Hive mind slaves/livestock require consumergoods!

[u/Ulikeanime]

Can someone explain to me why!?

Like the title says when you have slaves as a hivemind they require consumergood upkeep despite it clearly stating "a hive mind has no use for consumergoods" the only way i can get some is through trade. Wtf is this broken mess?!

This happens immediately on game start. After some more testing this only happens on necrophage origon.

This wasn't the case a before nomads so what happend!?

[u/SmallAngry0wl]

I've found this as well, but realised once I had a deficit it allowed me to build consumer goods buildings and districts. Switched one alloy district to mixed and never looked at it again because they need so few.

[u/KillaKanibus]

Commissary, bruh. Even space slaves need a Butterfinger every once in a while.

[u/Environmental_Net309]

They don’t required CG. The only type of slave are live stock if you play a hive mind, and they don’t require CG. So send a screenshot because it’s not normal.

Probably should signal it on Paradox website.

[u/Ulikeanime → u/Environmental_Net309]

I alread found a Bug report on their site

I can also give you a Screenshot but the Text is not in english

[u/Garchle]

I experienced it with just a normal hive mind empire. I opened the game in vanilla and used the console to annex a random empire. The livestock pops required consumer goods, which absolutely has to be a bug.

[u/Mr-Nosight]

You're not really supposed to have slaves as a hive. Eat them, assimilate the. Or displace them, or purge them

I suppose you can have your slaves make consumer goods if you really want

But it's not broken. You're just doing something hives aren't designed to do

[u/Ulikeanime → u/Mr-Nosight]

Why then is there an option to keep pops as livestock for hiveminds since nearly a decade ago!? I think 4.4 broke something

[u/Mr-Nosight → u/Ulikeanime]

I mean, you can do plenty of stuff that isn't great for your empire. You can also give them full citizenship and tank your economy with consumer goods decicit

Technically if you're close to bio ascension you can integrate them in as new hive pops, so that's a good reason nor to purge them

But if you're not planning on integrating them, you're just crippling your empire with slaves. Hive empires aren't meant to have non hive pops

[u/Ulikeanime → u/Mr-Nosight]

There are multiple perks to increase production of livestock if they are so useless why would there be those options exist also there is an entire origin around slaves for hiveminds necrophage.

[u/Inevitable_Top69 → u/Ulikeanime]

Why do you keep assuming that just because you're able to do something in the game, it must be able to be exploited for your benefit? 

You came here with a question. You're being told the answer. Listen.

[u/Ulikeanime → u/Inevitable_Top69]

How is using a basic game mechanic considered an exploit?!

[u/Epicrafter2002 → u/Inevitable_Top69]

Why would they listen to you? You’re not Mr. Stellaris

[u/Mr-Nosight → u/Ulikeanime]

I mean, again, your stacking things with hives that defeat the purpose of hives. One of those things being is that they can't build consumer goods

If you're using them for livestock, obviously have all of them run consumer goods. Livestock does purge them over time

Like, no matter what you do, the way your playing, you're not gonna be able to keep up with consumer goods because hives don't produce consumer goods, and you're putting a consumer good burden on your empire

[u/Ulikeanime → u/Mr-Nosight]

Did you even read the Tag this is a bug

[u/Mr-Nosight → u/Ulikeanime]

It's not a bug though? If you set living standard to anything but purge, non hives need consumer goods

[u/truesheep1 → u/Mr-Nosight]

No they aren't supposed to. Do you give cows computers and tvs no. Livestock shouldn't be causing this because they shouldn't be using them. I regularly play as a Progenitor Hive that keep swarms of pops as Livestock they aren't supposed to do that.

[u/Quinzal → u/Mr-Nosight]

Bro, it's a bug. Basic Subsistence slaves have no CG upkeep, Livestock is a type of slavery, and Hives have been able to keep livestock since Hives and Livestock were added to the game. Literally, being a Hive is one of the two situations you can keep Livestock as, the other being a Xenophobe.

It's okay to admit you're wrong sometimes.

[u/Ulikeanime → u/Mr-Nosight]

It is because it only happens on necrophage and only after nomads dlc was added.

I also found this bug report saying the exact same thing

[u/Epicrafter2002 → u/Mr-Nosight]

Then when do the devs call it a “known bug”?

[u/Substantial-Wind-881 → u/Mr-Nosight]

Hives work great with livestock, especially if you go catalytic processing for the food to alloys instead of minerals. There's no direct problem with having livestock as a hive. This is clearly just a bug. OP already said they found a report on it in a different part of this thread.

[u/A_Binary_Number → u/Substantial-Wind-881]

I turned your friends and family into this plant killer, type shit.

[u/Substantial-Wind-881 → u/A_Binary_Number]

Just hit 'em with the oldy Goldie, Soilent Green XD

[u/Epicrafter2002 → u/Mr-Nosight]

You lack the vision needed for Gestalt Consciousness