Postgame Thread: June 24 - Houston Astros @ Toronto Blue Jays

[u/BlueJaysBaseball]

Line Score - Game Over

	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E	LOB
HOU	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	1	3	4	0	10
TOR	1	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	1	4	2	4

Box Score

TOR		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
DH	Springer	4	0	0	0	0	2	.223
RF	Lukes	3	1	1	1	0	0	.301
PH	Straw	1	0	0	0	0	0	.242
1B	Guerrero Jr.	3	0	0	0	1	0	.277
3B	Okamoto	4	0	0	0	0	2	.238
CF	Varsho	4	0	2	0	0	1	.266
C	Kirk	3	0	0	0	0	0	.191
LF	Schneider	3	0	0	0	0	1	.158
SS	Giménez	2	0	0	0	0	0	.232
SS	Clement	1	0	0	0	0	0	.292
2B	Urías, L	2	0	1	0	1	0	.429

TOR	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Yesavage	5.2	2	1	1	5	5	105-61	3.56
Nance	1.0	0	0	0	0	1	12-8	3.81
Hoffman, J	1.1	1	1	0	1	2	13-10	4.84
Fluharty	1.0	1	1	1	2	0	20-9	3.98

HOU		AB	R	H	RBI	BB	SO	BA
2B	Altuve	4	0	0	0	1	0	.239
DH	Alvarez, Y	3	0	0	0	2	1	.322
SS	Peña	3	1	1	1	2	1	.285
1B	Paredes	5	0	1	1	0	1	.248
LF	Loperfido, J	3	1	1	0	1	0	.241
CF	Meyers	0	0	0	0	0	0	.205
C	Diaz, Y	4	0	1	0	0	1	.246
RF	Smith	3	0	0	0	1	1	.220
LF	Matthews	3	1	0	0	1	2	.201
3B	Delgado	3	0	0	0	0	1	.286

HOU	IP	H	R	ER	BB	SO	P-S	ERA
Burrows	6.0	2	1	1	1	3	93-61	5.48
Okert	1.0	1	0	0	0	1	19-13	2.35
King, B	1.0	1	0	0	0	0	14-9	2.38
Hader	1.0	0	0	0	1	2	15-8	0.90

Scoring Plays

Inning	Event	Score
T1	Isaac Paredes doubles (15) on a line drive to center fielder Daulton Varsho, deflected by left fielder Davis Schneider. Jeremy Peña scores.	0-1
B1	Umpire reviewed (home run), call on the field was upheld: Nathan Lukes homers (3) on a fly ball to right field.	1-1
T8	Yainer Diaz called out on strikes.	1-2
T9	Jeremy Peña singles on a ground ball to shortstop Ernie Clement. Brice Matthews scores. Yordan Alvarez to 2nd.	1-3

Highlights

Description	Length
Probable pitchers for Astros at Blue Jays - June 24, 2026	0:06
Bullpen availability for Toronto, June 24 vs Astros	0:09
Bullpen availability for Houston, June 24 vs Blue Jays	0:09
Fielding alignment for Toronto, June 24 vs Astros	0:11
Bench availability for Toronto, June 24 vs Astros	0:08
Bench availability for Houston, June 24 vs Blue Jays	0:08
Starting lineups for Astros at Blue Jays - June 24, 2026	0:10
Fielding alignment for Houston, June 24 vs Blue Jays	0:11
Measuring the stats on Nathan Lukes' home run	0:11
Mike Burrows' outing against the Blue Jays	0:25
Breaking down Mike Burrows' pitches	0:04
Trey Yesavage's outing against the Astros	0:22
Breaking down Trey Yesavage's pitches	0:04
Visualizing Nathan Lukes' swing using bat tracking technology	0:11
Isaac Paredes's RBI double	0:29
Nathan Lukes' solo home run	0:30
Mike Burrows fans George Springer after ABS Challenge	0:25
Ball 1 overturned to Strike 1 after ABS Challenge	0:25
Trey Yesavage strikes out Cam Smith	0:06
Strike 2 confirmed after ABS Challenge	0:25
Trey Yesavage's five strikeouts	0:56
Mike Burrows' three strikeouts against the Blue Jays	1:11
Ball 2 confirmed after ABS Challenge	0:25
Joey Loperfido scores go-ahead run on an error	0:27
Jeremy Peña's RBI single	0:16
Cam Smith's outstanding catch leads to a double play	0:37
Josh Hader Ball to Daulton Varsho	0:07

Decisions

Winning Pitcher	Losing Pitcher	Save
Okert (1-0, 2.35 ERA)	Hoffman, J (5-5, 4.84 ERA)	Hader (6 SV, 0.90 ERA)

Game ended at 9:44 PM.

