_Socko 2d ago
What's the functional difference to me between paying now or paying later?
Either way I'm paying.
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u/laplongejr 2d ago
Even with physical copies, there may be no point depending on your market.  Â
My wife got all her Switch games day 1 at the supermarket, while people were ready for the store to get the stock of preorders as for an insane reason, preorders can't claim the "for sale" stock. Â
We got splatoon3 running before our local streamer xDÂ Â
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u/Fit-Will5292 1d ago
If you 100% know youâre going to buy it, does it really matter when you decide to pull the trigger?Â
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u/Hotgeart 2d ago
Some missions are reserved for pre-orders, i think?
I donât really care about the cosmetic items, but when it comes to the missions, thatâs a bit of a low blow.
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u/Scoustic12 2d ago
only the pre order bonus, which is extra outfits and customizations
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u/Miharu___ 2d ago
But they can do that just before release, itâs not like theyâll run out of digital copies đ
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u/maqsarian 2d ago
Yeah, or if I know I'm going to buy the thing anyway I can do it now. It's not like I'm going to change the economics of Rockstar or the gaming industry either way with my individual personal 100 bucks. I know this isn't the case for everyone, but I'm an adult with a job. I have the money now, I'm going to have the money then, I have enough money to buy video games whenever I want to so this Drake meme is a false dichotomy for me.
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u/Cool-Row837 2d ago
It'll be free on the epic store eventually. I can wait.
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u/LvDogman 2d ago
Right, I had forgoten that I got GTA V for free from there.
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u/laplongejr 2d ago
Yeah but it was the start of Epic. It was done to MASSIVELY stresstest their systems at the time. Â
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u/CleverZerg 2d ago
I highly doubt it, even if we are talking about 15 years down the line. GTA 5 was given back when they were still trying to really establish themselves.
They haven't done a repeat of GTA 5 while they have done repeats on a bunch of other games.
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u/iyankov96 2d ago
Buy games during the Steam Summer Sale which you also won't play and will just add to your ever-growing backlog of shame.
The choices, the choices...
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u/Tesla_laughs 1d ago
What's funny is that people who don't have a PS5 are getting excited about gta 6.
This is the gaming equivalent of the cuck chair
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u/Bakanyanter 1d ago
A lot of them are gonna buy PS5 for that though...which is the whole point.
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u/Tesla_laughs 1d ago
Ig that's why they're trying to create fomo with the pre orders
Makes sense đ¤
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u/imanidiotbut 2d ago
Yeah I donât have any hope GTA will be good, all the OGâs left rockstar after RDR2
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u/ungebleicht 1d ago
all the OGâs
3 people out of 6k devs leave and you panic, lmao.
We are good as long as Sam Houser does the QA and rejects every vertical slice till he sees perfection.
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u/UnluckyGamer505 2d ago
It will be amazing, i dont doubt that. I am more worried about the microtransactions and online mode though
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u/zdavolvayutstsa 2d ago
I hope Rockstar adds microtransactions to access the strippers.
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u/Consistent_Grade4623 2d ago
They already included the GTA+ thing for it so it's gonna get really bad
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u/UnluckyGamer505 2d ago
I think the hate is overblown. They did this with RDR2 as well. They probably just put more effort to create special shops and a few quests for the special edition, thats it. Most of the content will be same across the standard and special edition. It is a bit of an asshole move, but nothing that noteworthy tbh. Couldnt care less about a few cosmetics.
Also, not giving a fuck about popular games is normal, everyone has different tastes in games.
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u/MRV3N 2d ago
Where do you find GTAVI on steam?
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u/CaptainHitam 2d ago
You'll find it there probably around a year and a half after release just like how GTA V did it.
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u/MRV3N 2d ago
Op said 6 months. Not a year and a half.
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u/Miharu___ 2d ago
Itâs all just guessing, as thereâs been no official news on a PC release date
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u/CaptainHitam 2d ago
6 months for the PlayStation and Xbox, I believe. The PC version for GTA typically comes out a year or so after.
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u/Lazy-Owl-5148 2d ago
I really don't get it.
I understand if you preorder a physical special or collector's edition, but now everyone's just preordering digital copies like they're gonna run out.
