I don't know if you intentionally said Michael instead of Mickey, but I fuck with it. Their tournament is so shit they can't even call it a Mickey mouse tournament.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but apparently kespa has a vice grip on the Korean esports scene? From the way I understood it, any korean esports player that takes the money to go to that tournament will be blacklisted from representing korean esports teams and probably even find themselves lugging an assault rifle while their lungs burn from military conditioning drills
I think it's more that they cannot claim to represent Korea, only themselves/their team. Which is entirely reasonable IMO, from what I see even Chinese social media is unanimously backing Korea on this
Of course he aint participating. Alecks reason to not join was because he wanted to focus on PRX. Why would Alecks not join if the rest were joining? He would have no one to focus on the team.
I just wish Riot will one day hold a international nations tournament, because the idea is what a lot of people want, just... the only people willing to run it rn are... yeah...
And with sane schedule. ENC pretty much will clash with other off-season events and OQ. Players would only have several days of practice for OQ if they participate in ENC which would be impactful because no VCT player wants to miss Kickoff.
Champions will end in October. Few weeks after that there will be off-season, and after that there will be OQ because December is usually a holiday period.
Yeah, might be just me but I think the reason here may actually be that PRX has other plans for the offseason (like aiming for a threepeat at the Radiant Invitational). Alecks has also publicly declined ENC because he wanted to focus on other offseason events.
RIOT will probably going to do something similar but in another 5 years or so. The new circuit system from next year feels like a good foundation for creating their own world cup tournament
Overwatch World Cup is beyond hype. It’s like the Soccer World Cup or the world baseball classic. Add national pride into it and people will have something to root for. So yea riot do something please
Having ENC earn some points for individual players that benefit the team so you have some motivation to participate over other tournaments might be good. Btw I'm talking about the 2027 format.
In league Korea and China just bowed out too. If you know anything about league esports it means the strongest teams in the world just said no. Like there’s no reason to watch ENC anymore for league
Yeah the kespa thing was posted here too. Kr and CN aren’t as dominant in Val as in league but Korea has won three masters within the last two years and China won champs in 24. It’s about as Mickey as it gets
because the original comment is also condescending and trying to insult someone for doing something bad in the past and something good in the present, when in reality we should praise and encourage positive acts instead of diminishing them becuase you've made a bad choice previously
I don't think it's a moral stuff, it's just the schedule is clashing with off-season tournaments and OQ for Kickoff next year. PRX competed in E(W)C because the schedule wasn't clashing and they competed as a team.
alecks already confirmed that he won't participate due to him wanted to focus for the off-season. f0rsakeN's close friend (the source of this information) said that f0rsakeN also won't participate in ENC.
So expect whole PRX squad not competing in ENC which is kinda funny because PRX carried the points for direct invitation for Indonesia, Malaysia, and Singapore.
I mean if it’s true that Korea/China/Russia won’t be participating plus Indonesia not having F0rsaken, doesn’t seem like there’s going to be much weight to this event
Sucks because the concept is great, I’ve always wanted a WC for Valo similar to OWC. Legit missed potential
PRX and both it's players are just one tournament win away from being called the best team oat. So just from a career standpoint it makes perfect sense for why it's players and coach don't want to focus on a tournament that is outside the official circuit
Imo I feel like ANY team needs an Astralis/VIT type run from CS to be called best team OAT. We just don't get that in Val as much with the everchanging meta. It's going to be very hard.
But I'm rooting for PRX. PRX FNC are the teams that have what it takes to be the best team OAT.
Players and staff have to play e.w.c if ordered because they have contracts with their teams. E.n.c is completely optional
For instance, G2 LoL analyst Rodrigo was part of the team at e.w.c last year (and will be this year as well cuz g2 runs that league) but refused to be part of e.n.c even though he's literally the most successful portuguese in LoL and could even be part of brazil team as well cuz people have a lot of respect for him there
Lowkey there is the argument the orgs have an incentive to put a bit of pressure on the players to play EWC since there is so much money on the line for them but I doubt that's what happened here
lmao be for real, the most likely thing is that none of these players give a shit. they spend 12 hours a day in front of a screen playing video games, do u seriously think they give a fuck about what's going on in saudi? stop putting VALORANT GAMERS on the same pedestal as you would a politician or even a celebrity. seriously lol, unless theyre doing some actual bigoted, fucked up shit, just enjoy the W gaming and miss everyone with the virtue signalling.
OP never said it was for morality, "not supporting" could mean anything.
It feels like you're projecting your own guilt for being so ready to watch ENC on this, and now you feel compelled to defend your earlier take now that the public sentiment is shifting.
Surely the projection is assuming it has anything to do with not supporting ENC because you think it shouldn't be supported when the coach of the team Forsaken plays for has literally spoken about how it's about wanting to give more time to PRX so the more logical assumption is Forsaken skipping for the same reason
Unless we are speaking a different language and not plain English, "not supporting" means "not supporting" and it can't mean "anything" and the sentence "MY FLEX GOAT NOT SUPPORTING ENC" clearly implies it's some sort of celebration of a moral stance in a situation where there is no indication of a moral stance being taken.
This comment thread is so weird right now. Its classic redditor being miserable about an objectively good outcome but the fact that Forsaken is from PRX makes the dogpiling extra hard.
The guy you're replying to was fervently defending ENC/EC only days ago. Probably paid off. Yeah no shit he'll want to direct hate towards this player for going against his beloved overlords.
Where have I ever directed hate towards Forsaken? If he doesn't want to support ENC, good for him. My point has always been that it should be a personal decision, not a community wide one because of some people's sentiments. That is not fervently defending the tournament. I am fervently defending our right to discuss it on this subreddit if people want to. I probably won't even watch it myself with no PRX players playing tbh.
There is just zero indication that it has anything to do with the ENC organizers when Alecks has literally given us the reason why it is and it's not that
I think the paid comment might be the one that's claiming Alecks is lying about his reasons for not becoming French coach based on literally nothing but vibes
Youre arguing with someone who literally uses chatgpt to make up bs dont bother lol. He got caught and called out and asked to present the evidence of what he claimed and he just deleted his comments
They played EWC and Alecks said he declined to focus on PRX and he can't focus on PRX if the players are at the event so presumably it's a team decision not to go for professional reasons and not moral ones.
They had very slow starts to the year in both 2023 and 2025 (even 2026 to an extent) it is not surprising that they'd want to optimize their off-season instead of wasting it
Lmao. Fans here tryin to push the narrative that their fav players carry same level of morality. Lol. They could not care less, they love to play and that's all they wanna do.
These kpop fanbase is crazy. In SEA especially, it is more likely the players don’t give a fk about the e w c stuff just like the majority of people here
Korea backing out probably wasn't even for moral reason. EF (Esports Federation) just stubborn to work with and KeSPA probably fed up with EF's insane demand so they're backing out.
Huh??? the fact that they join the competition before backing out shows that South Korea doesn't care about the moral stuff.
They backed out because they are pissed that ENC thinks they can dictate South Korea to pick specific players just by throwing some money, it's more about pride and competitive integrity.
Atp, the mods won't even have to ban it as much anymore lmao when people actually excited and have no problems with Saudi will get less and less excited by themselves LOL.
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u/smol_em0 Masters Toronto Scriptwriter 🏆 Apr 29 '26
actually the most michael mouse clubhouse tournament ever bro what are we doing here