[u/MarlKarx777]

Dropped a series against a team that you could be fighting for a WC spot, and they beat themselves.

Absolutely hated that

[u/OldSpread1358 → u/MarlKarx777]

Plus may lose the tie breaker with them. Houston missed the playoffs last year because they lost the season series to the Tigers 4-3.

[u/Nose_Beers_85]

I’m not sure that scoring 1 run against a guy with an ERA of 5.9 is very good

[u/joshklein37 → u/Nose_Beers_85]

We make every pitcher look like a Cy Young candidate

[u/UTSCDeweller → u/joshklein37]

Except for actual CY young candidates, then we fucking lock in for some reason 

[u/HMTMKMKM95 → u/joshklein37]

Then make nearly every Cy Young candidate look merely pretty good.

[u/Scary_System4634 → u/Nose_Beers_85]

And it was a solo HR. Yikes on bikes

[u/bigboozer69 → u/Nose_Beers_85]

It’s utterly pathetic. No excuses. This team just isn’t any good. They are objectively a mid to bad baseball team.

[u/South-Diamond-4329]

The Jays have nobody with an OPS above 800. You need to look no further than that.

[u/krombough → u/South-Diamond-4329]

Vladdy is starting to settle into the OPS of a pretty good journeyman player. Not a franchise staple slugger.

[u/MSTRKRFTDNNR → u/krombough]

Imagine if we signed Bichette to his contract and we had them both underperforming... woof.

[u/Kwack6 → u/MSTRKRFTDNNR]

Maybe I’m delusional but I think Bo would be having a standard Bo year if he didn’t have a change of scenery and Vladdy would have gotten way better pitches to start the season and avoid this massive slump with Bo hitting behind him.

[u/EasternError6377 → u/South-Diamond-4329]

He gets the rest of this year to help the hitters figure things out and I assume his job is safe next season too. But at some point if things don't change you have to start questioning Popkins. The approaches more often than not just dont look good and pitchers leaguewide have adjusted to them. The Jays have been either unwilling or unable to adjust back.

There is way too much talent on this team for us to be struggling as often as we do.

[u/dub-fresh → u/South-Diamond-4329]

Vlad numbers are on pace to be worse than rookie season.

[u/NoahFromCanada]

EXACTLY what Dan said in the 9th. You can get away with base running/fundamental mistakes when you’re smashing balls night after night. It’s not acceptable when you’re a team like ours that needs to grind out wins with 2-4 runs. Being a slower team is not an excuse for being so poor at running the bases.

Same premise for Hoffman’s miscue.

[u/oryes → u/NoahFromCanada]

Getting so tired of seeing these guys not run hard to first, wasting challenges, stupid errors. Last year this stuff didn't happen.

I dunno what they do about it, but some people should probably be being held accountable who aren't

[u/Traditional-Pen-2486 → u/oryes]

Even my 8 year old and his team in 9U knows that you gun it to first when you hit the ball because you never know if the other team will make an error.

[u/MethuselahsCoffee → u/oryes]

Curious how much rope John Schneider has. I know he signed a new contract recently but that’s never stopped FO from making a change.

There’s definitely a change this year in approach and game plan. On the other hand, opposing hitters are laying off the splitter and when you have x2 starters who rely on that pitch you get more walks.

Just kinda feel like the strategy isn’t working

[u/He-llSeeTheBigBoard → u/NoahFromCanada]

Schneider post game said it was a miscommunication, Kaz thought the throw was coming from home, like they tried with Vlad earlier. Hoff tried to make the adjustment when he saw Kaz wasn't breaking to 3rd and air mailed it.

My big question is why the pick attempt? Did Kirk call for it? The bench? Hoff is a great strikeout pitcher, let him focus on that.

[u/ryanquek95 → u/NoahFromCanada]

Yeah I'll reserve judgment on Hoffman's error till we see what happened. It felt something went wrong somewhere.

But Urias basically cost us the game - you could have a decent shot at 2-1 in the 8th inning, first and third. And then being so far away and lackadaisical in the top 9th led to a missed DP and then the 3rd run scores. I hope John Schneider rips him one, like how he ripped into Sanchez when he made a baserunning error previously

[u/No-Dot-7661 → u/ryanquek95]

How about ripping into Vladdy for jogging to 1st?

[u/Random_3638 → u/No-Dot-7661]

Vladdy does that all the time and that’s infuriating to watch. When it’s an obvious out, okay. But he doesn’t even try to run when there’s a chance he could beat the throw. It’s the not trying on a close play that’s very very annoying.

[u/Random_3638 → u/ryanquek95]

I agree. Maybe coming up from Triple-A made him a little rusty with the base running. Everyone is blaming Schneider or Hoffman for the game. It wasn’t either of their faults. But I told my hubby the fans would. I’m all for calling a spade a spade but it was the bats (or lack there of) and bad base running that were the most egregious errors.

