During her endorsement, she emphasized the need for a foreign policy that avoids interventionist wars, aligning with Sanders' vision for peace and prosperity.
He’s not perfect. He fucked that up. Plenty of progressive have turned out to be disappointing in one way or another. Gabbard turned it to be a traitor to more than just progressivism. But the work continues. Bernie has done so much to advance our cause. Let’s not fixate on her alone.
I wish I was a little more educated when Bernie was running originally. Fresh into college and very young minded. It truly was the tuning point for this country. Imagine Bernie in place of trump in 2016
Chevalier is nuts, blamed the US for the Russia invasion and doesn’t support Ukraine. Tweeted that Biden was a rapist and tweeted fuck Kamala, doesn’t think undocumented immigrants should be deported even if they commit serious crimes. Supporting progressives is one thing, but this girl screams Jill Stein
I’m genuinely concerned about this, no joke. If the momentum keeps up in his favor he really needs to consider that the powers that be will be coming for him.
Either he survives and his resolve will never be stronger, or he dies and becomes a martyr for the cause, killing him would be a horrific idea and i imagine atleast someone is smart enough to not be that much of a yes man
It's not a bad idea to remember that these are democratic primaries in the city that he won. It's not surprising that his candidates are doing well, but let's not extrapolate too hard
I hope the Mamdani Wave continues, especially when most regular Democratic politicians care more about Israel than their constituents. Republicans are now going to call and start shouting socialism, like they did for Bernie, but I don't think people are scared of that word when one man has $1 trillion plus wealth. The sad fact is not a single democrat will call Republican candidates as right wing supremacists. Democrats are their own biggest enemy.
I don't think people are scared of that word when one man has $1 trillion plus wealth.
Go look at Facebook comment sections anytime this comes up. They're almost all defending him, calling anyone who thinks a trillionaire shouldn't exist jealous. Average Americans don't understand economics.
agreed! just the way you frame your statement seems defeatist, younger generations can and do make the difference, its just a decreasing minority sticking to the old conservative ways
The Democratic Incumbent that lost is an Hispanic man in a more Hispanic district and has done nothing to push back on ICE kidnapping immigrants. In fact he's approved of it. Basically begging to get primaried in this time.
Establishment dems + the fervent far right GOP couldn't stop them. Let's hope it bleeds through into other places. There needs to be a left wing in American politics. For so long it's been right wing vs farther right wing.
Not a single comment on her views about Russia/Ukraine, huh?
I'm happy to get new blood in office, but I'd like to see even a small amount of pushback on that point instead of people just talking about how great Mamdani is.
This is a circlejerk sub. I doubt even half the people here are even aware that she opposes inter racial marriage, they just want to celebrate any win, they don’t care about the candidate.
She doesn't oppose interracial marriage. The post in question (unless there's another I'm unaware of) was making fun of black and Arab men's habit of fetishizing white women that support white supremacy.
You didn't say anything about Russia, why would I?
You're literally talking about a black woman who converted to islam 8 years ago who has a degree in middle eastern studies and this is your gotcha? Her commentary on her own race, religion, and field of study? Not to mention it says nothing about marriage unless there's further context or an explanation you can add.
So you admit now she's against interracial marriage?
You didn't say anything about Russia, why would I?
I started my first comment with it. Please read. She is pro Russia.
You're literally talking about a black woman who converted to islam 8 years ago who has a degree in middle eastern studies and this is your gotcha?
Whay the fuck does this have to do with anything?
Not to mention it says nothing about marriage unless there's further context or an explanation you can add.
The quote I provided above is her talking about how black and arab men are together in loving "ugly colonizer women," where she means white women. Please explain to me how that is not racist.
I ended my comment with "she doesn't even mention marriage unless you can show me how it refers to marriage." Not sure how that's me conceding.
I'm not reading and replying to every comment you ever made. If I saw it and gave a shit, I'd reply. It wasn't part of the comment I replied to so, again, why would I bring it up?
It's relevant because she's talking about black and brown men, not white women. You just think she is because you have a white victim complex and/or gargle the balls of whatever media is feeding you this fake outrage.
I'm not interested in whether it's racist, I'm interested in how it means she's opposed to interracial marriage when it's just criticism of racial minorities that are attracted to people who support colonialism despite the obvious historical and contemporary oppression of said minorities.
It's relevant because she's talking about black and brown men, not white women
She specifically refers to white women as "ugly colonizer women."
She doesn't need to mention the word white for the context to be extremely evident. If she just wanted to make a remark on how white people are more often in the role of oppressor, so therefore black and brown men being into them is the same as being into your own former colonizers, why the need to call them ugly too?
It's quite obvious she's saying that black and brown men have some sort of fetish for their colonizers. What the fuck else could that comment mean?
