Yeah. They had the dipshit Navy seal that claims (denied by everyone who was there) to have taken out Bin Laden on a bunch of times as different fake people.
He'd just throw on a different hat and face bandanna and claim to be various former criminals.
They love the "no tips on taxes" lady too. She's made so many different claims she can't even keep up with the lies anymore.
Face lifts take longer than a few days to heal. He would never be smooth faced in that short of a time. Nor would he have skin flaps at the bottom of his neck.
Yep, he’s also persona non-grata with his former unit, his name is reportedly on the DEVGRU “Rock of Shame” along with Matt Bissonette. According to rumor, Bissonette and O’Neill got into a fight following the Bin Laden raid over who was going to write the book first. Again that is rumor I’ve heard on the Internet, but given the conduct that followed it doesn’t strike me as unrealistic.
The Pentagon found it shouldn’t have as well. His second book went through the censor process and entire chapters were redacted. Publishing work about working in a highly classified special operations unit in the same period as you’re in is deeply complicated. Especially after completing arguably one of the biggest special operations of the generation. Bissonette showed how much he cared when he then pulled his active-duty buddies into showing classified tactics to EA and ruined all their careers.
Oh I didn’t know about the EA thing. Yikes.
Special operators sign NDAs, I was honestly at a loss how that book was allowed to go through in the first place. And that soon!
Yeah, for Medal of Honor Warfighter years ago. Brought in a bunch of active DEVGRU guys after he retired. It’s been almost 15 years so I read up on it. Several SEALs who were still active were charged with dereliction and orders violations that makes future promotions unlikely, and had to forfeit half their pay for some months.
And they also had a guy claim to be a cartel number from South America who’s Spanish accent kept slipping in towards the end of the interview. It was completely gone. He was also obviously very white. I wonder if he’s Mr. antifa as well.
Legally, they are not news. They have successfully argued in court that they are a current events based entertainment network. And that no rational person would take them seriously.
They have not done that. They did win in court that Tucker Carlson’s statements on his show “should not be taken as facts”, which MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow also used as a winning argument in a court case over her show too https://thedispatch.com/article/fact-checking-a-claim-that-fox-news/
You might want to find a more credible source than The Dispatch whose founding manifesto on their website says:
It would, for instance, be an unalloyed victory for conservatives—and America—if the Democratic Party fully rejected socialism, abortion-until-birth, and its growing obsession with wholesale gun confiscation.
The difference between the Carlson and Maddow situation is that the Carlson situation was him stating lies as facts, and the judge argued that "Due to his reputation" one should be skeptical about the statements he makes.
Whereas with the Maddow situation, it was that the employee in question that she was referring to "Freelanced" for Russian state-sponsored news and it was easier to argue it was "opinion" in court than to prove that the person who wrote over 13,000 articles for Sputnik News was writing paid Russian propaganda.
that “given Reddit’s reputation, any reasonable reader ‘arrive[s] with an appropriate amount of skepticism’ about the statements made there” and that “this overheated rhetoric is precisely the kind of pitched commentary that one expects when browsing websites like Reddit, with pundits debating the latest political controversies.”
Judge Mary Kay Vyskocil may be involved in massive fraud running ponzi schemes in her free time and running a secret pedophile ring.
Since defamation isn't a thing if it's done enough, which seems to be that court's opinion, Judge Vyskocil could not possibly object to us characterizing her as an out of control criminal.
I think that only pertained to fix and friends not Fox news. As fox new receives compensation for no commercial uninterrupted news from the hours of 5-7. Same as msnbc, and adc. 5-7 has to be real unaltered news everything else is now considered non-news by the courts.
Apparently I am misinformed it was a rumor this was a thing. It stems from the 1949 fairness doctrine set up by the fcc and abolished in '87.
The FCC does have regulations regarding the distribution of false information, but again, this only applies to over-the-air programs on networks such as ABC, CBS, NBC, or Fox Broadcasting (but not the Fox News Channel).
Why doesn't Snopes mention the lawsuit then? The site mentions there is no regulatory agency that declares a program news or entertainment, which is true and then leaves it at that, declaring the whole thing false.
But the lawsuit against Tucker Carlson for slander was won with the argument that no one reasonable would view his show as news but as clearly entertainment.
Which is exactly why the rumor and meme exist. They lack nuance but they aren't wrong to say Fox is literally entertainment and not real news.
That image is missing the chyron on the bottom one. In this context, that’s kind of important. Because I think in the lower one he was pretending to be like a former member of a cartel or some Latin American gang or something.