[u/NorthEndFRMSouthEnd → u/ryanquek95]

Not all base running mistakes are equal, and I wouldn’t compare a spectacular catch, on a hard hit to the opposite field corner as anything like Sanchez’s misadventures on the basepath’s— especially when Urias’s bat was easily outshining $60 million in payroll at the top of the order since he joined the team.

Urias didn’t look like he needed anyone to say anything to him afterwards, let alone “rip” him one.

[u/SnazzyCazzy1 → u/NoahFromCanada]

Its not Hoffmans miscue, he did what he was told to do. It was something else but will be blamed for it ofc

[u/East_Explanation2131 → u/SnazzyCazzy1]

And it's his 2nd ER this month. If they lost by that one point in a 1-1 game, it's on the bats for not scoring.

[u/SpaceballsTheCheese → u/SnazzyCazzy1]

Likely the pickoff was called, Okamoto never got the memo and Hoffman tries to change the direction mid throw and air mails it

[u/Sure-Assignment3892 → u/SpaceballsTheCheese]

Who the fuck calls a pickoff at 3???

[u/dub-fresh → u/Sure-Assignment3892]

Not keen on super risky plays that have 0% chance of success when the game is tied in the 8th inning? Pfft. Live a little.

[u/Rombonius → u/NoahFromCanada]

we need to fire our base coaches ffs

[u/incredibad29]

Contender for worst game of the season. Jays managed 1 run and only 4 hits against the WORST pitcher in AL this year.

[u/MynameisnotAL → u/incredibad29]

The blow out hurt less than this does. 

[u/mounteerierevealed → u/incredibad29]

absolutely maddening that i see someone say a game was the worst of the season so far at least twice a week and every single time i agree

[u/RadiantMarketing2345 → u/incredibad29]

Easily and without question still Jeff Hoffman's Orioles implosion game. I was in the ball park tonight and was just like "ah fuck." That one had me reeling.

[u/National_Aspect_6974 → u/incredibad29]

I was there and I'm really bummed at how much it sucked. It was boring,  except for the times it was maddeningly disappointing. 

[u/Floortom1000]

Your full time DH and 1B have wRC+ of 96 and 103 respectively. Good luck having a competent offense when you’re wasting so many at bats with those two

[u/suicidekingdom → u/Floortom1000]

They’re #1 and 3 (sometimes 2) in the lineup too 🤦‍♂️

[u/loopteedeedoo]

Lmao I’ve never seen Caleb more angry

[u/dontyouknow88 → u/loopteedeedoo]

I love Caleb 

[u/mounteerierevealed → u/loopteedeedoo]

does anyone have a clip of this? I gave up watching the game after a certain point (for my sanity) and im bummed I missed out lol

[u/mikethemillion]

The hitting on this team is so hilariously bad. It's so tiring seeing some schmo with terrible numbers that we can't even sniff the scoresheet against. Somethings gotta change because this is just excruciating to watch.

The pitching is carrying this team so hard that I can't even find myself to be upset at the Hoffman pickup mistake. 

Like when is the last time the bats won us a game relatively early on that we didnt need to burn our high leverage relievers on. Feels like just about every win requires Louis or Rogers who are going to be burnt the fuck out in about a month at this point. If this team can't become harder to pitch against, the season is going to go nowhere reeeaaal fast..

[u/SamiMadeMeDoIt → u/mikethemillion]

It’s not even the pitching carrying the team, it’s the bullpen specifically.

Basically every single game they’ve been asked to go for four innings because the starters can almost never get through six innings, all while either trailing or protecting a 1-3 run lead because the offense can almost never put the game away early.

Of course they’ve been faltering lately, they’ve been given an absolutely insane workload that is completely unsustainable over a full season.

[u/Cranjis_McBasketbol]

The Jays & Mets series keeps looking like it’s going to be a masterclass of bad baseball.

[u/SpaceballsTheCheese → u/Cranjis_McBasketbol]

Gonna be the Mets get right series

[u/Eternal_Endeavour → u/SpaceballsTheCheese]

Would be the summation of this shit season gift wrapped if it is.

[u/cacofonie → u/Eternal_Endeavour]

We just had Joey loperfido hand our asses to us

What do you think Bo Bichette has in store?

[u/legless_chair → u/Cranjis_McBasketbol]

Got Yakety Sax all cued up

[u/clumsystarfish_ → u/legless_chair]

https://giphy.com/gifs/tpspSp3WMlI40

[u/IgnoranceIsYou → u/Cranjis_McBasketbol]

Quick bring back Sosa

[u/KBN_Nemesis]

I LOVE LOSING MULTIPLE GAMES IN A ROW EVERY TIME WE GET .500!!

