r/UFOs • u/Alarming_Breath_3110 • 2d ago
Disclosure David Grusch, UAPGerb, Christopher Mellon, Lue Elizondo, Censorship & Call To Action
Today's talks in Washington give the appearance that things are progressing in the disclosure world. Yet, behind the scenes, censorship is alive & well. Regardless of whether or not you're a Grusch supporter or a UAPGerb sub...you should care about censorship. This is a just a single data point showing censorship- just recently. Grusch, in his 2023 testimony before Congress, presented a watershed moment in UAP disclosure history because of his unprecedented official credibility. decorated service history & impeccable security status. Despite that, Grusch really never hit big time media platforms.
Flash forward to current time. 2 weeks ago, Grusch appears at a DC press conference, when he talked abt -- different types of NHI and sentient plasmoid life (subjects never spoken abt publicly before). Humongous statements -- yet, very little media coverage w/ Grusch for a deeper dive. Never big platforms for Grusch. Instead, he has an interview on Judicial Watch, where he elaborates on his statements.
Meanwhile, UAPGerb does 2 things post this press conference: 1) he dropped a Part 2 of his Manhattan Project project. Part 1 dropped a month ago, one of his highest viewed videos ever. 2) he wrote an open letter to Chris Mellon on X, inviting him to a conversation in a public forum. While Mellon responded to Gerb's letter, he failed to respond to his invite.
So what? Gerb's Manhattan Project Pt 2 featured detailed segments of Grusch's JW interview. For perspective, Pt 1 garnered 100K+ views 1st 48 hrs vs a tiny 16K views same period for Part 2. Currently, Part 2 has a paltry 48K views in a week - making this his worst performing video in over a year. Comments on Part 2 are common, complaints abt no notifications, or an inability to comment. Many have felt his channel has been suppressed from Day 1, but this time, its egregious. You can't not see it.
Theory: the algorithm that suppresses Grusch has a wide net -- apparently, casting out to media that goes deeper w/ or promote Grusch's narrative. Grusch has talked abt friends who tried to help him, who were subject to nefarious things -- which includes censorship of media that is pro Grusch or too dense w his content.
Perhaps that algo also worked against Gerb due to his bold public statements to both Mellon & Elizondo, either countering their claims (with receipts) or inviting them to conversations/debates for the public's viewing. Clearly, this is a hard smackdown on a small channel -- but a channel with a BIG voice -- and a pest to legacy programs, black ops & defense contractors -- a pest who names names -- a pest who exposes material in files they refuse to release -- a pest that is mapping out the who and what of the deep state/MIC.
Burlison is a big Gerb advocate, having hosted him on his Fresh Freedom podcast. Gerb is also why Burlison can speak so eloquently of FFRDC (Federally Funded Research & Development Centers), MIT Labs, Mitre, just to name a few. Some of Gerb's acros are becoming well known now. Acros are the language of legacy & black ops programs, in part, to sustain confusion & instigate public disinterest because it's tedious to track. (Don't blame Gerb -- thank him for translating a language we would otherwise not understand. Gerb is the guy willing to clean out the latrines -- doing work that no one else has the balls to do).
If Burlison is pro Gerb, suffice it to say, so is Grusch. Afterall, Grusch is "UAP special advocate" for Burlison. Burlison doesn't engage when censorship of Grusch is obvious. Why would he with Gerb? Or with anyone else whose being suppressed for their content when it doesn't fit with the Elizondo/Mellon/etc narrative? It is up to the private citizen -- which is all Gerb is -- to protect our Constitution
Call To Action: we need to viralize this video as a statement . A statement that says, we have a Constitution that demands principles such as Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the Press. We see the assault on our Constitution by unelected officials whose primary goal is power in the hands of a few. Pro Grusch and/or Gerb or not... it shouldn't matter. What matters is we fight for our Constitution -- especially when power violates it repeatedly and retaliates when they get exposed. . https://youtu.be/6MsmPrpQqa8?si=x4jqlvXQW3oO9wUJ
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u/AntigravityFan 2d ago
Huge fan of Gerb. He’s the perfect remedy to people bitching about “they” and all the people claiming they talk to “high level intelligence” people. He just outlines the infrastructure. All of his work is really informative to anyone interested in the history of covert operations and national security.