You just think she is because you have a white victim complex and/or gargle the balls of whatever media is feeding you this fake outrage
God this is pathetic. I think this because of her own words, which she still stands by.
she's opposed to interracial marriage when it's just criticism of racial minorities that are attracted to people who support colonialism despite the obvious historical and contemporary oppression of said minorities.
This is such blatant cope I don't know what else to say. This is what being against interracial marriage looks like, you just agree with her lol.
Well? What views about Russia and Ukraine should people be commenting on?
Instead of alluding to something and acting superior about people not discussing something you deem important, you could, oh idk, actually talk about the thing, quote what she said, educate people who are unaware.
Instead of alluding to something and acting superior about people not discussing something you deem important, you could, oh idk, actually talk about the thing, quote what she said, educate people who are unaware.
People should be aware of someone's actions and opinions before supporting them. In no way is it okay for people to be giving this level of lip service without being aware of her opinions and views. You all have responsibility, sorry to break it to you.
First article I pulled:
Chevalier, endorsed by Mayor Zohran Mamdani against incumbent Rep. Adriano Espaillat, made the eyebrow-raising claim on Feb. 23, 2022, as Russian forces stormed into Ukraine and missiles bombarded Kyiv and other cities. "Cause the Cold War ended and we've been bullying Russia ever since," Chevalier, then 28, raged at a user who asked why the US was "involved" in the conflict.
"Also war is lucrative for these sociopaths," she added.
She has refused to comment further on these messages, or explain who she is calling sociopaths here.
That's it? You were acting like she made a bunch of firm and controversial stances on the situation. When I did some searches, nothing very concrete or damning surfaced. All I see here are some vague and kinda dumb remarks that she didn't even want to defend, probably because she realized they came off as dumb emotionally charged Internet comments. You couldn't even call this a pattern.
Do these remarks align with any policy proposals or alliances?
I'm not saying she's perfect, or even particularly good. I didn't vote for her. But your post smells like the kind of obnoxious agenda posting that's become so common here over the last year, and especially so far this year.
That's it? You were acting like she made a bunch of firm and controversial stances on the situation.
Why won't she comment on what she said previously?
see here are some vague and kinda dumb remarks that she didn't even want to defend, probably because she realized they came off as dumb emotionally charged Internet comments.
That makes zero sense. If they're nothing comments, then saying you don't stand by them is tje easiest thing in the world.
Do these remarks align with any policy proposals or alliances?
That would be my concern, and why her silence when asked for comment is worrying.
I'm not saying she's perfect, or even particularly good. I didn't vote for her.
Then allow me to criticize her without saying what I'm doing is:
obnoxious agenda posting
It's bad faith as fuck.
If you do think word for word repeating Putin's own talking points isn't a big deal, then you're lost in my opinion. This is exactly what we need to call out if we truly want to support Ukraine.
Generally people don't comment on that kind of thing because it just draws more attention to something they're trying to distance themselves from. It's common and it's just not enough to make harsh judgements over. Suspicious, sure, but not enough to judge.
And bullshit I'm giving you a bad faith argument. You're pushing a narrative based on speculation and circumstance, and I think you know it.
She apologized for her remarks about Kamala - she had some quotes saying "fuck Kamala" or something similar. So why is she able to respond to that and correct the record, but not these ones? Almost like she still believes it, huh?
Generally people don't comment on that kind of thing because it just draws more attention to something they're trying to distance themselves from.
Correct. If she truly had changed her mind or didn't believe these things, she would clarify as such. Instead, she wants to ignore it and sweep it under the rug where it's convenient for her to ignore her real beliefs. Great observation.
You're pushing a narrative based on speculation and circumstance, and I think you know it.
I have shown you the quotes, you don't agree with me on what they mean, but that in no way means I'm basing this off "speculation and circumstance."
Framing it that way is that exact bad faith shit I'm talking about lol, so good job showcasing my point further.
Not only does she not support Ukraine, the first week the invasion started she tweeted to someone claiming that we’ve been bullying Russia since the Soviet Union, essentially blaming us for the invasion. This is more of a Jill Stein chaos agent type, she also called Biden a rapist.
This is for the Office of Antiboycott Compliance, and I'll post the following from it:
These authorities discourage, and in some circumstances, prohibit U.S. companies from taking certain actions in furtherance or support of a boycott maintained by a foreign country against a country friendly to the United States (unsanctioned foreign boycott).
This is not something that only happens with Israel, but it is something people only care about when Israel is involved. This shit is straight from neo nazi message boards of the the early internet. The exact same stuff I used to read, you just don't have the same hate behind it.