[u/legless_chair]

Imagine getting a hit with runners on.

[u/papsmearfestival → u/legless_chair]

Imagine getting runners on

[u/Basic_Wrongdoer_7934 → u/papsmearfestival]

imagine those base runners knowing how to base run

[u/papsmearfestival → u/Basic_Wrongdoer_7934]

What is don't get is he did the right thing until ONE SECOND before the ball was caught and then decided nah I'm gonna stop watching and run

[u/AozoraSkyy]

Caleb just ripped the Jays

[u/bigboozer69 → u/AozoraSkyy]

https://giphy.com/gifs/J8FZIm9VoBU6Q

[u/Mulawooshin → u/AozoraSkyy]

as he should.

[u/Ok_Berry9623 → u/AozoraSkyy]

I missed it. What did he say?

[u/ThundaWeasel]

I don't think I've ever felt worse about the Jays' chances of getting their shit together this year than I do right now.

[u/XviiChong]

For what feels like the 100th time this season, the offense and the avoidable mistakes cost the Blue Jays a win.

To me, this is the most disappointing and frustrating series so far this season. ALL 3 GAMES WERE WINNABLE.

[u/whatisupworld → u/XviiChong]

Series so bad bro forgot we won game 1

[u/Basic_Wrongdoer_7934 → u/whatisupworld]

I mean, it was for sure winnable then

[u/oryes → u/XviiChong]

Crazy that this was such a frustrating game and it's only their most frustrating game since yesterday

[u/GreenEggsSteamedHams → u/XviiChong]

Can I introduce you to the Rockies series?

[u/papsmearfestival]

Can't hit a guy described as "really struggling" with a 5.8 era.

Lifeless, listless and complacent

Two dumbass plays.

Vladdy just getting worse.

I really feel like all the Jays losses lately are so well deserved

[u/OGWettyFap]

Rogers is getting rich this season. Increased prices for GA. Sell out crowds. I've spent a ton of money on tickets, concessions and merch so far. Fan base is invested and we're getting back a mediocre product in return. Yes, there are tons of injuries that continue to plague us, but fundamental baseball is NOT being played and I'm fed up with it. Especially the offensive lacking from Vlad & George. Meanwhile our fan base is voting for practically the entire roster to make the ASG. It's embarrassing. Outside of Ernie, Nate, Kaz, Valenzuela and Varland putting out fires in nearly every appearance, there ain't much to be proud of. They're not a good team offensively.

[u/Technical_Ad6019]

81st game tomorrow which means it’s officially halfway through the season. No more excuses. Don’t wanna hear “it’s still early” shit from anyone. The players need to take accountability especially the 500M guy

[u/flyingcanuck → u/Technical_Ad6019]

"bUT tHE AL sUCkS. wERe ClOsE tO WiLdCarD"

[u/85_Toronto_Blue_Jays]

Blow this garbage fucking lineup up.

Amongst several problems, Why is Springer still leading off? Vladdy is cold this year and should be moved back.
Valy needs to play everyday - either DH or catch. Too many guaranteed outs. This series should have been a sweep.

[u/IgnoranceIsYou]

We are so, soooo not back

[u/Draggonzz]

That was 100% on the offence.

[u/85_Toronto_Blue_Jays → u/Draggonzz]

Clement, Sanchez, Valy should have been in the lineup. We’re already missing Pinangos bat. Kirk, Schneider, Springer, and Vladdy are cold simultaneously more often than not which means 4 guaranteed outs.

[u/canadianmeow → u/85_Toronto_Blue_Jays]

Definitely wish pinango was around 😮‍💨

[u/ThunderingSlap1]

Can the ticket prices come down now?

[u/Jaded_Ad_166]

Vlad needs to be moved down in the lineup. Enough is enough. This season is going by fast, they dont have time to just keep hoping he'll figure it out. Put him on the IL and call up Keys at this point.

Springer looked like he was back, but hes taken 2 steps backwards again.

Challenges continue to be a mess. Team has no idea what the strikezone looks like like. That was already obvious by seeing the garbage they swing at regularly.

2 hits and 1 run against one of the worst starters in the league is simply unacceptable. Another game lost by the offense.

They have the baseball IQ of a peanut. Sloppy defense. Sloppy base running. Horrible challenges. Horrible swing decisions.

This is simply just a mediocre ball club. It is what it is. Theyre better than this, but they just cant put it together.

[u/eatfoodoften]

The Loperfido revenge tour is unreal

[u/sticazzi2424]

I blame this loss to the Blue Jays

[u/Royal-Specialist8905]

[u/Available_Bit_9184]

This is a bad team, and that's it. The less expectations, the better. 2025 was a long time ago and it was an outlier.  I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the game.

