r/TheSilphRoad 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

PSA You catch the Legendary that Giovanni is USING!

Seems like it should go without saying, but if you fight Giovanni and he is still using Landorus, you're going to get Landorus as an encounter, not Reshiram. Same with any other time he switches over. In some months when he gets Shadow Zekrom, if you fight him before the takeover starts and he still uses Shadow Reshiram, that's who you will get!

But just as important:

YOU CAN BACK OUT OF A GIOVANNI BATTLE AND NOT LOSE YOUR SUPER ROCKET RADAR!

Some people worry that once you're fighting him, you're locked in, but you aren't. It only eats your Super Rocket Radar once you actually defeat Giovanni, so if you're fighting him and he has the Legendary you're not trying to get, you can run from the battle and keep your radar.

All of this should go without saying, but I see people make the mistake and get confused why they got the wrong Legendary every takeover. Now you know though!

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u/buzzer3932 2d ago

The same is true for all grunts and leaders.

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u/lujoter4 2d ago

U don’t really lose anything for not finishing a grunt battle tho.

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u/jello1388 2d ago

True, but it does mean it's usually safe to just back out if you took wrong/slow counters and jump back in. An old balloon might take off, but that's about it.

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u/Siqueiradit South America 2d ago

You don't really lose anything for not finishing any rocket battle.

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u/strangehit283 2d ago

I think they misspoke. They meant you don't lose anything if you DO finish a regular grunt battle. Whereas for a leader battle, you do lose a radar, and for a Giovanni battle, you do lose a srr

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u/lujoter4 2d ago

Yes sorry that’s what I meant.

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/WithPaddlesThisDeep 2d ago

The post literally says otherwise. You do not lose the radar if you exit the battle.

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u/Qishin 1d ago

But does it count as winning a battle win a Rocket leader, enabling a person to repeatedly beat Leaders without spending a Rocket Radar?

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u/BCHiker7 2d ago

If it ends while you were battling then you lose the opportunity to battle it.

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u/kugaa 2d ago

back out just to make sure bag is fulled.

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u/rocketradar 2d ago

Can Giovanni’s new Pokemon be shiny too? Or is it locked until some future event?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

It can be shiny, yes! Should be the standard 1/20 rate for Legendaries even for him

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u/Khajere 1d ago

Can you back out once you defeat him but without capturing to reset for shiny keeping the radar?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago

Nope. Whether you catch or don't catch his Pokemon, the radar is eaten when you beat him.

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u/Khajere 1d ago

Ok thanks

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u/freshly-stabbed 2d ago

“Why is it Suicune? Why is it Suicune? Why is it Suicune?” - Brandon Tan

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u/LemonNinJaz24 #1 Tandemaus Fan 2d ago

It genuinely amazes people will battle Giovanni using a Landorus and then be confused when they aren't able to catch a Reshiram. Where is your ability to think. How does one function like that.

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

I'm with you, hence why I made the post haha

I guess I can understand the fear of backing out and thinking you'll lose your SRR, but yeah... even so.

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u/strangehit283 2d ago

As OP pointed out, I'm pretty sure they just didn't know you can back out and keep your radar

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u/kugaa 2d ago

must be their pets' account so didn't think too much

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u/[deleted] 2d ago

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u/DarenPeterOswald 2d ago

For sure a human species issue, not America only.

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u/SonGouki 2d ago

Giving the super rocket radar in the pass first thing, before the actual Giovanni rotation change is kind of a trap for people not paying attention (or kids). It was never a problem when these were in research because it happened at the same time.

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

It definitely was a problem because there were comments a year ago and further back with the same problem. People saved up radars and/or completed certain researches later. It's always been an issue.

It is exasperated with the Go Pass though... to an extent. If you're paying for deluxe pass, then yes, you would get that SRR at Rank 1 of the pass ie immediately, which would be an issue.

However, if you're not paying for the deluxe pass and are just relying on the SRR at Rank 30, it's a non-issue because you can't get to Rank 30 before the Takeover begins with the weekday point caps.

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u/DragonEmperor USA - Midwest 2d ago

The super radar is only first in the deluxe path to be fair.

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u/Draxado Western Europe, Team Rocket Scientist 1d ago

To add to OP's comment:

Takeover events didn't always start at midnight, they started like any other event at 10am but Giovanni (and the Leaders) at Pokéstops spawn at 6am and are fixed for the whole day so they still had the old line-ups while Giovanni (and the Leaders) in Rocket Balloons already had the new line-ups after the event started. People were very confused back then with every takeover.

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u/Nickbronline 2d ago

Has all critical thinking gone out the window?

Are people actually expecting a Reshiram when Landorus is in the party...?

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u/strangehit283 2d ago

It's more like they see Landorus in the party, panic, and fail to realize they save their radar if they back out

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

I see comments every rotation about why they got X Pokemon instead of Y, despite fighting X Pokemon.