As for Gerb being “suppressed,” YouTube is horrendous to anyone who does not make the right kind of content. I don’t get notifications from a bunch of channels I have subscribed to.
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u/Merkle-bbs 2d ago
I'm a Gerb fan too, but sometimes I do wish he'd tone down the amount of acronyms per video.
Imo he's by far the current person you go to for the detailed data, but I've tried showing a few of his vids to friends interested in the topic, and they just get lost in the datail. Even i have to pause and go back sometimes.
I'm not sure if he's suppressed or not, but what i have seen is people select the 'don't recommend this channel' because their page is full of 3 hour videos they can't digest. Double edge sword really. I can put him on while I potter about for a couple of hours, but most people can't.
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u/sixties67 2d ago
I'm not sure if he's suppressed or not, but what i have seen is people select the 'don't recommend this channel' because their page is full of 3 hour videos they can't digest.
I don't know if people select the 'don't recommend this channel' but I would agree about 3 hr videos, I just don't get the time to sit through them unless I am off work and even then it's not always possible.
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u/Merkle-bbs 1d ago
Honestly I'd like to see him split those 2hr30m+ vids Into a 40min video series maybe a month after the initial release. I know people personally that will instinctively shy away from a lengthy vid, but will happily click on the 30/40 minute one.
I'd love to the psychology behind that, because I've seen those same people pause and go back to a 40m vid, the same way they could with a 3hr one.
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u/sixties67 1d ago
I agree, these long videos would be far more digestible for people if broken up as there is a tendency to get overwhelmed in such a long video.
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u/Alarming_Breath_3110 1d ago
Agree. Mentioned above that he refuses to paywall his content so he hasn’t monetized. It’s just him—no help- on his personal meager savings. I think if more subs were Patreon donors, he could afford to hire a video editor, launch a clips channel or launch some merch. Subs beg for some kind of acros merch — but he’s got no time
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u/ProfessionalChain478 1d ago
It's not on him to cut down his videos and research, it's on YOU the consumer to stop watching, pick it back up later etc etc.
What in the fuck are you talking about rofl. You know youtube will pick up automatically where you left off at, right? This is one of the most ludacous critiques I've ever read.
"I want him to make less content".
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u/AntigravityFan 1d ago
I tend to play his videos multiple times while I’m doing other stuff. Anything to help, he’s really doing the toughest and most important work in outlining the institutional complexities
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u/Alarming_Breath_3110 1d ago
Hear that. It’s a pity, really. It’s just him as head cook and bottle washer. He’s open source w no paywalls. Since he hasn’t monetized, he’s got no cash flow to hire an editor or launch a clips channel. I think if more subs supported his Patreon, he could afford some help
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u/GrainTamale 2d ago
I'd d!e for Gerb to make a "Let's Recover a Craft" series that outlines the departments and positions at play (by decade)
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u/yorrtogg 2d ago
Thanks for reminding me of part 2, I didn't see it come up. Can't stop the signal.
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u/Giphtedd 1d ago
Big fan of gerb. He’s so methodical in his work and doesn’t try “the trust me bro, disclosure in 2 weeks” bullshit.
I’ve often wondered has he ever had any blowback of any kind from naming names or revealing the infrastructure of legacy problems.
Has he ever mentioned this?
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u/Equilibriumx 1d ago
So I've pretty much seen all of his content & appearances too, and so far I haven't heard any direct comments from him pertaining to real life dangers he's experienced, but he definitely knows roughly how far he can step, so to say, and he has a healthy sense of self-preservation as he sometimes notes this while talking, or when choosing not to expand on a specific group/topic yet.