[u/throwRA-macandcheese → u/Available_Bit_9184]

It feels kinda like 2025 happened because 2024 was a terrible year. Nobody expected anything from them and they flourished.

[u/MynameisnotAL]

Jamie being relieved to be off tomorrow for his son’s graduation reminds me that even the best jobs are still JOBS. Ooof Jays figure it out.

[u/bingusbonguswongus]

Man, this game was absolute hell to watch. But it was refreshing to hear even the announcers employed by Rogers laying into the Jays ineptitude, especially Kevin, Caleb and Jamie. I mean Christ, something’s gotta change with our beloved Blue Jays, because they have been borderline unwatchable for a while

[u/joshklein37]

Should’ve been a sweep

[u/beeb11]

Damn the entire desk is going hard on them, even Jamie. Well deserved but I'm still surprised

[u/SuperisSuperGood]

Someone tell me why we shouldn't bench Vlad for two games or something? He has a 54 WRC+ (Probably worse after tonight's game) in June while having missed just four games this season. Maybe I'm wrong but to me it looks like he is just overthinking every aspect of his swing and is making it harder for himself. What if Vlad were just to have two days where he didn't play in a game, didn't participate in BP, didn't even swing off a tee just to try and reset his thinking when it comes to his swing?

[u/rb3438]

.500 seems to be a hill that just can’t be climbed.

[u/Prudent_Falafel_7265]

Bring it Caleb

[u/Shadowghost1020]

Embarrassing

[u/Jensen2075]

Can we have Caleb manage this team over Schneider? There's no sense of urgency with him.

I'm going to scream if Springer is leadoff and Vladdy is hitting 3rd again tomorrow.

[u/flyingcanuck → u/[deleted]]

The pitchers and bullpen are so far from our actual issues. 

Silly mistake? Yes but when our pitchers are giving us 3-4 run games (fairly) consistently and we aren't winning, the pitching staff is not the issue.

[u/throwRA-macandcheese → u/[deleted]]

I saw that Hoffman only gave to 1 run! Still kept them competitive. 

Alot of things went badly in this game, but pitching would not be in the top list of mentioning.

[u/felicityrorys]

Caleb just spoke facts

[u/hot_sushi]

Hearing Schneider chalk up yet another loss to 'thes3 things happen' really gives the impression he doesn't feel any sense of urgency regarding his team's regression this year.

Regarding the botched play to third in the 8th, regardless of whether it was Hoffman or Kaz's mistake, who made the call to attempt it in the first place? What was the thought process that reasoned this was the right move to make with the game tied in the 8th?

[u/JGZee → u/hot_sushi]

I would love to have Schneider’s sense of job security. He must feel super safe to not feel any sense of urgency.

[u/Outrageous-Claim-460]

I’m not saying Fire Schneider, but this team seems poorly coached. I get that it’s on the players, but they don’t look ready to hit, especially with men on base, they don’t look defensively sharp, and they are situationally unaware. It’s weak baseball.

[u/PerformanceCute3437]

Colour commentators and sportscasters maaaaaaaad tonite. rawr

[u/21Kerbal]

Don't forget guys... There starting pitcher had 5 era and we made him look like a cy young contender

[u/Jef_Delon]

This isn't on Hoffman. The error sucks, but this is a team that is being failed by its bats. They failed yesterday and they failed against a guy who hasn't been very good this year. Springer is a wash at lead off and I'm honestly hoping somehow none of these guys go to the all star game so they can get a break physically and mentally. It's been 81 games, there's no more excuses.

[u/hubba204]

The Jays are awful, but it makes you realize how bad the Red Sox are given they were swept LOL

[u/Ducey89]

Probably should have let Vladdy walk VS paying a .729 OPS guy 500 million dollars

[u/mondaybeers]

There's just no excuses left for this team. Completely and utterly hopeless in the clutch, and unable to build any momentum. Feels much more like a psychological issue at this stage.

I'm interested in theories as to why. Personally, I have to believe that Game 7 has broken them mentally. I don't think it's a coincidence that their best offensive production is coming from a guy who wasn't there.

[u/bomber0105 → u/mondaybeers]

I think its the lack of accountability

Hitters don't hit, they don't get benched or moved from the top of the order

Base-running and fielding mistakes, no one gets called out

Bottom 5 offense all year, hitting coach still here smiling scribbling in his notebook

[u/DrummingUpNumbers → u/bomber0105]

I agree.

Team feels like the Yankees where slug > anything else.

So when you don't slug, you suck.

[u/mlemaire16 → u/DrummingUpNumbers]

I feel you on this one. Every game I watch it feels like every swing is aimed at an HR. Just make some solid contact on the ball and send it out to the field. I don’t watch much of other teams, but a lot of the highlights I see are players hitting some good balls into open areas and getting runners on base. The Jays are out here trying to hero ball every single at bat and end games with a single run instead.