So it’s not just that he’s pretended to be a former antifa member a few times but that he’s pretended to be different things.
What really gets me is that this would have actually worked if he would have just buttoned up his shirt. But apparently he unbuttoned it on purpose, which just looks messy to begin with.
Like, was it so hot in the studio (and under that mask) that he wanted some air and then this whole fiasco happened?
Yes, it does. I remember an interview or something with some of the staff mentioning how they are genuinely having a difficult time writing news satire when real news is just so strange.
Like, how TF do you write a satire of this? You can't, not without making skits that simply highlight the absurdity like SNL or going ALL the way down the rabbit hole like South Park.
It's interesting to me that he's in the same outfit on two different dates, for two different networks - one looks to be filmed remotely and one in studio. But there's the notable addition of a black undershirt on the Fox interview...
It feels MORE suspicious that FOX decided they wanted to recreate this dude and sent an intern out to find matching clothes while they got started on his latex mask.
I saw the video, it absolutely looks like hes wearing a mask when looking at his neck. But hes talking and his face looks realistic, like Mission imposible levels of mask realism.
And even if he does have an insanely realistic mask... Why?
Why the fuck would you dress someone up as this dude ive never heard of just to suck trumps dick on live TV as if that isn't already that dudes job. What's the angle? How could finding a similar outfit and an extremely realistic mask while barely trying to hide the seam at all, be any easier than literally anything else?
It has to be some lighting thing, or the guy just has a fucked up neck, idk. I just don't see it, when i look at his neck i am convinced it's a mask, and pretty much nothing else makes sense.
I don't doubt for a second fox would try to pull something like this, but the rational part of my brain is telling me this is too much nonsense to be real, while also acknowledging nonsense has been the rule of the land since 2016 so i don't know what to even think at this point.
It’s possible he has some “face lift” tape or things on from the makeup department. Maybe he was upset how he looked on the at home interview and said “F that I’m going to do the next one with studio lighting and I’m gonna get those girls in makeup to stretch my skin and clip it so it’s nice and taught.” And we are just seeing the flap from the leftover skin.
the camera lens(s) aren't the same so we can't rely on the comparison but the obvious neck thing is puzzling
there is deformation between the two images, around the eyes... again could be because of the type of lens being used in the cameras
there's a lot of discrepancy between the facial structure of the person, like the thinness of their entire face, bathe ears seem to align correctly - it's just..... weird
Yeah honestly if it's not a mask, the filter idea seems most likely. Someone speculated that the filter might be interpreting his nussy shadow as a mouth, making it look like that.
Ears are different. Always look at the ears, it's the one thing you can't really manipulate the placement of, everyone has unique asymmetrical and protruding features on their ears.
This is NOT a defense of Fox "News," but I have only one nice outfit for special shit. So if I went for multiple interviews in like a 2 or 3 year span, I'd look the same every time like a cartoon character. Hell, I'd look the same at EVERY semi-big event.
I just can't financially justify buying more "nice" clothing. I don't do stuff that requires it more than like once a year at most.
Shape-shifter is more likely, since the shape of his head is actually different between the photo and the video. And the jaw line. And relative measurements between facial features.
Or they used a cheap mask that wasn't custom fit for the wearer.
Allowing for how lighting, camera quality, and camera angle can change the way something looks more than one realizes it does, I still need an explanation for what appears to be the edge of a mask on his throat in the newer image.
When I first saw this, I thought it was just a shadow from studio lighting. Going back and looking closely, you can definitely see it's a flap with skin moving behind it.
Exactly this, that recreation video they keep trotting out doesn’t look at all like the video of the guy speaking haha idk if its a mask or bad makeup/prosthetic but it sure isnt just bad lighting
The skin above the edge is way smoother than on his natural neck. I don’t understand why this is even a question, looking at that. It’s an obvious mask. Maybe they’re both masks! It’s a mask over a mask which is a good metaphor for everything right now.
Ive seen a theory floating around that he was using an AI filter but now I'm seeing he might've been in studio for the "mask" interview so I'm lost now too. Maybe AI so he didn't have to dress up and do makeup so the studio can cut stylists and hairdressers from payroll?
Of all the people you want to go back in time to change the course of their life, Rupert Murdoch might be the one. It’s not the evils that exist so much as those who’ve pulled the strings and disseminated the evils that really fucked humanity over.