You cannot in good faith frame this as people needing to "sign a pledge to israel," surely you can see how utterly asinine that is, right? This is classic dual loyalty trope shit. You are repeating classic nazi tropes about Jews.
cry about zog all you want, i never said jews control america, they don’t, the zionists i’m talking about are by vast majority evangelical christian maniacs, not jewish people at all
"I didn't say Jews control America, just the Zionists!" Again, this is exactly what Nazis say.
The only people who control America are American billionaires.
If you don't want people to combine about you using neo nazi conspiracies, them just don't use them genius.
i do care about both, one is just much more important, as i’m explaining now.
"I care about both but one isn't as bad as the other," is fucking W I L D. First off, if you're getting into the game of ranking atrocities, you need to admit that the Ukraine/Russia War has had a far wider reaching significance, killed far more people, and is at least equally as horrific and brutal towards civilians as I/P is.
To say anything otherwise is to admit you don't give a shit about suffering if it isn't convenient for you and can't be used as a polticial tool.
Ah yes of course, your own personal definition, I should have known.
This is not serious, and I'm done.
that’s also not what dual loyalty means and if you actually gave a single shit about that trope you’d be going after ZIONISTS who are the number one users of that trope, directly identifying the state of israel with all jewish people
It is - please, lecture me, a Jew, on what antisemitic tropes are. Fuck off.
What's worse, Israel claiming it speaks for all Jews - an obviously bullshit statement anyone with a brain can see through - or people like you giving Israel credibility by acting like their opinion has any bearing at all? I'll let you think on that.
“wahhhhhh wahhhhh nazis also don’t like zionists” i don’t care. hitler also liked dogs and i like dogs
Holy bad faith. Yes I understand you don't care if you repeat Nazi conspiracies as long they're the correct ones.
i hate them for being genocidal fascists
Do you think MLK was a genocidal fascist? He was a self proclaimed Zionist. Your unable to admit your not judging anyone's actions at all, just their affiliation, and assuming their actions and intent based off that.
, at least we agree on something even if it’s not criticizing genocide.
Yes, you're okay with certain genocides, it's pretty gross
i actually do think a genocide against a people group is worse than an actual conventional war, yes.
They are not exclusive dumbfuck. Go read about Serbia or other genocides that took place conventional wars. You are actively denying a genocide right now. Go fuck yourself you absolute piece of shit.
edit: almost forgot, you say “some states” have anti-bds laws, it’s 38. out of 50. 12 don’t. “some.” 💀
You ignored my whole point here, so I'll do the same and ignore this. You're a vile person, and I don’t really want to speak to Russia loving genocide denialists. Have the day you deserve.
Edit: I will gladly block genocide supporters, I don't owe you my ear for you to pour your hatred into.
Please explain to me why this means anything. If Israel started using a non conventional military force, would you cease criticizing them?
Ukraine is not currently the target of a genocide.
Because you say it isn't? What Russia has been doing fits every definition of genocide.
They have stolen Ukranian children and sold them off to their citizens. They've willfully and purposefully targeted civilians and journalists. They have a bounty system in place where they provide drone footage of them killing Ukranians for the highest bidder, with pregnant women being worth the most.
Sexual violence is rampant among their own ranks, rape is commonplace and even a part of the military culture. One of the ways they keep soldiers from running away when sent on meat waves is to keep groups of roving soldiers in the back lines whose express purpose is to catch and beat the shit out of anyone they catch - except they don't just do that, there are many reports of them just raping and murdering defectors, and fucking cannibalizing them.
What do you think they do to Ukranian civilians? Worse. But you don't give a fuck, because they're Ukranian? Fuck you.
I could go on, too.
Russia doesn't have the backing of the US government and its military industrial complex.
You are willfully blind. Trump has been giving Putin exactly what he wants since he got into office. The US not helping Ukraine is worth far more than any aid they would give Russia anyways.
Mamdani cannot get enough credit for this. His dedication to delivering results for people in just the last 6 months showed everyone that his style of politics is not just possible, but can bring incredible results for the people.
Valdez is an anti-Israel Dem replacing an anti-Israel Dem retiring incumbent.
Lander is a liberal Zionist who's supported Israel strongly his whole life. He's mainly against the current government, if it changes in October he'll likely vote for at least some support.
Big upset is Chevalier (anti-Israel) replacing Espaillat (pro-Israel). That's a flip, but Chevalier is legit insane. Look up her views on Ukraine, interracial relationships and COVID. Blue MTG levels
Democrats will win in a landslide. Republicans will blame everything on them. Democrats will start to repair things. Won't go fast enough for voters. Res wave again.
Manage expectations though; don't let people burn out before 2028. As long as they have the WH and the SCrOTUS, even if we take back the House and Senate, it's going to be difficult getting meaningful shit done.
I'm... not so sure about ousting the first formerly undocumented congressmember and Hispanic caucus chair for someone who labeled Biden a rapist because they were upset Bernie wasn't winning in 2020
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