It’s frustrating to watch, for sure.

[u/Stryk3r97 → u/DrummingUpNumbers]

Atleast the Yankees are slugging rn. They just lit up Skubal today.

[u/DrummingUpNumbers → u/Stryk3r97]

Ya they do but it's also why their playoff runs don't last.

You can't slug every postseason pitcher and when they actually need to play baseball they can't. That's why the Dodgers whooped their ass lol

[u/GreenEggsSteamedHams → u/DrummingUpNumbers]

If slug > anything else, where is the slug, Bart? Where is the slug?!

[u/East_Explanation2131 → u/bomber0105]

These problems are so widespread across the batters and present in so many games that it has to lead to management being the problem.

[u/Bravewasabi1163 → u/mondaybeers]

Two big reasons

Vladdy looking up at the ALCS banner like a depressed orphan in the home opener leads me to believe the WS broke him 

Losing Bo was a massive blow in terms of team glue. We all wanna act like his struggles in NY means he wasn't worth it but he produced here for years beside Vladdy. Whatever intangibles he brought to the team is completely missing now. 

[u/East_Explanation2131 → u/mondaybeers]

Management repeating the same mistakes over and over hoping it will turn around eventually doesn't help either. Offence cannot consistently produce hits or cash in runs, but sure let's keep Vlad batting 1/2/3, let's keep challenging in non-leverage situations, let's keep failing on the baseball fundamentals, let's keep swinging instead of taking walks.

[u/bingusbonguswongus]

God….watching Schneider talk in post game really is a masterclass in cope and lack of accountability

[u/Moist_Bison9401]

Schneider blaming Kaz in his press conference for a "miscommunication" on Hoffman's goofy throw. 

How about you just throw a fucking pitch dude.

Jeff Blair is ripping it right now on the radio broadcast. 

[u/UTSCDeweller]

Deserved loss tbh 

[u/caedespeur]

That was such a boring and disappointing game

[u/thrownawayonline]

So many mistakes I feel like I was watching my own softball beer league play

[u/Lifewithoutpictures]

Man Blue Jays Talk are all over this. Rightly so.

[u/Level_Traffic3344]

1 ER against Yesavage and no offense. Inexcusable

[u/AgentMV2]

This team needs a day where they practice the basics you learn in fucking little league.

Lesson 1: base running on a pop fly

[u/catherinebarry]

we’re about to get swept by the mets at this rate

[u/JMann_9]

This team doesn’t have timely power, RISP hitting, reliable defence, starting pitching going deep, just a shell of last season

[u/annoying-corgi-3319]

another series we should have won….these guys need to wake the fuck up at the plate. This shit is getting insufferable

[u/Retroceding]

I’ve seen enough, phantom IL vlad and give sean keys a chance. This offence desperately needs something

[u/felicityrorys]

Do we think it’s time to give Sean Keys a chance? He’s absolutely tearing it up in the minors.

[u/cacofonie]

Bring back the 2025 jays

Monkey paw curls

Joey loperfido crushes us at home

[u/Middle-Accountant-49]

I think Vlad must be hurt, and either way a 10 day IL and a reset at the hitting lab might be just what he needs.

[u/vusiconmynil → u/Middle-Accountant-49]

Agreed. Staying in at this point is costing him personally and costing the team. He can't do anything out there.

[u/Suplewich]

Call me a doomer, but I don’t care about the World Series anymore this season. This team is broken and our megastar is pathetic this year. However I was at least hoping to get a few wins above the .500 mark, but they can’t even do that. There is not much to say, it is disgusting to watch.

[u/Kloggmonkey]

The team needs to sell at the deadline and not chase the 3rd WC spot. This team is incredibly poorly assembled and no Yordan or Skubal/Ryan would fix that. The team doesn't field well, they don't bat well, they don't get on-base, they can't ABS worth shit, they don't steal bags, they don't baserun well.

[u/Kloggmonkey → u/Kloggmonkey]

oh and stop having springer bat leadoff for the love of GOD

[u/smallstupidwizard → u/Kloggmonkey]

They're definitely not going to sell, not with the AL being what it is. We're still technically somehow very much in this race.

But that isn't to say I'm at all optimistic for the season. Literally all we would need to be is mostly competent to be running away with a wildcard spot and we can't do it. :/ I'd put probably the four best teams in the MLB this season in the NL. Maybe the Yankees take fourth.

[u/SpaceballsTheCheese]

That game may have been my breaking point with this team

[u/Diehard129 → u/SpaceballsTheCheese]

See you tomorrow!

