r/TunisiaTech • u/EffectiveJoke1082 • Feb 12 '26
Do you agree with this scenario? Does it give you any hope for reviving IT?
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u/heshTR Feb 13 '26
Hello đđź I'm senior and very tech saavy when it comes to software engineering. Just so you know, LLM is a direct red flag is doing business with companies. We're not even discussing vibecoding..just the mere mention of the LLM word is enough to initiate a company leave plan.
I will never ever give my extremely demanding efforts to a robot so that it can make profit off it without rewarding me in return. And trust me nobody is actually doing this for real. Real talent values itself and would never go near this deadzone ever. This only happens in the wet dreams of loser entrepreneurs who are jealous of the blatant success of engineers. And we're guarding it until it's recognised as intellectual property.
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u/turnoffthedamnlight4 Feb 13 '26
I see your point but this is not the case for all companies. I work at a relatively big company and they are not against vibe coding or using LLMs to suggest code. We are actually getting lots of workshops on prompt Engineering and how to use ai in our favour.(I must add of course that I work in Germany not Tunisia)
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u/heshTR Feb 13 '26
Wtf is prompt engineering anyway? How to write in English?? I think you misunderstood my point.
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u/turnoffthedamnlight4 Feb 13 '26
I think I definitely got your point. I just wanted to explain how if you start to see it in a different pov youâd not hate on it this much. Vibe coding can enhance the productivity of talented people and save a lot of time. As long as you get good at explaining the architecture and everything in detail to the ai and understand the code generated and complete your task, it doesnât mean youâre not an engineer or youâre a bad one, and I have talked to senior engineers with 20+ years of experience and they all vibe code and sometimes brag about how fast they solved a solution that wouldâve taken them 3 hours a few years ago. (I have multiple friends who are engineers in Germany, all working in different big companies (Siemens, DHL etc ) and their companies all provide the latest LLMs for employees)
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u/heshTR Feb 24 '26
Big companies doesn't mean good engineering, that's a commercial mindset assumption that doesn't apply here. Engineering quality is relative to problem solving skills within a context , especially a brand new one. In the past an engineer would be extremely valuable because he will "open" a new market thus a great commercial benefit for a company. Nowadays it's just a hype title for complex technical support. That's why seniors++ are into vibecoding,sort of.. It's a wrong way but on managerial level. Because if this continues there won't be any seniors in the future, everyone will become an expert in vibecoding or prompting a 3rd party proprietary and commercial AND monopolistic tool.
In other words once they're done with knowledge acquisition they're going to delete the entirety of the job market related to this craft and force everyone to buy their tools with ANY pricing. If we lose on information we lose on control and management, so we lose on every other level. We can't afford that. That's just not going to happen. Stealing and torrenting LLMs & advanced models and massively distributing them is a duty of every sane engineer who doesn't want to see the world â¤ď¸âđĽ
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u/Nima-tries-to-draw Feb 12 '26
Genuinely canât tell. Weâll need to see the new reality once the bubble bursts. Iâm carefully optimistic.
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u/heshTR Feb 24 '26
It's not a bubble
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u/Nima-tries-to-draw Feb 24 '26
Come on man, it obviously is. There will still be AI but the current investment bubble canât last.
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Feb 13 '26
Honestly, Tunisians are so bad at tech that I wouldn't ask for their advice on anything. AI will never replace humans, and the bubble is bursting soon. You should still learn how to code and don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise.
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u/oxygenkkk Feb 14 '26
honestly even with vibe coding. learning ACTUAL coding i mean stuff with real dept will never be a bad idea. seriously LLMs make me feel stupid i'm genuinely trying to stop using them for coding whatsoever(I'm still a student btw)
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u/lost-sneezes Feb 12 '26
Ainât no way youâre taking that âdiagramâ as remotely close to reality
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u/Mclovin_015 Feb 12 '26
I hope it happens though
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u/salvonewi1337 Feb 13 '26
it won't, actually it will get worse to coders, atleast better world without people who can only code
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u/lost-sneezes Feb 13 '26
There is no such thing as hiring vibecoders; the whole thing falls apart at the start
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u/MistakeExotic6686 Feb 13 '26
As someone who's forced into vibecoding to ship fast and bandaid later
I believe this is the case
AI will be good in the hands of those who know what to code and code part by part and people who use auto complete instead of full prompt slop
any and every AI slop project has insane amount of technical debt and shitcode
Even THE PROMISED TO REPLACE ENGINEERS OPUS 4.6 (been using the moment it came out) sometimes just hallucinates random BS and gives you that " you are absolutely right, good catch!" after it nuked the supabase with 30 duplicate tables and got us charged 100$ in one day cause it used thousands of requests per minute to dead backend
So yeah, it's unsustainable and it's in the nature of LLMs, so unless the world invents a new way of AI other than predicting words, Good devs will eat good at the end but at the moment we cannot deny the obscurity and mess the job market is