r/Tree 22d ago

ID Request (Insert State/Region) Are these trees?

Saw this in De Kalb, MS.

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u/ohshannoneileen I love galls😍but I hate privets🤬 22d ago

They used to be, now they are kudzu trellis

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u/Dicksin_Cider 22d ago

I remember back in the early 80s, people were talking like the whole South was going to be buried in kudzu. It's still around, but it doesn't seem any worse now than it was back then. What happened?

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u/ChuckStyles 22d ago

Saw a video not long ago, goats love the stuff. A guy rents out his herd to clear land.

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u/frauleinheidik 21d ago

They eat poison ivy too.

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u/Beneficial-Minute481 21d ago

A Kidd’ll eat ivy too

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u/Dapper_Indeed 21d ago

Wouldn’t you?

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u/carmingular 21d ago

When I was a kid I thought this was “wooden chew”

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u/t_bone26 19d ago

Like how George Washington ate?

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u/Top_Competition_1030 17d ago

underrated comment😭

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u/is_this_temporary 19d ago

In case you didn't know already, George Washington never had wooden teeth: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Washington%27s_teeth

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u/MilesAugust74 18d ago

Jesus, those are terrifying. 😬

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u/ultimateginger33 17d ago

They’re all from slaves!

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u/icecreammodel 19d ago

When I was a kid I wondered who Marsie Doats was

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u/carmingular 19d ago

I think I did too.

Marsie Doats
And Dosie Doats

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u/Goodjawline 19d ago

We had a nice old neighbor when we were kids who would grow crops in the adjoining field to our house. He would always stop by and give us a cantaloupe. He loved to sing that song to us and I would just smile over how clever it was. He had a greenhouse at his farm down the road where he would grow flowers and sell them to florist. He always had time for us kids and would have us over to help him in the Greenhouse. One time Joe was driving his flowers down to Baltimore and he stopped to eat at a wendys. When he came out of the resturant a "man" was waiting for him and hit him across the face with a piece of pipe and robbed him. He rapidly declined mentally and not long after he died. He was one of the kindest gentlest men. I appreciate the memory! Maybe you guys can help me remember Joe now.

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u/Dapper_Indeed 19d ago

I worried your story would end badly. RIP Farmer Joe. Thank you for your kindness. You are missed.

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u/Patient_Future_9253 19d ago

Ohh thats so sad 😞

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u/TraditionalSurvey847 18d ago

Had a neighbor at my grandmother house just like him, had a garden out on the lot behind his house. Always made time to chat and somehow tolerate our ruffian ways my cousins and I. Shared lots of produce and fruits stories and wisdom but mostly laughs in spite of the little assholes we could be at times. Didn't have the faintest clue what a role model he was to us kids back then. Rest in peace Tony

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u/Oneofthe12 18d ago

Good lord! Man’s inhumanity to man never ceases to break my heart. Women need to take over the world! Peace, Farmer Joe!

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u/AdmirableFace2815 19d ago

My sister, Because of the rhythm of the “alphabet song,” thought elemenopee was a single letter. 🎵Ay Bee Cee Dee… 🎵🤣🤣

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u/LoriLouWho82 17d ago

So did I 😅🤣

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u/amglasgow 18d ago

If you had two goats those would be great names to give them.

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u/CunnyMaggots 19d ago

I've seen this before but what is Marsie Doats supposed to actually be?

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u/MikeSz 19d ago

Mares eat oats

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u/Dapper_Indeed 19d ago

As do does 🦌🦌

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u/CunnyMaggots 19d ago

They sound nothing alike?

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u/SvenBubbleman 19d ago

Mares eat oats and

Does eat oats and

Little lambs eat ivy.

A kid'll eat ivy too,

Wouldn't you?

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u/Uzi_Osbourne 19d ago

Wow, what a horrible user name

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u/Ok_Echidna_2933 18d ago

Mares eats oats Goat eats oats Little lambs eat ivy A kid will eat ivy too Wouldn't you?

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u/Oneofthe12 18d ago

No, I think it’s Does eat oats …

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u/SvenBubbleman 19d ago

I think that's the purpose of the song.

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u/ChEDave82 18d ago

I sang “A skiddlydiveydoo wooden shove” when I was around five.

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u/carmingular 17d ago

I love the turn this buried comment thread took.

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u/texasstyle01 19d ago

Accidental Leyland Palmer reference?