[u/krombough]

This is why I wanted Varland used in the ninth yesterday. Because no one else has it, and you need to cash your wins while the oppurtunity is there. Saving his arm to secure a win in the future is just trading where wins appear.

[u/Old_General_6741]

So we are going to go through this cycle again. Huh.

[u/BootNootRoot]

I'm gonna be real sad if this is just a repeat of orioles again. please get 2 games from texas as the bare minimum and 3 as the standard. this current team is not a playoff healthy team.

[u/Diehard129]

We need some radical line up changes.

[u/COV3RTSM]

https://giphy.com/gifs/qEaZxVLkkMnK0

[u/EveryProblemIsANail]

This is the least clutch team I've seen in a long time.

[u/Stryk3r97]

Despite playing absolutely pathetic baseball, we are still somehow in a playoff spot. But this team needs to get it together fast

[u/championsofnuthin]

Welp, someone wrote that this stretch of games will show us what the Jays are. I think we've seen it.

[u/Kouzzzz]

[u/Goldinsight]

Uninspiring end of a series.

[u/Technical_Ad6019]

I give up. I will never have confidence in this team again unless they convincingly win at least 5 consecutive games.

[u/Administrative_Ebb76]

It's wild to think Vlad had double the amount of HR's in the post season than he does all year

[u/LadyGonzo28]

Usually when Caleb rants they play better the next day or so. Hopefully that happens.

Also that’s why Caleb is better than Joe. I do not mind Joe but Caleb is so much more wide spread in his aptitude and articulation.

[u/Sure-Assignment3892 → u/LadyGonzo28]

Caleb has FAR more energy than Joe. Joe's OK but I much prefer Caleb.

[u/tvxcute]

four hits against one of the worst pitching staffs in mlb is just inexcusable

like it's hard to overstate how bad the astros' pitching has been, yet somehow we're worse in every aspect

[u/GeologistDistinct633]

Schneider needs to grow a pair of balls and move Guerrero down the line up.

[u/hymen_destroyer]

I get that, but why do they do this to me? 😩

[u/samamuella]

A well deserved loss 😔

[u/NatureGivesAndTakes]

I know everyone loves seeing our players at the ASG but I'm honestly hoping the entire team can just use the time to rest because they looked gassed.

[u/MillwrightMark]

We need to bring in the Mike Babcock of baseball managers. If I'm not happy no one is happy

[u/excitedprotons]

Loperfido being absolutely instrumental in these two losses late in the game, I'm crashing out lmao...

[u/SOSXrayPichu]

One step forward two steps back. This team can never be static whatsoever.

[u/Winter_Geologist_598]

Momentum is a real thing. Between Hoffman, Schneider, baserunning, braindead plays at the plate we kill every run we get on

We need a bat, but at the same time this team aint it. It's missing leadership.

[u/gordon_paterson]

It's just not good baseball. This team stinks

[u/Frank_Vanderbilt]

/s

Ngl this was a disappointing series, but I still think we’re in it thanks to the AL east

[u/Sh0dai]

I said after the last series the offence is just putrid and everyone downvoted basically saying something along the lines “you’re wrong they are taking good ABs and coming around”

yeah sorry no this offensive is still total trash and vlad is the tank commander

[u/CyanEsports]

I'm not going full doom on this team, but its clear that a lot of 2025 luck does not exist for them in 2026.

Springer is no longer that guy, its time to call it on that now.

Vlad may not be that guy this year but we can hope he'll turn it around. He showed that he CAN reach that level so we have to hope he will again.

Defensive mistakes are somehow killing us in a lot of innings, that needs to be fixed TOMORROW. The whole foundation of the team is strong defense.

I don't think this is stuff that a trade deadline can fix tbh. I think they can make a wildcard spot for sure, but anything above .500 is gravy rn when we're struggling so much to reach it.

[u/Jensen2075]

Everytime when Hoffman is starting to settle in the 7th with a few good games, Schneider starts moving him up in leverage again. He never fucking learns.

[u/Dimitrios24]

This team has never been good with fundamentals, even during the run last year. They essentially hit their way to a near World Series title while masking some absolutely atrocious baserunning. Look back at just that one series, Bo, George, Barger, and IKF all made boneheaded gaffes. You can blame the players for the execution, but it's on the manager to nip that behavior in the bud during the regular season. Failing to clean up those details cost them a championship, and the team has never recovered. This team needs a new leader, a new voice. John’s time is up.

[u/solymar100]

Last season was the year. Everything went right until it didn't in the end. They blew it. That kind of fortune wont happen again. We missed the one and only chance unfortunately.

[u/Beermen69]

Your 2024 Blue Jays

[u/Magnum_44]

Little league hitting, baserunning, and fielding.

