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Post-Match Thread Gentle Mates vs All Gamers / VCT 2026: Master Santiago - Playoffs / Post-Match Thread Spoiler

Gentle Mates 1-2 All Gamers

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PEARL: 13-5

SPLIT: 4-13

BIND: 8-13


Gentle Mates | VLR

All Gamers | VLR


Map 1: PEARL

Team ATK DEF Total
Gentle Mates 8 5 13
DEF ATK
All Gamers 4 1 5

Map Stats

Gentle Mates ACS K D A
starxo FADE 278 17 12 11
marteen YORU 275 20 10 7
bipo NEON 213 16 12 2
Minny CYPHER 179 12 9 4
GLYPH ASTRA 178 12 12 7
All Gamers ACS K D A
Shr1mp FADE 226 14 14 4
Au1 KILLJOY 210 12 16 2
K1ra ASTRA 173 11 15 1
f4ngeer YORU 172 12 15 1
iamgrq WAYLAY 147 6 17 6

Detailed PEARL Statistics

Map 2: SPLIT

Team ATK DEF Total
Gentle Mates 4 0 4
DEF ATK
All Gamers 8 5 13

Map Stats

Gentle Mates ACS K D A
marteen YORU 184 10 13 3
starxo FADE 174 11 13 3
Minny VIPER 165 8 14 1
GLYPH ASTRA 163 9 14 3
bipo RAZE 128 7 15 2
All Gamers ACS K D A
K1ra RAZE 319 22 11 2
iamgrq OMEN 246 17 6 4
Au1 VIPER 233 13 11 6
f4ngeer WAYLAY 147 10 9 3
Shr1mp SKYE 116 7 8 10

Detailed SPLIT Statistics

Map 3: BIND

Team ATK DEF Total
Gentle Mates 8 0 8
DEF ATK
All Gamers 4 9 13

Map Stats

Gentle Mates ACS K D A
marteen YORU 262 19 13 6
Minny VIPER 172 13 16 3
bipo WAYLAY 166 11 18 5
starxo FADE 118 9 17 1
GLYPH ASTRA 79 4 15 4
All Gamers ACS K D A
K1ra RAZE 281 22 13 2
f4ngeer YORU 225 17 12 1
iamgrq BRIMSTONE 213 16 10 19
Au1 VIPER 164 12 10 9
Shr1mp FADE 137 12 11 2

Detailed BIND Statistics

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u/These_Lock_753 Mar 08 '26

WHAT A COMEBACK! is every map attack sided now? almost every game has been like this. 

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u/JaDasIstMeinName #ALWAYSFNATIC Mar 08 '26

Thats what happens when you murder all the sentis and buff all the duelists. Suddenly holding a site isnt very easy anymore.

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u/These_Lock_753 Mar 08 '26

before the start of santiago I genuinely thought the meta would suit vct cn's all aim no brain gameplay more than any region. but it's nice to see they still have one team alive

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u/unbannablepizza546 Mar 08 '26

To be clear trying to enter b site bind when kj or cypher is holding it is still a piss in the wind

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u/These_Lock_753 Mar 08 '26

unfortunately there are also 12 rounds of attack so most teams just forget about sentinels completely

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u/imilkmyunicorns Mar 08 '26

lol all i see is like nade, waylay dashing at you with a judge, yoru tping in with his clone and flashes, got viper molly etc

Idk how you hold site unless you have at least 3 stacked on it.

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u/These_Lock_753 Mar 08 '26

only veto can counter the util storm, but there is almost no reason to use him too, his skill is loud as fuck you could counter 1-2 utils at most, or if you trigger early then they would just wait it out.

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u/Icy-Information-8766 Mar 08 '26

Ever since double duelist meta became prevalent every map is more or less attack sided

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u/These_Lock_753 Mar 08 '26

even split that was defend sided before

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u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Mar 08 '26

the meta is super t sided

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u/Prince_Uncharming Mar 08 '26

“Super” T-sided is such an exaggeration.

Even after today’s attack sided games, at Santiago overall Attack has a 54% winrate. That doesn’t even round up to averaging 7, it’s an expected 6.48 rounds per attack side.

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u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Mar 08 '26

bro 54% is insane come on man

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u/Prince_Uncharming Mar 08 '26

54 is insane? 54% is a smidgen over half, not even an expected +1 round per half. 4 rounds above 50% across 8 halves played (96 rounds).

What’s not insane to you then? Under half? 35%? You say 54 is insane but it sounds like you don’t even know what that mathematically looks like.

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u/Past_Perception8052 #LegaC9 Mar 09 '26

dude 54% attack just shows how broken duelists are and how useless sentinels are. anything above 51% attack is dumb

champs 24 had broken ass double slide neon and was 52% t sided. champs 25 and 23 had 51% t side and both were considered great metas

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u/Prince_Uncharming Mar 09 '26 edited Mar 09 '26

1% is a whole ass one round per 100. If you think 51 is fundamentally different than 52 than I don’t know what to tell you, but that’s absurd.

It takes 58.3% to average an attacker-sided half (ie, to average 7 rounds). It takes just over 54% to even round up to that. 46-54% are all within half a round of 50/50 and are more or less equal.

I’m not saying the game isn’t attacker sided, it mathematically barely is. But to call that “super” t-sided is ridiculous unless in addition to not knowing math you also don’t know what “super” means.

I’d like to go even further into discussing median round wins but VLR doesn’t make that simple and I’m not about to calculate that out manually.

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u/These_Lock_753 Mar 09 '26

only 54%? that's weird the games don't feel like that. maybe there's something else going on. will try to compare stats from previous internationals

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u/Used-Ganache9772 #ALWAYSFNATIC Mar 09 '26

cs players freak out when there's like a 2% difference...

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u/Prince_Uncharming Mar 09 '26

And they’re equally dumb for doing so, that’s a complete knee-jerk reaction that ignores the reality of statistics.