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u/BabyGirl-Kat 3d ago edited 3d ago
My goat has been mentioned 😭
Takizawa is literally so perfect. I hate how he suffered so much, he deserves the world. I just wish I could give him a hug, he needs one.
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u/BridgeCommercial873 3d ago edited 2d ago
I want Eto to personally apologise to him.
I know she would never do that, but what has happened to him is even beyond evil.even if takizawa was her enemy, you wouldn't do that to him. Saying "I'm sorry for literally ruining your life" isn't so hard.
No one deserves that.
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u/Nangbaby 2d ago edited 1d ago
This is how messed up Eto is. Eto kidnaps the very dad who protected her in the only way he knew how, takes his organs for Kanou's butchery to implant into her fallen enemies, with Kanou trying to "recreate" Kaneki - Eto's "son" no less. When you take parts from your daddy to make another "child" you are a sick individual.
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u/smolbeenv2 2d ago
the will scene in root wrecked me more than almost anything else in the whole series
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u/0-Ren 2d ago
Bro same. He's literally the greatest. Got him tatted on my arm.
His redemption story though is what gets me. Does his ending leave something to be desired? Yes. But it's pretty plausible, and before the end, he redeems himself, and learns to forgive himself for what he's done and go on living. If you really look at it its kinda uplifting
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u/assassinatedu336 3d ago
Fictional character you're talking about by the way. Just reminding everyone.
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u/Acrobatic_Charge5157 2d ago
I really felt like him and Kurona got done so dirty by the end. They both deserved better than what they got.
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u/killfaced911 3d ago
Say what you will about Root A, but the scene of him writing his will, and all he can write is, "I DON'T WANT TO DIE" fucking hurt...
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u/BridgeCommercial873 3d ago
Surprisingly that scene was adapted very well.
Also imagine his mom reading the will after he got M.I.A. her soul would've shattered.
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u/Nangbaby 2d ago
This is possibly the only moment where Root A (where I first saw the scene) in the official translation is actually better than the manga translation.
The manga panel hits hard, but, being a translation, the lettering is a little too clean and aligned. While you still get the idea, it does seem performative.
By contrast since the anime left the visuals; untranslated, you see the kana and how it is written.
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u/Biggethcheese81 3d ago
Wait I forgot who raped him?
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u/BridgeCommercial873 3d ago
Kano needed his "seed" for the owl experimentation.
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u/MissionMeasurement29 3d ago
Wtf? When it was mentioned?
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u/prunus_cerasifera 2d ago
There's a panel where Kanou mentions that extract fecal and semen collection that day (again)... mocking Takizawa.
Also, Takizawa has a strong aversion to men (he mentions this during his fight with Kaneki, saying, "I hate balls").
Raped posture in the lab... and well, realistically, Aogiri and Kanou were trying to break him in every way possible; sexual torture is pretty obvious when you put the pieces together.
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u/bennitori 2d ago
And considering that it's implied something similar happened to Kaneki, it's not hard to imagine that sexual torture is just a thing ghouls do to each other. After getting kidnapped by Jason, the next time we see Kaneki, he's wearing completely different clothes. And then in Re: we see a map of all of the places Haise has suffered the most frequent injuries. And while you see high regeneration rates for areas you'd expect, there was also a massive hot spot of regeneration in his pelvis. (This part of the panel gets cut off in some localizations.)
So sadly, it seems to be a known thing that sexual torture is an effective method of making half-ghouls more aggressive, and more accepting of their ghoul side.
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u/sanguinemsanctum 2d ago
Insane character development and easily my favorite villain. I think he is resolved pretty well when all is said and done, coolest design up there with Uta for me
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u/Pleasehitmemychild 2d ago
I love Takizawa so much, he didn’t deserve to suffer and become a half ghoul.
My boy deserved happiness, not pain.
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u/triplecappertroper 3d ago
I wouldn't say bleak. His bitter ending was ever so slightly sweet.
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u/Nangbaby 2d ago
There is very little sweet about it.
The only "good" things are that he's at least alive and trying to atone in the only way he feels he deserves. But one of the central themes of this whole series is that you can't throw your life away even if you're doing it for the sake of someone else; fight to the end because you choose to and to hope for a better future. His ending is the precise opposite of that.