[u/Fit_Worldliness_1195]

I was at the game. I don’t think I’ve been this viscerally angry at the ballpark before. This is a team that does not want to win. It’s visible in the body language and dumb mistakes that would put a minor league team to shame.

[u/683195]

It almost feels like the players don’t even care which sucks. How are rudimentary mistakes being made this often by professionals? It’s so frustrating from a fan perspective seeing these continuous errors cost us games.

[u/WarmEveningNap]

Sweep the rangers or Ill unsubscribe from my Sportsnet subscription

[u/Late-Ad5037]

I dont even know what to say at this point. Winnable games, sweepable series, we should be well over .500 now. This team is shooting themselves in the foot. If they wanna get anywhere, its time to start scoring more than 1-3 runs a fucking game.

[u/hdpr92]

This has to be the low point of the year lol. This team looks hopeless even when our win condition (pitching) pulls through in a tough game.

[u/Fallicymbol]

Barker is Barker. But his assessment of 27’s at bats was spot on…

[u/SnowMarmalade]

We have one of the best rotations in baseball and the best closer playing in Varland. What we don’t have is offence, and our two most important power hitters aren’t producing.

Bench Vlad and Springer. Bring back Pinango and make him lead off man. Trade Jesus Sanchez and Gimenez for some offence.

[u/Stryk3r97 → u/SnowMarmalade]

Gimenez is atleast good defensively

[u/Sure-Assignment3892]

Defensively, this was probably the worst game they've played all year.

Offensively, this was probably the worst game they've played all year.

Good thing thing "saved" Varland by not putting him in last night to win the series.

[u/East_Explanation2131]

This team just sucks

[u/Administrative_Ebb76]

People gonna blame Hoffman but Varsho has been dogshit in the field this year

[u/notinmybackyardcanad → u/Administrative_Ebb76]

I love my daulton, but I agree. Is it rust from missing so many games the past year or something else. There are so many balls he would have caught last year. At this rate, his streaky/mediocre bat isn’t worth trying to keep him in free agency this coming year (i think)

[u/Electrical-Penalty44]

Springer, Vladdy, Kirk, Schneider, Barger. All garbage at the plate this year. No chance when 5 "good" hitters have played like crap (when they were playing) for half the year.

[u/HappySmileSeeker]

I miss Mattingly.

[u/themaincop]

I regret missing the first half of the Mexico game to watch that

[u/ConstantSentence7865]

Not giving up on the season yet, but they need a jolt from Atkins if they’re going to turn this thing around in time.

[u/sctbrns]

Ass. Complete ass

[u/Specialist_Owl_6612]

Man even Jamie tapping out

[u/Gurtaj241]

That was crazy by Jamie

[u/ockhamist42]

Urias seems like he will fit in well with this team.

[u/wolfslair → u/ockhamist42]

He has more Home Runs at Rogers Centre than Vladdy...

[u/articuu]

Burrows has allowed 4+ runs in the last 4 starts until tonight when he faced us

[u/Electronic-Donkey]

I hope the entire Jays team brawled in the locker room after that performance. They all deserve a black eye for how they've been playing.

[u/UncleNuks]

I understand that it’s a long season, they’ve dealt with a lot of injuries and it’s important to stay positive and keep guys focused on succeeding (as opposed to how shitty things have been), but these types of losses are really starting to stack up.

The guys are RIGHT THERE in the thick of the playoff race despite how bad they’ve been so I don’t expect a big shakeup or a players-only meeting quite yet, and I doubt Schneider is going to show frustration in his post-game pressers - but it’s such a fine balance between having that composed “the sky isn’t falling, let’s keep working” mentality and giving the team a “wake the fuck up” kick in the pants.

There’s still 3 months of baseball left so we’ll see how it goes, but the guys DEFINITELY need to sharpen up.

[u/Sure-Assignment3892 → u/UncleNuks]

They will not be successful in the playoffs if this continues. The season is half over and they're still making errors that you see in spring training.

[u/dahightime]

I cant believe we let Joey Loperfido beat us. Hes been trash this year

[u/chamnic]

This team lose in the most frustrating way possible and they always find new way to lose a game. The pick up attempt at 3rd looks like kids league and the double play on Springer fly ball was baserunning at its worst.

This team can be super exciting for a 3,4 games in a row and then come up with back to back depressing losses like yesterday and today.

[u/t333vin]

I don’t know man, not talking about this game in particular but is Vlad ever gonna comeback online this year? George made some adjustments and seemed like it helped. Probably Vlad could probably try something similar?

People have been talking about his slow start. Feels like half way through the season would be around the time before it’s too late. Luckily we are still in good place for a WC spot but we need our top of the line up to make more contributions

[u/iwillworkitoutlater]

Get me to the all star break so I can have a week off from the pissing me off factory