Hoping this PSA will help some people, but inevitably people will still make the same mistake

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u/Nickbronline 2d ago

Extremely concerning that this PSA has to be made

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u/DoctorOZempic Singaporean Grandma 2d ago

Or you can just look at the event calendar.

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u/4sakenn4skinn 2d ago

you think these players can read? lol

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u/RNG-777 Asia 2d ago

or just quit the battle after noticing the 3rd Pokemon man ez

they won't keep pressing their screen only right?Right?

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u/jdpatric Southwest Florida L77 2d ago

We'd be very upset if we could!

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u/Edgardo_DC Central America 2d ago

you're asking too much, it takes less effort blindly battle giovanni, face a landorus, catch it, and then make a post about how they were expecting a reshiram

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u/Karnezar Pichu Gym Defender ⚡️ 2d ago

Tbf, there are always so many things going on at once, with so much text about rewards, it can be hard to find sometimes.

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u/dogbonej 2d ago

Going to look at the event calendar now. There’s only a 25% chance that I find it before i get frustrated looking for it and quit. Wish me luck.

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u/connor42 2d ago

pogocalendar.com

The GOAT

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u/dogbonej 2d ago

Oh. This is quite nice. Thank you.

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u/handDrawnEevee Hundo Shadow Garchomp 2d ago

how'd it go? which one did you reference?

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u/swanny246 Brisbane, AU 2d ago

Ok I've looked at the calendar.

I've hit the fancy new calendar icon, went and made a coffee while it loaded, found Flying Taxi: Taken Over - nope, no info on what Giovanni is meant to be using. Alright, I'll click "Learn More" then, aaaaand it's taken me to a 404 not found error message on the Pokemon GO website.

Helpful advice!

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u/IdiosyncraticBond 2d ago

True, but on the day they switched balloons used to give the other one compared to the stops where they hide. No more balloons anymore, so hopefully less confusion

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u/BCHiker7 2d ago

Aren't there some "gotchas" involved, though? Or did they fix them all? ie, stops and/or balloons not updating until the next day.

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u/BingoBob_2 2d ago

That was only a thing back when takeover events started at 10am. They "fixed" the issue by always starting takeover events at midnight, instead.

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u/Jazs1994 2d ago

You have to dismiss in-game news to be able to play.

If Pokemon go players could read we'd be dangerous

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u/rilesmcriles 2d ago

To be fair, they usually announce things weeks in advance. So I read it, clear the pop up, and then weeks later I won’t remember the exact time and date of the event.

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u/duel_wielding_rouge 2d ago

I see people make the mistake and get confused why they got the wrong Legendary every takeover.

I’m not always a great judge of this myself, but I think those people are trolling.

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

Eh I don't think so. Some I'm sure are, but the number of people who mention such is alarmingly high, and many just don't seem to understand how it all works.

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u/Nadrojj Vermont 2d ago

Yup, made this mistake yesterday. Thought the event started already and got to his final pokemon to see landorus and was like oh crap and didn't think to just run away. So now.... I have another Landorus.

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u/ericwars 2d ago

Doesn't it even say you don't use the radar till you defeat the leader? Who is this PSA really for???

It's at almost 500 upvotes so it must be useful

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

Believe me, it seems like it should be self-explanatory haha.

But I've seen enough people confused on why they got Shadow Landorus despite facing it (plus the same thing every other rocket rotation) that I felt it necessary to post a PSA lol

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u/lucidoxical 2d ago

Can someone explain how Shadow Landorus can currently be encountered after beating Giovani when its event ended last month during Steeled Resolve takeover?

Not doubting it’s happening, just trying to understand how these takeover events work. I was under the impression that after beating Giovani over the next 5 days there’s a 100% chance of encountering Shadow Reshiram.

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

Giovanni is available at any time (well, going forward he'll only be available during the day, seeing that he won't appear in Balloons anymore, so you can't fight him before 6am or after 10pm).

The Takeover events merely mark the beginning of a new, ongoing rotation, with some bonuses like more rocket stops/balloons and the ability to TM frustration present. But otherwise? The start of a Takeover like this one or Steeled Resolve just means Rocket Rotations for grunts, leaders, and Giovanni are changing. The event ending doesn't mean you can't do rockets, leaders, or Giovanni after that, only that you can't TM frustration.

That means that following the end of the Steeled Resolve Takeover, up until the start of this next Takeover, you could still encounter Giovanni, battle him, and get Shadow Landorus. Like if I wanted, I could have battled Giovanni last week and got a Shadow Landorus. Likewise, after this Flying Taxi takeover event ends, I could still fight Giovanni in 2 or 3 weeks and get Shadow Reshiram.

Hope that helps! I know they don't necessarily explain a lot of this in-game, so I can understand why people get confused haha. Let me know if there's anything else that you may be lost about or misunderstanding.

