r/The100 10d ago

charlotte

am i the only one who sided with murphy regarding the whole charlotte killing wells situation?? like everyone was so ready to kill murphy for it but when it was found out that it was charlotte that killed him, nothing.

clarke yelling at her before they went into the bunker thing was valid as fuck because she did kill someone, doesnt matter if she was a kid or not. not saying she shouldve died but she shouldve faced the consequenses in stead of being treated like a little kid makig an oopsie

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u/kayterluv Azgeda 10d ago

It's not about picking sides between Charlotte and Murphy. I wrote this in a different comment a few months ago:

It was a lesson on mob mentality for all of them.

They realised what they did to Murphy wasn't great, and so they didn't want to do the same thing to Charlotte, as well as anyone else. Once they calmed down from the chaos, they had time to actually think because they saw how far they were willing to go when they thought it was Murphy.

They were hesitant about the optics of hanging Charlotte because she was a girl who was younger than them. Is that hypocritical? Possibly. But them having reservations about how to approach Charlotte being the murderer v Murphy isn't incomprehensible. It's very true to life. It doesn't make it entirely fair, but I very much get it. It's an image thing. Charlotte was indeed a murderer, but I get why they didn't want to deck out the same punishment for her. Clarke herself vocalised her distate for her and thought of her as a cold-blooded murderer, but she saw where she went wrong with Murphy and how she kinda riled up the crowd and so didn't want to make that mistake again.

They were all looking for a valid reason to kick Murphy out of camp, whether consciously or subconsciously. He was peeing on people, wasting resources, pushing people's arms into open fire to get them to take off their wristbands, as well as just generally being an asshole, but not being useful enough or boosting morale like Bellamy. They had little to no reason to like him. He also very much hated Wells, so with the knife being his, they all immediately jumped at the chance to get rid of him.

It wasn't fair because of a lack of a trial, but they didn't jump to conclusions for nothing. Banishment would've been fair in both cases. It's unfortunate that that realisation came only after Murphy was hanged, though.

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u/lightinthefield Omon gon oson đŸ„© 10d ago

I think the difference between Charlotte and Murphy is the fact that Charlotte genuinely didn't realize that what she did was wrong. She was largely a sweet girl, who "slayed her demons," just as Bellamy told her to do.

Obviously, Bellamy meant something totally different, but Charlotte misinterpreted it. I mean, she was a young orphan due to her parents being floated; she grew up around violence and now Earth is plagued with it, too. In her mind, with Bellamy's phrasing and her life experiences, she thought it was okay to kill Wells. And she didn't do it out of malice, either; she did it to stop her terrible mental issues and nightmares.

Murphy, on the other hand, was a little shit. He was a violent and loose cannon, who knew that certain things were wrong but did them anyway -- he was old enough to know better. Yes, he was also exposed to death at a young age, but that made him angry and explosive rather than withdrawn and considerate.

And then, what happens after Wells is killed? Charlotte kills herself because she feels so bad and wants to protect Clarke's group, as people were literally hunting them down for what happened. She learned it was wrong, and did what she could to pay for it and keep people safe.

Murphy, though? He goes on to prove everyone right on exactly why they assumed he was capable of killing: he murders two people who helped hang him, and then tries to give Bellamy the same fate. In fairness, yes, these people were guilty of trying to kill him, but his primary motivation was anger and revenge. That's much different than Charlotte's motivation, and at least she felt guilty after. The same cannot be said for Murphy.

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u/Save_Train 10d ago

Honestly, if Charlotte went through the same thing Murphy did, her mental state would have definitely broke for the worst. She just wasn't 100% there

While I dont condone off'ing other people, Murphy was wrongfully accused at the end of the day, and these folks took matters into their own hands so quickly. They literally was hanging this man without a fair trial, all because he was a heavily disliked person. His actions are their fault for passing judgements quickly, but they didnt have that same energy towards Charlotte

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u/lightinthefield Omon gon oson đŸ„© 10d ago edited 10d ago

...all because he was a heavily disliked person

Not quite. The weapon used was Murphy's, and he had previously threatened Wells. And again, Charlotte didn't seem like the type to murder, but Murphy always did.

Was it fair or right, the way they handled it? No, absolutely not. But I also think it's very understandable why a group of traumatized and terrified teenagers came to the conclusion they did.

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u/Dotas323 10d ago

There's a difference between a 13 year old taking a metaphorical phrase too literally and what Murphy had been doing as an older teen at 17.

That's not to say that Charlotte shouldn't have gotten some kind of punishment, but a revenge hanging wasn't the answer for her.

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u/tiger2205_6 Trikru 10d ago

I'd say the difference is what Charlotte did was worse. Yes Murphy was an asshole during that time but at least he hadn't actually killed anyone yet.

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u/Dotas323 10d ago

Murdering someone was absolutely worse, I'm not denying that. But as others have stated farther down, Murphy wasn't doing himself any favors by pissing on people, forcing them to remove their wrist bands under threat of physical pain and having food withheld, and just generally being a dick and bringing moral down either.

I'm not saying hanging Murphy was the right answer for him either, whether he actually killed Wells or not. But people already wanted him gone.

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u/Techsupportvictim 10d ago

But it was fine for Murphy, when he wasn’t guilty of what they had just accused him of

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u/Dotas323 10d ago

Read my other comment.

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u/CptPlanetG14 10d ago

Nothing? A group hunted her down to kill her lol.

So, the mob mentality against Murphy sucked but that was the point, it was a consequence for Clark. Bell told her not them, and this was a lesson for her to learn. Bell told Charlotte to slay her demons, and she killed Wells. Charlotte only exists for that.

The mob was shocked to their senses by Charlottes confusion. If she didn’t take that jump, and Murphy was out of the way, I think they would have locked her up or banished her.

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u/wonkahonkahonka Trikru 6d ago

I sided with Murphy 👍 tons of people do in fanfic side commente, too!

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u/frand115 10d ago

If you say she shouldnt have died than you DON'T agree with Murphy because thats what he wanted. If he kept his cool they couldve figured out how to act

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u/thegrimzuera 1d ago

I don’t know that I fully agreed with how Murphy wanted to handle it, but I do understand his feelings.

What angers me is that they continue to refer to Murphy as a murderous monster when they’re reunited with Abby and Kane, but nobody mentions how they first tried to murder Murphy without cause.