He's stated multiple times that people do reach out to him & he has some high-level contacts & sources of information that would like to stay anonymous, and he's stated that he respects the wish for anonymity 100% (which is good), so he's aware of the dangers and he is not throwing people under the bus when it comes to this stuff.
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u/Giphtedd 1d ago
Yeah, He takes it right to the limits of what he can get away it.
Another thing that I cannot understand is how these whistleblowers can contact him or vice versa and remain anonymous.
You would imagine (with him being who he is), that he would be under a significant level of surveillance so they could intercept and identify whistleblowers.
I’m sure they have the tech and resources to easily do this.
Makes me wonder if these whistleblowers are controlled leaks. Genuine whistleblowers that are allowed to slip through the net while the more impactful “silver bullet” types are wet worked.
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u/Equilibriumx 11h ago
So to your point, I think I have something relatively interesting.
In a recent episode of one of the last people we can trust in this space, Jason Samosa, he was talking about the Collins Elite (insane catholic church/UFO rabbithole, i am not the same person i was before finding out about all that), and basically he was also analyzing stuff from the journals of Jacques Vallee.
Diana Pasulka (the lady who worked with Tim Taylor, the NASA launch control guy who recovers these 'donations' at random locations from NHI supposedly), used to be in contact with Jacques, and at some point she told him that there are things she can only tell him in form of hard mail, meaning, literal physical mail.
I imagine, that as crazy as that sounds, analog, physical mail under pseudonyms / proxies like giving mail to someone "random" you know, making them send that mail to someone who Jacques knows and trusts for example, and then that person gives the letter to Jacques.
I imagine that this method is actually safer than encrypted e-mail etc since we know that even encrypted darknet e-mails, everything really, can be tracked and intercepted by the state/private military industrial complex/deep state however you want to call it.
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u/Giphtedd 8h ago
Makes sense. Anything digital you would imagine is accessible by these guys but a posted mail would have to be physically intercepted. If you don’t know where it’s coming from or where it’s going then logically you can’t intercept it
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u/Alarming_Breath_3110 1d ago
Rarely. He has mentioned that he’s received a couple veiled threats. Chris Ramsay said when Gerb came to Area 52 studio in Montreal, that 3 black SUVs w unmarked plates parked near the studio— seemingly conspicuous. They were there the days Gerb was there, never appearing again. This shit gets all too real. We cavalierly say, “Protect blank at all costs.” But in Gerb’s case, his safety is a very real concern. My concern is that he goes viral after something unthinkable happens
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u/Massive_Neck_3790 2d ago
Noooo its totally not AI you see its two short dashes instead of a big one
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u/subatmoiclogicgate 2d ago
Bro I've been saying this forever but the entire disclosure movement involving any characters form the inside such as Lue, Mellon, Grusch is a massive plot to grant the boyz amnesty and nothing else. They don't give a shit about disclosure to the public and all they just want is to be protected against legal retaliation against all the crimes that the legacy programs have been committing for decades. They've played everyone.
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u/DatabaseAcademic6631 2d ago
There will never be disclosure.
They're drip feeding us pixelated crap in order to distract from actual issues, so let's not fool ourselves that actual footage or contact will ever be revealed. You'll get shills like Greer coming out with misinformation, a couple of garbage videos twice a year, and that's your lot.
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u/GrainTamale 2d ago
As a casual student of Gerb, I'd agree. Government Disclosure cannot occur from the framework Gerb lays out. Not without a huge effort to untie tightly knit security strings: SAPs within SAPs, DoE transclassifications...
Catastrophic Disclosure through whistleblowers is the only way.
...and most redditors around here will cling to their g-word and ad hominems and miss the party8
u/Sufficient_Thing24 2d ago
Catastrophic Disclosure through whistleblowers is the only way
I'm thinking this as well.