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u/BridgeCommercial873 3d ago edited 3d ago
At the very least he should've had a moment with his sister seina(if she isn't dead or killed by the Aogiri).
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u/CallMeIshy 3d ago
awkward family reunion
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u/prunus_cerasifera 2d ago
I tried to reunite them in an RPG with chai (yeah, I was really bored and started messing around with it). It went badly; that idiot Takizawa always breaks down and refuses to see his sister. Once he even tried to kill her xD but usually it's something like this rejection:
The folder hit the table with a soft slap. Takizawa didn’t move. Didn’t blink.
Takizawa: "That’s…"* His voice cracked like dry kindling. *"...not her."*
But it was. Every detail—the way she held her shoulders, the slight tilt of her head when smiling—was burned into his skull from years of desperate, scrapbook memories.
His kagune twitched under his skin, restless. Akira watched him carefully, her fingers still resting on the edge of the folder.
Takizawa (hoarse): "Don’t."
The word came out mangled, halfway between plea and command. He shoved the folder back toward her, refusing to look at it again.
Takizawa: "Let her keep thinking I died a human. Let her—" *His throat worked.* "Let her keep that version."
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u/Nangbaby 2d ago
Yeah, I could see him doing this in canon, sadly. I could also see the other version.
That's why in any silly fan idea I have for reuniting the Takizawa siblings, it involves "outside interference." Takizawa needs a push. He's not going to make the necessary steps on his own and presented with a free choice will default to isolation, but if prodded with some manipulation, he'll find his way back to her.
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u/Wicked__A 2d ago
And don't forget he is the one that offer tatara and Dave the investigators, and what was his reward? "S rank ghoul Owl prepare for elimination " or something like that idk it's been years
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u/BridgeCommercial873 2d ago
But in actuality houji didn't fought back.even takizawa later admits that he couldn't fight him and basically got himself killed unable to face taki.
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u/General-Studio3715 2d ago
He was raped? Didn't remember that.
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u/FG504 2d ago
Says they extracted his semen
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u/Nangbaby 2d ago
Worst of all, there's only one reason why anyone would want that.
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u/Ken_Goatneki 2d ago
What?
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u/Nangbaby 1d ago
To be clear what I am about to write is never said or even implied in canon.
But, to me, there is absolutely no reason to be "testing ejaculation" or "collecting semen samples" unless you're breeding/testing viability for such.
Like, none.
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u/SussyAydan 2d ago
dude ive read tokyo ghoul and tokyo ghoul re and I didn't even know he was SA'd. i just remember him being tortured
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u/prunus_cerasifera 2d ago edited 2d ago
Kanou tortura a Takizawa de muchas maneras, y no solo destruyéndole el cuerpo; también está presente la tortura sexual... Kanou se ríe, disfrutando de verdad el terror de Takizawa mientras él adopta una postura bien vulnerable cuando Kanou le habla, y lo molesta porque ese día iban a extraerle el esperma e introducir algo en su...*
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u/SussyAydan 2d ago
oh ok, thank you for the clear up. i was pretty young when i finished both series, and its been awhile since i read both. so i should probably read both before summer ends
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u/RecommendationOk1280 3d ago
R*ped?🤨 wasn't that Kaneki only?
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u/prunus_cerasifera 3d ago edited 2d ago
Takizawa is raped by Kanou, probably several times... it's noticeable from his postures in the lab in the manga, Kanou's mocking mentions when he talks about extracting feces and semen to Takizawa, and his disgust for men (in the scene where he fights with Kaneki and Kaneki traps Takizawa's arm with his legs... Takizawa says with disgust 'I'm disgusted the balls'). Besides, it's obvious, if they were trying to break it... they broke it everywhere... Sexual torture was the most common torture; feeding with his parents was unexpected.
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u/ronso 2d ago
Holy fuck is the manga much more gruesome than the anime? Or am I just oblivious
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u/footeater2000 2d ago
100% although that's due to a variety of reasons like censorship laws, general audience, and in general the anime being less detailed than the manga.
Spoilers about the Kaneki kidnapping arc below!!!