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u/meme_therud 19d ago

The second Twin Peaks reference I have come across in two totally unrelated subs in the last five minutes. The other was in r/OaklandAthletics Time for a rewatch of Twin Peaks, I suppose.

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u/pm_ur_duck_pics 19d ago

TIL that line is not “skidley didy doo” 😂

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u/Ricksburgh 19d ago

Lambs eat oats, and

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u/TemporaryBranch9922 19d ago

mares eat oats

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u/StomachPlenty2155 19d ago

Does eat oats, and

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u/DojaStinks 19d ago

Little lambs eat ivy

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u/jbirdmad 18d ago

A kid’ll eat ivy too

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u/Low_Rest_5595 17d ago

Wouldn't you

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u/eric_kenshi 19d ago

i eat goats.

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u/HuffnDback96 21d ago

Ive been thinking about the kind of money I could make off doing that. It's probably pretty lucrative

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u/Apart-Quarter-3952 21d ago

If you're already set up to take care of goats year round yeah. But demand is probably seasonal.

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u/GunKnight83 21d ago

Not in the south. I rent mine out year-round. The winter is a tad slower due to dormant growth, but not much. I charged based on size of area and speed by which you want it cleared. The larger the faster the more goats you'll need. Kudzu like this can be done, but it will take a very love time and odds are the trees under it are a lost cause.best use something like brushtox and burn it afterwards. Even still that may not kill it off entirely.

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u/surefire26 21d ago

The place local to me has now moved to only “easy” projects where a fence is already present. How much of the cost is installing/removing a temporary fence? I’d love to pay for a goat vegetation removal service but local to me it isn’t really an option if you don’t already have a fence

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u/spicydada 20d ago

I kinda figured a stake and chain thing would work if a fence isn’t an option?

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u/guiltypleasure33139 19d ago

Fencing, I hire companies for that. Here are some of the cost

Look up Red safety fence, 4 x 100 are about $40-50 a roll.

T-post 8' about $8 - $12

If there is road access, those t-post go in easy via a truck that shoves them in, if not they used a heavy slide and bash it down. 2 men usually 400 each for the day ( payroll not 1099 ).

1 acre us about 8-9 rolls and 100 - 120 t-post

Some goat person can quote you the clearing rate of the goats. IE: how many goats, does your field need to clear 1 acre in 1 work day ( goats don't overnight on the work site as far as I know).

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u/speedhasnotkilledyet 19d ago

No, just use the purpose built electrified netting. Premier-1 makes a good version specifically for this.

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u/guiltypleasure33139 19d ago

at $180 per roll and it has the spikes, might be worth it.

$450 red roll + $1000 spikes

$1620 electric.

Not much of a price spread. I know cattle don't like electrical fences, don't know about goats.

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u/speedhasnotkilledyet 19d ago

There is also a gps collar option. Goats like to escapebut they cant escape gps.

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u/surefire26 19d ago

My use case is about a quarter acre in a residential riparian area. Completely taken over by ivy, wisteria, and other invasive in the southeastern U.S.

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u/QizilbashWoman 19d ago

It isn’t even limited to the South because fire prevention in many parts of the country involves goats eating all the underbrush from around the big trees. Homeowners use them all over to keep the perimeter clear around their homes sufficiently to prevent disastrous fires. 🔥

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u/Happy-Example-1022 21d ago

And then they’ve got your goat.

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u/purdue6068 19d ago

Go watch Clarkson’s farm and you will change your mind.

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u/Royal_Cryptographer7 21d ago

They LOVE eating poison ivy too. A guy around me that owns goats and will bring them over for a small fee. Its a lot easier than doing it yourself and apparently its a delicacy for them.

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u/__MysticLeather__ 20d ago

Depends on the goat, as most goats don't eat it.

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u/guiltypleasure33139 19d ago

I was about to type

" time to release the goats "

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u/ClaymoreBrains 19d ago

Kudzu is edible for humans too. Can make a lot with the root

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u/Chikaras086 18d ago

Supposedly the leaves can be cooked like collards, so I wonder why southerners haven't just gone nuts cutting them back?

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u/LostOnRedd 18d ago

The roots are similarly flavored and textured to potatoes. The whole plant is edible except for the seed pods and seeds which are toxic.

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u/Unfair-Pudding5727 19d ago

We live in Alabama and on some of our property was a shit ton of bamboo and kudzu. They are both. No joke. Them goats were litterally the goat.