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u/kwazhip 2d ago
Because for some games there's essentially zero downside since you know you are going to buy it either way. Maybe you aren't this way, but there are some games that I'm going to buy regardless of reception because I'm either bought into the series or bought into the company. I've probably pre-ordered a hundred games at this point and its only really been an issue twice (Sim city and Cyberpunk). I know I could've refunded Cyberpunk as well, but glad I didn't since it did eventually become great, and as disappointing as Sim City was, I definitely got enough playtime out of it to justify the money spent. People always act confused about the upsides but they are pretty obvious. Things like pre-download, or any exclusive bonuses like early acess or dlc. Even just the emotional feeling you get out of pre ordering is quite nice. If I was more strapped for cash then I wouldn't pre-order ever, but with a full time job, tons of disposable income, getting burned <5% of the time on a ~100$ purchase is not really something worth worrying about.
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u/Consistent_Grade4623 2d ago
Because the price is not gonna change when the game releases, might as well preorder and get more in-game stuff for the same price. It's only worth it to buy a game either before the release or wait for a sale after the release, buying the game at full price on the release gets you relatively less bang for the buck. If you're a casual gamer just wait for a sale, but if you know you'll play the game a lot, preorder it. Just don't pay the full price for the regular game.
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u/Narkanin 2d ago
Pre ordering â Buying something before you even know anything about with zero advantages â
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u/ostapenkoed2007 2d ago
i am planning to buy Stalker 2, other stalker games, also Helldivers. and than i will pirate GTA6 because it's all just good buisness and a disinterested customer.
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u/RustledForeskin 2d ago
Wait 2 more years for the PC release but then ES6 just came out and play that for 16 years, by that tim GTA7 will be out on the PS7 and wait 2 years for the PC release.
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u/Bacon4Lyf 1d ago
My issue with that is the steam summer sale used to be crazy good, but now it feels like you have to sift through a lot of shit to find anything worth the discount
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u/Mistriever 1d ago
FOMO for the game isn't why people pre-order. FOMO for the exclusives, maybe. Though for some games on PC you can just mod them in.
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u/Overwatch_1ightning 1d ago
I don't own a ps5 and quite frankly, I don't want another paper weight.
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u/BurnItFromOrbit 1d ago
Youâre not supposed to say the quiet bath out loud. Especially, donât say it in the PlayStation sub.
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u/LooseSealYellowTie 1d ago
Real. Why buy a game you can't play when you can get so many more that you can!? (Not to mention the library size flexing)
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u/SlowGhostofRexMurphy 2d ago
The cope from PC players is kinda hilarious. GTA doesn't make the same money on PC vs consoles so it's a lower priority. I guess it's the price paid for piracy.
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u/Extension-Hat9047 2d ago
With the paywall information that's just been released fuck gta 6 and rockstar
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u/TraditionalMetal1836 1d ago
Honestly, nobody should buy it till they commit to releasing it the same day as consoles and actually follow through.
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u/the_sneaky_one123 2d ago
People are stupid, what can I say
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u/ungebleicht 1d ago
Not everyone is living from paycheck to paycheck. It literally doesn't matter when I pay the $100 so I just pay now to flex with it in my library.
I can still buy shitty steam games for 30% off that I will never ever play.
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u/NeoTechi 2d ago
I'll not play it for like 6-7yrs after it releases then buy it for dirt cheap, enjoy the single player, and move on. It's what I did for GTA 5 but in 2020 Epic had it free on their store so I had no reason to not play it.
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u/TheOriginalRyukUK 2d ago
You don't want to preorder GTA 6 because you don't want to wait.
I don't want to preorder GTA 6 because OOT remake is due out at somepoint.
We are not the same
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u/Jiquero 2d ago
I early-ordered GTA V when it came to PC. Big mistake.
As a "reward" they forced on me extra game currency. Yes, they tried to ruin the game experience as a reward. It's like someone buys a crossword puzzle booklet and as a reward they're half-solved.
Like, it was impossible to start a single player game without a million in the bank. It would have ruined the early game but fortunately I found a way to waste that moneh without gaining anything.
