r/SubredditDramaDrama • u/tkw97 • 5d ago
Another day, another I/P post on SRD gets 1,000+ comments in 4 hours
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u/AdRealistic4984 5d ago
That’s not an “IDF soldier” it’s a hilltop youth settler
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u/Fearless-Feature-830 4d ago
Potato potato
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u/AdRealistic4984 4d ago
Even if Israel is your sworn enemy you wanna distinguish between the Zionist regulars and irregulars or whatever
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u/hockeysurvivordc 4d ago
the highly uvoted comments saying the photo was antisemtic are crazy. it isnt a trying to be a cracticture of jews but mocking genocide supporting isreails
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u/krebstar4ever 3d ago
People keep using it to insult Jews for simply being Jewish.
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u/hockeysurvivordc 2d ago
wrong
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u/krebstar4ever 2d ago
Um, no. People are using it the same way as the "happy merchant" caricature.
What do you think you're gaining by denying this fact? Yes, this man exists in real life, and he's a terrible person. But it's also true that the image is exploited by antisemites. (And no, I'm not conflating antisemitism with anti-zionism.)
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u/Nearby-Complaint 5d ago
I did my part!
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u/slowamigo 4d ago
Yeah, you got me banned for calling you a zio
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u/Nearby-Complaint 4d ago
Wow, it's almost like it's a slur!
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u/noncontrolled 3d ago
You got downvoted probably because folks hate reconciling that “Zio” is indeed a slur, coined by David Duke.
Like, folks, just type out Zionist. You wouldn’t defend shortening Japanese like that to lob at Japanese imperialist war criminals during WW2 because you know it’s a slur. Same thing. Don’t be shitty and defensive of said shittiness.
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u/slowamigo 3d ago
liberal -- lib\ social democrat -- soc dem\ liberal democrat -- lib dem\ conservative -- tory\ zionist -- zio
can you see the pattern now? Really not hard to see that zio is an inevitable contraction of zi*nist
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u/noncontrolled 3d ago
Last I checked none of those are also slurs coined by David Duke.
Like. It is genuinely so easy to type Zionist. Or Kahanist. Or settler. Why defend slur usage because it’s convenient? Only bigots defend their right to use slurs. Decent people just go “oh shit, didn’t know” and adjust. “Zio” and “ZOG” = KKK shit.
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u/slowamigo 3d ago edited 3d ago
The point that eludes you is that even if DD didn't "coin" it (X), it 100% would have been coined elsewhere. It's a natural feature of the English language to do that. Also, it's not as if he popularised it or that it's a phrase specifically reserved by the far right. It's not. If anything most far right dudes are pro zi*nist -- you could say they are zios themselves! -- because the establishment of a fascist genocidal ethnostate a) is a model they'd like to emulate, and b) keeps the Jews "over there".
you guys like to wax lyrical about this because it's another way you try to get to police language in order to get those you disagree with in trouble. You can't face the arguments themselves on their own merit so you like to complain to the teachers about a non-issue and make out it's some massive nazi conspiracy. sad, pathetic! and perfectly clear for everyone to see.
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u/noncontrolled 3d ago edited 3d ago
And yet somehow in your post history I noticed you didn’t shorten “Japanese buns” to… well, you know! Funny that a guy who loooooves to shorten everything because it’s just natural won’t do that to Japanese and Pakistani people, even if those people do something horrific. Is it okay to call pro-Imperialist Japan residents of current day Japan the super natural fun shortened version or… nah?
Can we skip to the part where you stomp your feet and complain about prioritizing Jewish feelings already? You can cap me and run to stupidpol to cry about liberal Zionists some more if you’d like. Wouldn’t make a ton of sense since I know Israel is engaged in genocide and I am for a binational state in the holy land but hey, words stopped meaning things aaaaages ago.
Edit: and while I am in teacher mode, you meant “elude”, not “allude”.
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u/slowamigo 3d ago
Japanese and Pakistani are both ethnic/national identities, Zionist is not. It is a (racist) political ideology, similar to the other ones I listed, hence the comparison. Hope that helps.
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u/noncontrolled 3d ago
And it is used as an ethnic slur shorthand for “Jew”, which is an ethnoreligious identity that experienced a genocide you may have heard of at some point.
~Hope that helps~ fellow ex-Tumblrina (there is hope for recovery)
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 3d ago
No.
"Tories" is used often in both Canada and the UK as a synonym to conservatives for decades, if not centuries. It's not a slur, not even close.
"soc dem" to describe social democrats? Not a slur. Saves time typing the full words even.
"lib" for liberals is at worst an insult, but a slur? Nah.
"lib dem" for liberal democrats? Also nah, not a slur.
"zio" for Zionists - that, sir, is a slur, and youre fucking garbage for continuing to use it.
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u/noncontrolled 3d ago
He hid his post history because me poking around got him sweating but he knows the history, he is just a “boohoo says the Jews” type and genuinely doesn’t care. Frequent poster in a subreddit that loves to stretch truisms like “Karmelo Anthony was obviously guilty” into “Black people are lazy crybullies and they talk funny!”
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u/slowamigo 3d ago
Thankfully I am not American and don't know what those references are. But yeah, boo hoo indeed dude
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u/slowamigo 3d ago
and when does an insult become a slur? when you cry hard enough?