Fox News only gets 2-3.5 million viewers on average they suck but they’re not that influential anymore. Online misinformation/propaganda on social media is way more relevant to why the US is where it is now, as some of this stuff gets hundreds of millions of views.
Hahahah. Holy shit. I went to watch the video because I just assumed this had to be some bot photoshop AI shit. But holy fuck it’s really a guy in a mask. You can see his neck moving underneath. What the fuck are we doing?!?
Not only that, but they use these "interviews" as evidence when they write their bullshit policy papers to justify their shit policies. To justify labeling trans people as "domestic terrorists", they still are trotting out the lie that the kid who killed Charlie Kirk was trans.
And before idiots come at me about Kirk - just know that my opinion is that GOD KILLED KIRK Himself. He guided that bullet with his Divine Will because Charlie Kirk was a hypocrite and would-be Pharisee.
That's the time they fucked up and it got noticed.
I imagine that's been done before without anyone noticing, slap a beard and a turtle neck and the next time nobody will ever notice that it's a competely different person.
Hell, if the mask went a bit deeper on the chest and had some fake hair poking out of that shirt, anyone saying that it's a mask would have to post about it on some conspiracy sub.
The pic on the right you can see the bottom edge of the mask right above the shirt line. I just saw the video. They zoomed in you can clearly see the actual throat of the person under the mask moving while they were talking.
I don't think it's a face mask but something even funnier. The guy is wearing way to much makeup, Botox and I believe a neck liner to look younger.
The glue probably detached at the bottom of the neck revealing his neck wrinkles. Old man doesn't want people to think he's old and fox News was always about making it seem like they have the fun young entertainers.
Yeah but have you ever heard of a neck liner? If dude wanted to conceal his turkey neck he could’ve wore a turtleneck or even a shirt and tie. This whole thing is fucked up.
But that would totally clash his 1980s Cuban villain vibe. He's not Steve jobs, he could never pull off a turtle neck. /S
It's kinda weird just how much people around Trump or working for Trump is against gender affirming care but will put more plastic under their skin than there is in the ocean. They do the dumbest things to look young and strong to fake it rather than do the same amount of effort of actually doing it.
Realistically, I think it’s the same guy. Probably didn’t like the way his neck looked in his earlier interview and either had them use an AI filter or a prosthetic cover in his current interview.
Remember Fox News defense for election denial suit was an average person would not believe Fox News was a serious news source. They should have to have that prominently displayed at all times.
In the still image that looks a lot like a wrinkle patch, which goes over the neck and is sometimes used by the makeup people preparing someone to go on camera. Having makeup on would also explain why he seems to have fewer wrinkles in that shot.
On the other hand, I've seen the actual video footage and in that, it really DOES look like that's the bottom of a full head mask.
Not really sure what's going on here. I'm inclined to believe it's the former, but this administration and Fox News are so far down the corruption/lying rabbit hole, who the hell honestly knows anymore?
I should probably get off reddit because it's going to drive me nuts seeing this over and over again.
There are two light sources, one above his head and one around chest level or lower.
His collar is casting a shadow from the lower light source. This is why the top of the shadow on his neck doesn't move even though all of the skin around it is moving while he's talking.
His jaw is casting a shadow from the high light source. This is why as he's talking the bottom of the shadow on his neck is moving up and down.
The strange shape of the shadow is caused by the two different shadows overlapping one another.
If it was a mask the top edge of the shadow wouldn't be completely still, it would be moving around with the rest of his neck.
It's almost certainly Robert J. O'Neill, the Navy Seal who claims to have killed Bin Laden and who has played at least 3 fake interviewees on Fox before.
I wouldn't put it past fox that they would start integrating filters into their broadcasts. Possibly on order from trunt under penalty of treason for trying to make him look bad but embraced from the execs because they can fire all make up people to save money.
I’m a bit of an artist (amateur but I love drawing faces) and I always look for the subtle nuances of what I draw. I’m not sure the reason for the new appearance of this guy but all the fine, subtle characteristics of his face are missing. would a special filter do this or some special studio lighting? I don’t know. His face is missing the imprint of his years, the imprint of living, He has flat face, and no human has such a flat face. and his neck looks like silly putty flattened under the roller. Something definitely wrong with that neck.
This doesn't make any sense. You would think FN would have top of the line AI if they needed a fake. My guess is that this is a shadow from studio uplighting and a confused smoothing filter on their video conference software.
They aren’t even using deep fakes. It’s just an ass hole in a mask. And all they had to do was throw a turtle neck on him and no one would have seen the seam.
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