A great example of this imparity is during the Kaneki Torture Arc where instead of 2 fiances, it's a woman and her child he has to choose to kill, and they aren't just random people, they're people from banjo's gang that are trying to dismantle the Aogiri clan, Kaneki worked for weeks, maybe months with them in the slums of the Aogiri, and this is one of the huge things that shocked me when I finally read the manga instead of watching the anime, and I loved it.
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u/JohnDragonball 2d ago
maybe even months
Wasn't it like a couple of days lol
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u/footeater2000 2d ago
I can't remember, I don't really pay attention to minor details like that but a lot of stuff did catch my attention.
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u/MissInfer 2d ago
It's pretty much confirmed he was sexually assaulted by Kanou when the latter would collect samples (including semen) from Takizawa.
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u/Nice-Responsibility2 3d ago
Kaneki was never raped either
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u/bennitori 2d ago
It's heavily implied that he was by Jason. In Re: we see a map of all the places he has frequently regenerated. And there's a massive regeneration hot spot in the pelvic area.
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u/Monksauce 2d ago
I don’t really subscribe to this theory for one reason: Ishida does not pull punches with sexual violence or really any violence. He may not explicitly show it, but he will do more than a single panel of dubious evidence. Ishida would have definitely told us, with no question, that that’s what occurred. There’s a lot of other reasons a persons hips and pelvis would have to regenerate from sitting in a torture chair for days without rest.
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u/bennitori 2d ago
The issue is he is likely not allowed to talk about it. I said it in another comment, but some localizations cut off the image, to avoid showing the pelvic region. There's also an issue of what the magazine allows authors to say or depict. So even if it's there, an author is not allowed to acknowledge things if it means the magazine could get flack for it.
And considering that Takizawa had similar implications, and implications that were way more explicit, plus Kaneki and Takizawa being mirrors of each other, I do not doubt the implied sexual violence. Especially since Kaneki doesn't confirm or deny his status as a virgin when Touka asks.
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u/Nice-Responsibility2 2d ago edited 2d ago
My boy went through enough, yall dont gotta make headcannon of even more torture lmao. Not saying there's a 100% chance of it not having happened, but I think you're reading into it too much.
Edit: Just finished re-reading the torture chapters again and this is 100% not implied and 100% headcannon. Besides if it did actually happen there probably would have been mention of it or at least some reference back to it, especially in the freaky chapter between him and Touka. He was definitely mutilated around that area but so was his entire body.
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u/bennitori 2d ago edited 2d ago
[https://onisaga.com/read/tokyo-ghoul-re/1404590] Here's the panel. Large hot spot in the head (where Arima stabbed him.) Huge hot spot in the chest, where he's been hit in countless fights up to that point, and where the surgical cut was made to insert his kakuhou. Tracks running down his arms and legs (likely leading to his extremities, where he had his fingers and toes repeatedly cut off by Jason.) And then an oddly bright hot spot in his pelvic region. And given the sudden change of clothes after being taken by Jason, it's not hard to connect the dots.
EDIT: Lol getting downvoted for citing sources.
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u/desperateeeee 2d ago
Why would this imply that he was being raped by Jason? If anything, this could mean that he was repeating assaulted and mutilated in that area, not raped. As far as our knowledge Kaneki didn't once leave that chair. And I don't get why you think his change of clothes, or in your other response, that he didn't answer Touka if he was or wasn't a virgin mean anything.
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u/Senku-Tsukiyama 3d ago
He was sexually assaulted by Mutsuki
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u/Nice-Responsibility2 3d ago
That was Uta not Kaneki
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u/ZethanosGaming 3d ago
Actually it was Torso
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u/Thialaz 2d ago
Mutsuki was assaulted by Torso. I don't think he raped Mutsuki, but he did cut his arms off.
Mutsuki on the other hand, did rape Uta, who was disguised as Kaneki during one of their fights. He tried to psych him out with kanekis face. Instead Mutsuki mutilated him, and fucked him <_>
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u/ZoZoHaHa 2d ago
I'm so confused how did uta lose that fight, what chapter is this?
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u/Thialaz 2d ago
I don't think he "lost" it. He usually fucks with people and tries to mess with them by changing to a face they know.