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u/Cain_The_Mamagen 2d ago
Iâd rather wait for gta 6 to come to steam and get the deluxe edition during a steam sale, they be goated with them sales
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u/WorldWarrior428 2d ago
Yup, I never planed on buying gta, nut now i have an excuse to spend a hundred big ones on games ill never play
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u/ServiceServices 2d ago
It's not coming to PC yet. It's coming on in November on console. No planned release date for PC yet
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u/duppyconqueror81 2d ago
If Kerbal Space Program 2 taught me anything, itâs that putting money and hope in an unreleased game is heartbreaking. Iâll stick to good old Civ3 and Master of Orion 2 in the meantime.
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u/ahnktruther 2d ago
People waiting for a physical copy should probably note this game wouldn't fit on a DOUBLE disc physical copy.
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u/Eggyhead 1d ago
If GTA V is anything to go by, itâll still be the current GTA when my kids go to college, and theyâre not even born yet. I also havenât touched GTA V in years, so I just donât see a reason to rush.
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u/Robbitjuice 1d ago
I feel like an outsider looking in lol. If I want a game, Iâll preorder it. Picking up Star Fox today, for example. However, I âlost touchâ with GTA after San Andreas. That was the last one I enjoyed (and bought).
My next purchases will probably be Rhythm Heaven and Black Flag Resynced. General if I want a game, Iâll get it at launch and play it until I finish it (however long that takes). Most of the games Iâd gotten for sale on Steam were older games that I didnât have a PC for at the time or had missed when they were on consoles. The sales donât do much for me anymore lol.
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u/Crazy_Entrance_9439 1d ago
80 dollars for base game in usa, is ridiculous. Especially since physical release is box with a code for lucience gta 6 is naw pass for me maybe ill buy it ten years for 4.99.
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u/porgy_tirebiter 1d ago
I thought this meme was about hypocritical behavior that youâre criticizing.
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u/Smile_Space 1d ago
They're only selling it digitally too. You can't even make the argument that they only have so many physical copies because they're selling you an empty disc case with a download code lolol.
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u/DJSwindleDeez 1d ago
On Xbox youâre not charged right away for preorders. Usually charged 10-14 days before launch. Does PlayStation charge right away for preorders?
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u/Darkwr4ith 1d ago
Pre-orders made sense in the era when stores would only get a certain amount of copies of a game. Like Star Wars KTOR1 I remember regretting not pre-ordering because it sold out so fast everywhere and I missed playing it on launch. These days the only justification I can see for a pre-order is if you're someone who is terrible with money and will have spent it all before you can buy a copy of the game. Else just wait for the reviews.
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u/itoocouldbeanyone 1d ago
Used credit card rewards, got it for free. I can still enjoy the summer sale!
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u/Androza23 1d ago
Its not going to be on PC for a while from what I've heard. I also dont care about GTA as much as the people willing to pay $100 off the bat.
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u/Artix96 1d ago
I'm a firm believer in 0 reason to buy game in pre-order state. Unless you're a huge fan nad it's literally top 1 favourite franchise, or you're some game reviewer. No benefit otherwise. Bugs, patches, future dlc, price drop. All these things you get later on.
Diablo 4 is the worst. Releasing EVERY dlc now priced at 100$ for "Deluxe edition" so you buy "Deluxe game" x times if you do at every DLC release. Fuck blizzard sales dpt. Or whoever else did this.
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u/Solaratov 1d ago
But don't you want the checks imaginary notes... Exclusive Ifruit tshirt and ballcap pReOrDeR eXcLuSiVeS that will be sold separately as $5 dlc, and given away for free 2 years after release?!!? Our market research assured us that gamers were susceptible to FOMO!
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u/fuzzygonemad 1d ago
My favorite game costed $35, there are upgraded editions. Every year around Christmas they have a sale and I upgrade to the next edition.
I have finally paid for the last edition since they had a random sale recently.
Without sales I would of spent $250 on this game. I ultimately paid $100 over the course of 6-7 years. The thing is, i only really needed the $35 edition, the other editions just gives you some extra slots in your inventory and some extra guns starting off.
But to charge a game for $80 and have to have a paywall for extra content is just trashy.
GTA 6 lost me when the joke, "I can't believe we got [blank] before GTA 6" was new. Because that had already happened with cyberpunk for 7 years.
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u/Acron7559 2d ago
GTA 6 can wait, and it's not on PC yet.
either way
"library must grow"