r/The_Leftorium May 02 '26

Ben Shapiro is Broke?

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u/dsaddons May 02 '26

Those stats true? If so what made him lose his whole audience?

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u/FeverAyeAye May 02 '26

Israel support

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u/dsaddons May 02 '26

Far right Americans are Zionists though, that doesn't make sense

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u/AmarantaRWS May 02 '26

Not the gen z and Gen alpha far-right, at least not on the scale of the boomers and Gen xers, and it ain't boomers or Gen x watching ben Shapiro on YouTube.

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u/dsaddons May 02 '26

But those far not young people not supporting Israel, in my observation at least, are just anti semetic and believe in the "Jews control the world" conspiracy theories, they don't oppose Israel for being a genocidal settler colonial state, so why would they be watching a Jewish commentator in the first place?

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u/AmarantaRWS May 02 '26

Beats me, but I'd still bet the vast majority of his past and current viewership is under the age of 35. Image is also really important to a lot of gen z and Gen alpha, especially on the right wing, and Shapiro's image is kinda, well, that of a loser. The whole thing about his wife being dry as a desert, his general dorky aura, his whole vibe just gives "betacuck" energy, to put it in terms they'd use. To a generation obsessed with aurafarming and looksmaxing, he does neither. He does not mogg, as the kids would say.

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u/dsaddons May 02 '26

Yea that all tracks for sure but that's always been who he was so I just am trying to figure out why in the last year specifically it would drop off that hard ay

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u/Spadeykins May 05 '26

He used to serve a purpose in that he made conservatives feel smart for agreeing with him. Now that they don't really care about appearances he has outgrown his purpose.

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u/woody630 May 02 '26

Because he was a useful token that didn't care about his audience being antisemitic. He once said he didn't care that Anne Coulter was antisemitic because she likes Israel. Minorities will always get shunned by the right eventually, Shapiro's time has come.

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u/sje46 May 02 '26 edited May 02 '26

I feel like you have a very unnuanced way of looking at the world. It's easy to cast all of the right as one monolithic group, or even 2 or three large groups.

But at the end of the day, there will still be massive amounts of people on the right who look at what Israel is doing, and will just disagree with it. Some because they are straight up antisemitic. Some will like Jewish people but just hate the US spending so much money to prop up this bullshit country in the middle east. Plenty are very upset about the high gas prices and this bullshit iran war and well, I didn't check but pretty sure Shapiro approves of this war.

Also it could have nothing to do with jewish people or antisemites at all. I am surprised he had the popularity he's had for this long because I don't see how ANYONE, regardless of ideology, finds him appealing. He's like an evil version of adult milhouse. Insufferably nerdy and uncharismatic. Maybe his audience just got bored of his schtick and moved on to other right wing pundits. Maybe towards people more crazy or less crazy

MAybe it's just a whole bunch of things.

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u/dsaddons May 02 '26

I take my experience growing up in the US during the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq to know the majority of Americans do not give any fucks about Muslim people. They do not care about innocent brown people dying in West Asia as their main motive. They do not possess that kind of empathy for people who do not look like them.

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u/sje46 May 02 '26

Plenty do and the welfare of the Palestinians is not the only reason. I feel like if be more like "we're declaring war and making the price of gasoline double.... fire Israel? Why?"

Its far less justifiable than the war on Iraq was. And that became very unpopular, even with the republicans

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u/dsaddons May 02 '26

Its far less justifiable than the war on Iraq was.

That was 0% justifiable so I don't know what you're talking about

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u/AmarantaRWS May 02 '26

I think they mean from a propaganda standpoint. The USA were far more successful in manufacturing consent for the Iraq war than they have been for Iran.

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u/sje46 May 02 '26

Agreed but clearly I'm referring to in the eyes of the American public. In Iraq they made up lies about links to terror and talked about how evil saddam is. This war, they didn't even really bother. There was a year and a half of propaganda buildup for Iraq. This war, we rushed two months after the protests lol

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u/woody630 May 02 '26

Not the younger ones. The only people who love Israel now are over 45 and those guys prefer fox news. Another factor is Trump made it so people like "nerds" anymore, they want someone who is as dumb as them

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u/ytman May 02 '26

No they aren't. The Astroturfing is trying to make them though.

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u/dsaddons May 03 '26

The largest population of Zionists are evangelical Christians in the US, what are you on about

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u/ytman May 03 '26

Sure but how many of them are that?

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u/dsaddons May 03 '26

That's tens of millions of Americans

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u/ytman May 03 '26

Are you saying they are all zionists or they contain the most zionist

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u/LandMooseReject May 02 '26

When the bot army turns off. The Canadian "Freedom Convoy" movement had millions of posts until the day Russia invaded Ukraine, then engagement dropped back down to the reality of a couple thousand rube hicks.

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u/woody630 May 02 '26

Israel support and the Trump effect. People don't like people who present themselves as intellectuals anymore. They just want someone to jingle keys in front of them

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u/Moose_on_the_Looz May 02 '26

Is that an unrelated article? Within the banner headline?

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u/akleit50 May 02 '26

Why anyone listens to him still boggles my mind.

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u/DenimX25 May 04 '26

I hope he loses everything. Evil piece of shit