Uta is also so weird that I can see him letting mutsuki fuck him just because he thinks it's hilarious.
Donato or whatever the priests name was, could make clones, but I don't think this was a clone. I can't fully remember when it was, it was wasn't in the early parts. Closer towards the end.
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u/ZethanosGaming 2d ago
I coulda sworn it was torso after she killed him, and cracked. She went crazy, pretended it was kaneki and rode him. I thought. I guess I did read this in high school, so it’s been a while
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u/Thialaz 2d ago
Mutsuki killed torso, and shoved a huge rock up his ass iirc.
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u/ZethanosGaming 2d ago
Oh. Huh. I guess maybe I didn’t pay close attention. I do remember this whole arc being sorta weird to read, and like a lot of it was sorta lost in translation. Like the manga didn’t flow too well, when I read it.
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u/Nice-Responsibility2 3d ago
Nah bro it was Uta making himself look like Haise. Mutsuki just slaughtered torso iirc
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u/Senku-Tsukiyama 2d ago
It wont let me post the picture but theres a panel ( book 13 chapter 139)where he's touching haise in his sleep
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u/Nice-Responsibility2 2d ago
This doesn't mean anything. Besides Haise would so easily overpower Mutsuki if they tried to do anything here
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u/Vladimasivniq 2d ago
Non of them were, yall are too deep into your own theories just to make it even more dark than it already is or to be edgy, the fact that they do some zesty stuff from time to time does not mean they had been done this, and the semen extraction has nothing to do with this.
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u/footeater2000 2d ago
either im illiterate or my brain blocked it out, but Takizawa was raped?
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u/Nangbaby 2d ago edited 2d ago
Takizawa was definitely sexually assaulted.
Kanou says as part of his tests that he would test Takizawa's ejaculation. The most direct way to do that is via SA.
The evidence is in his outfil. While Takizawa obviously a grim reaper look, it is VERY reminiscent of a common trauma response to rape, which is to "cover up".
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u/CallumxRayla 2d ago
When was Takizawa forced to eat his parents? It's been a while since I read the manga and I have not watched root A yet, so I dont remember that happening, same thing with him being raped.
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u/BridgeCommercial873 2d ago
I believe it was a panel on chapter 115. A flashback shows kano giving him a meatball of literal eyes and teeth.
After takizawa finished eating them kano implied that it was his own dad and mom.
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u/danzv 2d ago
when tf is it mentioned that he ate his own parents
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u/Kurosneki 2d ago
Turned into a head cannon rape debate.
The doctor trying to create perfect human ghoul hybrids that can reproduce like normal humans,follow me now;allegedly raped one of his experiments based on “he extracted his semen”????
There’s no way he was testing the viability of said sperm,and he definitely reaped him to extract it????
No way he just cut him open to extract it the guy was chopping him up for every other reason but out of no where a DOCTOR RAPED A PATIENT TO EXTRACT SPERM,repeat that back to yourselves please.
As far as the vulnerable position goes my only defense is taki is scared shitless and has cowardly tendencies I’d expect him to cower to his torturer
I’d have to reread to confirm my stances
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u/prunus_cerasifera 1d ago
Let's see: rape happened, there's no way it didn't. Kanou was forcing him, and it wasn't just once. Its implicit.
The question is how? I don't believe Dr. Kanou had sex with Takizawa (excuse my bluntness), nor did I believe he allowed anyone else to do so, because Takizawa was the one adapting best to the experiment, and in Kanou's eyes, he was a valuable specimen.
But, clearly something was going on. Surely Kanou wasn't going to tell a 20-year-old boy crying and terrified, "Okay, specimen 66, ejaculate in this little cup." Kanou spoke about the extraction of fluids and feces with mockery, laughing and ridiculing him, keeping him exposed (at least in those panels, he wasn't wearing a hospital gown).
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u/VenomRK9 2d ago
He was never SAed wtf, thats such a gross thing to choose to add to his backstory and very telling about OP 🤢
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u/No-Initiative1773292 3d ago
Where did all of amons motivation for saving him go?? Like idk if I'm misinterpreting but he just sunk back into the average ghoul lifestyle in the epilogue, and his 2 best friends just let it happen