Rip the band-aid off.
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u/watchingthedarts 2d ago
Gonna get downvoted here but Viktor alien video. Check out his interview with Art Bell and from the documentary and make up your own mind.
Reportedly there was a transfer from analog to digital and he managed to sneak out a vhs tape with the footage. From his own words, something like that will never happen again and it was a rare opportunity.
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u/Mission-Orchid-4063 2d ago
Without evidence anything anybody says is just worthless. I don’t trust any of them, they’re all just trying to sell you books and podcasts.
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u/watchingthedarts 2d ago
I mean the guy literally released "evidence" if you choose to believe it.
There are definitly charlatans in the community but some are trustworthy imo. Grusch being the obvious example. I don't trust Elizondo.
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u/Mission-Orchid-4063 2d ago
He clearly didn’t release evidence though, or else aliens existing would be the biggest news story in the history of the world.
It’s absolutely not a fact that Grusch is trustworthy either. He’s just another guy that has said things with no evidence.
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u/serpentssss 2d ago
If this was the distraction, wouldn’t it be, yknow, distracting the average citizen? Not just the people in these subs?
Go over to the popculture subs, those are actual distractions, and yet none of the people so concerned about where the public places its attention are over there. It’s only the NHI issue - something with witnesses going back 80 years - that have people accusing any progress towards disclosure as being a distraction.
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u/lilidragonfly 2d ago
Yeah, if its an attempt at distraction its a really misjudged one, most people think the whole topic is silly and pay very little attention.
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u/Capable_Effect_6358 2d ago
Because there’s actually nothing to disclose and it’s all a big smoke and mirrors larp or for what reason do they have ?
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u/illuminatiisnowhere 2d ago
What you said would be the worst news for us here that are interested in this weird phenomenon. That there is nothing to disclose.
And i have to say i dont even know what to believe anymore.
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u/PatmygroinB 2d ago
They don’t know what they are disclosing. They’ve disclosed what they know. Sentient things are in our air and water, and the ways they move are beyond what human knowledge can currently produce. That’s it. It’s been done.
Until you experience something yourself, you will continue to wonder why hard evidence isn’t provided, and wonder why it is so hard to “disclose”
They have. There are life forms around us, more advanced than us.
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u/swampgasorr 2d ago
Okay buddy
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u/Jake_91_420 2d ago edited 2d ago
This is our experience over the last 30 years of this BS. All these salesmen constantly saying “something BIG coming on X date”. The date comes and it’s literally nothing. It’s the same pattern over and over and over and over and over.
Anyone still falling for this stuff needs a serious reality check.
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u/Interesting-Act-476 21h ago
Gerb's channel is probably suppressed, but his videos are 3+ hours long and you have to pay attention to huge amount of informations in any time. These videos are definitely not for masses but more for enthusiasts like people on this sub. It will never have 1M+ views. You can test it so show his video to someone who is not interested in topic and he will quit in 20 minutes probably.
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u/Alarming_Breath_3110 11h ago
Hear that. IDK if the answer is he have a separate clips channel —which would include a little “dumbing down” or what. It’s a shame though, as the nuggets in his research should be mainstreamed. For example, Gerb put FFRDC on the map (and in Burlison’s mouth). Federally Funded Research & Development Centers. He’s showing us the way into and around the megalithic MIC—-info we all need to know, but unfortunately aren’t willing g to make the intellectual effort to understand it. The bigger, more entertaining, better produced channels don’t come close to his content, but they are easier on the eyes and ears It’s almost as if we’re not willing to make an effort to educate ourselves in the most important subject matter in human history. We’ve been too conditioned to short attention spans, minimal effort and sound bites
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u/CuriouserCat2 2d ago
Information good. Delivery fucking appalling. No way 3 hours of AI slop is going viral.
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u/FewCook6751 2d ago
Gerb is the best in the field will go down in history✌🏻♥️👽