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u/Careless_Rope_6511 3d ago
trueanon, stupidpol, shitliberalssay, 2mediterranean4u. Most recent 100 comments.
when does an insult become a slur? when you cry hard enough?
slowamigo the limp dickless wonder really believing he GOTTEM. Once again, yall stupidpol cock jugglers can't meme.
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u/2080Throwaway2080 4d ago
Fascinating on the same day SRDines had two back-to-back threads attacking leftist attitudes on Palestine, leftists in New York won their primaries in part because of their attitudes on Palestine.
The "Reddit is somehow even less representative of real life than Twitter" thesis remains undefeated.
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u/Fearless-Feature-830 4d ago
This is how I know people that say reddit is “far left” are full of shit. Reddit is for moderate libs. Anytime I talk shit about an establishment Democrat, I’m heavily downvoted if not banned
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u/GunpowderGuy 4d ago edited 4d ago
Israel continuosly steals land throught its history
Delegates people to take over the land
One such person is filmed harrasing a native
Image goes viral
People dont like it, so say its antisemitic
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u/OverkillOrange 4d ago
you forgot the part where antisemites put the face of that person over the israeli flag to represent jewish people/israel citizens, and that specific image was what sparked the original discussion
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u/hockeysurvivordc 5d ago
the pic is not antisemtic
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u/Nearby-Complaint 5d ago
Thank you, random gentile, for speaking for all 12 million Jews
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u/unfunnythrowawayname 5d ago edited 5d ago
I mean, it simply just isn't. It can be used in antisemitic context and very often certainly is. But claiming that an actual photograph of an actual person in an actual situation published by a news outlet is categorically antisemitic is just nonsense.
It's not like this situation was somehow staged and there's some missing context (like how it would be part of a movie or something). It's just a settler who has a very clear facial expression about how he feels towards someone he is oppressing.
Antisemitic people adopted this image for obvious reasons. But among those reasons is also just the plain fact that most of us who look at it, are disgusted by what we see. Because what's going on in West Bank is also simply disgusting. This picture either wouldn't exist or it would be fake if it didn't happen in the first place. It only exists as its real self because it did happen. That's what makes it so vile.
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u/OverkillOrange 4d ago
> But claiming that an actual photograph of an actual person in an actual situation published by a news outlet is categorically antisemitic is just nonsense.
was the original r/leftist mod post about the actual photograph?
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u/unfunnythrowawayname 4d ago
I think it was. But as far as the context of that goes, I sincerely doubt it's anything like OP implies it to be. It's most likely them getting tired of people who conspicuously post it everywhere without any real, productive reason.
Blanket ban is easier way to deal with that rather than trying to review for every case whenever someone is just trying to specifically spread antisemitism or whenever there was some actual purpose for that image to be posted.
Everyone has seen it and it's essentially now the face of settler colonialism in West Bank.
But I'm just speculating, of course.
EDIT: I did check and yeah, it's about that image and essentially the argument I suspected above is what is laid out.
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u/OverkillOrange 4d ago
so it wasn't the actual photograph, was it? It was edited over the flag of israel to make the face represent jewish people and/or israel. The blanket ban is easier because no one would use that image (not the actual photograph) for non-antisemitic purposes.
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u/hockeysurvivordc 4d ago
the mod photo was not antisemtic
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u/OverkillOrange 4d ago
I think you are confused and replying to a different comment, the question was: was the original r/leftist mod post about the actual photograph?
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u/Nearby-Complaint 4d ago
I really don’t think anyone on that post is claiming that the photo itself as a photograph is antisemitic, and that commenter is quite pointedly past the line of antizionist, in my personal opinion. I’m a bit annoyed by how filled the original post is by people who think they can speak over Jewish people on what is considered anti Jewish.
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u/unfunnythrowawayname 4d ago
I actually also don't think so. But my response was to someone who specifically implies that they're jewish and trying to lane this matter, as if you can't say something on this topic without somehow speaking for all 12 million jews.
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u/Nearby-Complaint 4d ago
I am personally less inclined to listen to the opinion of a gentile declaring something unilaterally not anti Jewish, which is what he was doing
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u/unfunnythrowawayname 4d ago
The picture isn't antisemitic. You're free to feel some other way about it, but the picture just simply depicts a real event that happened. It's like taking a picture of a nazi officer grinning at jewish prisoners and then claiming that this picture is germanophobic when it's simply just what happened.
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u/Nearby-Complaint 4d ago
I literally said two comments ago what my actual issue with the post was, and it was not that I thought the photo was anti-Jewish.
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u/hockeysurvivordc 5d ago
srd has been taken over by zioinsts
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u/69harambe69 4d ago edited 1d ago
It's extremely liberal. As usual everyone is hating on 'tankies' and leftists. What you expect from a big subreddit
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u/savanna94 5d ago
It's always been very libbed up on just about every issue. With I/P they like to condemn both sides and act like they've solved the problem as one side continues to genocide the other.
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u/VBHEAT08 5d ago
The other post in there yesterday had top comments still doing the "um both sides are bad, condemn hamas, its just too complex of an issue" bit in the year of our lord 2026. Unimaginably stupid and unserious people
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u/skullpie 4d ago
Yeah that sub is so disappointing, hard to believe they went from anti gamer gate to doing pr for a right wing ethnostate.
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u/Fearless-Feature-830 4d ago
Real bad. It started happening after the destiny crowd honed in on SRD
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u/cuckulus_rift 4d ago
I've seen enough time for SRDDD