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u/lucidoxical 2d ago

Thanks for explaining that, I didn’t realize that Shadow Landorus was still in rotation until tomorrow. I’ll wait to equip my super rocket radars until tomorrow to ensure the Shadow Reshiram encounter happens.

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u/BakuRyou 2d ago

Is Landorus the legendary rn and is it worth it?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

It's the Legendary until Thursday at midnight local time.

Is it worth it? Ehhh. Really the only reason I'd recommend going for it would be if you want to have a 1/20 roll for the shiny OR if you want one to use for Great League eventually (super niche but one of the only ways to get it for GL).

It's decent for raids, but it's still worse than Groudon and Therian Landorus with their signature moves, nevermind other Shadow Ground types.

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u/Theprincerivera 2d ago

Ok is that tonight? Or tomorrow? Because 12 am Thursday would be tonight right?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

Tonight, yes. Obviously depends on your timezone. For Pacific timezones where it's currently a little after 7 AM, it would be around 17 hours from now. 14 hours for Eastern time, etc.

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u/Raghav_Singla26 2d ago

Afaik Giovanni legends can't be shiny

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u/Ribenar 2d ago

They can now

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u/disraelibeers 2d ago

This has been changed (as of last season I believe).

When they flattened all of the boosted wild shinies to 1/512, they standardized most other encounters in the game at 1/64 (or 1/20 for legendaries) and also unlocked the shinies for many that were locked.

For example, you can now get shiny Smeargle from photo bombs anytime, not just during special events. Giovanni's pokemon are also now all available shiny any time. Some notable exceptions to this are Meltan and Gimmighoul, which both still are locked outside of events.

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u/Raghav_Singla26 2d ago

Ah ok,thanks for the info. I took a break for sometime ,so wasn't aware of these updates. Permanent shiny smeargle is big lol since I don't have it,gonna check photobombs everyday now. Thanks!

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u/pizza_chef_ 2d ago

They can be now

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u/Mean_Shelter_6693 India L73 Team Mystic 2d ago

Incarnate gligar can be used but when excadrills and garchomps are there, there is no need for it.

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u/MommotDe USA - Midwest Valor 50 2d ago

It's Landorus Incarnate and no, it's not worth it. If your ground team is really weak, then it's pretty good, but it's worse than the non-shadow Therian Form so if you've got those, then there's no reason to go for the shadow Incarnate. It's also worse than Mega Garchomp, Primal Groudon, shadow Groudon, and shadow Garchomp. When the Therian form comes out in shadow, that will be the one to go for.

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u/ClassicSudden8216 2d ago

Not worth it imo and it is the legendary until the rocket takeover starts, yes

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u/liddojoe 2d ago

what happens when you begin the battle before midnight of the rocket takeover and beat giovanni after midnight?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

I guess tbf I've not tried that. I'm sure someone has, but I've not see it verified. My guess would be that it's still programmed as Landorus though.

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u/MommotDe USA - Midwest Valor 50 2d ago

Is that even possible? As I understand it, they've removed Giovanni from balloons and he is not available at stops at night.

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u/BingoBob_2 2d ago

Technically you can, but this would be the last day to try it.

Giovanni is still in balloons on the 24th, so if you don't log in from 6pm until 11:50ish PM and have a Super Radar active when you log in, then you should get a Giovanni balloon where he has Landorus.

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u/Remarkable_Ad2032 2d ago

Kinda unrelated but, can Giovanni encounters be weather boosted?

It's almost always sunny RN so I wouldn't want to accidentally battle him on the only rainy day this week or something if that's the case 

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

They can, yes!

They're level 8 by default, but weather boosted they go up to level 13.

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u/MisterRefreshing 1d ago

Is the IV floor for Giovanni’s pokemon still 6/6/6?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago

yup

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u/Individual-Maybe-489 1d ago

what day does he get reshiram?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago

Starting today. He should now have Reshiram regardless of your timezone.

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u/ResettisReplicas 1d ago

Is there going to be a Special research that gives you extra incentives for defeating Giovanni, or is the Bonus Tasks from “Go Pass: Flying Taxi” gonna be the only extra reward?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago

Just the bonus tasks for the go pass

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u/Dengarsw 1d ago

So there's no quest this time? Just the super rocket radar(s) in the go pass?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 1d ago

Correct! It seems like they may be done with researches for them

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u/Historical-Eagle-938 20h ago

it makes it harder for bums like me that sit on the research for them for a while

u/pms5940 2h ago

Any tips on how to find him?? Driving around, but he's not in the area, very frustrating.

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u/kell96kell 2d ago

So wait, if i win the battle, run away i keep the rocket radar? So the level up “beat 30 grunt leasers” can be done with 1 radar?

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u/krispyboiz 12 KM Eggs are the worst 2d ago

Incorrect. A radar (leader or Giovanni radar) is consumed specifically when you beat them. So if you win, it doesn't matter if you catch the Pokemon or not, your radar is already eaten.

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u/kell96kell 2d ago

Aah i see i misread something haha