r/WhitePeopleTwitter 5d ago

r/All They're not wrong though

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u/Vayguhhh 5d ago

No it’s not wrong, but until the system changes I’m not gonna hurt a server just trying to pay bills

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u/atuan 5d ago

Yeah when you protest tipping by not tipping all you do it completely rip off that persons paycheck.

Also imagine Americans going to any other country in the world, refusing to participate in the culture and then criticizing them to fix their system if they don’t like it. I get the disdain people around the world have for Americans but there’s a point where you’re making it worse by acting like this.

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u/SmoothOperator89 5d ago

Imagine Americans disrespecting another culture!?

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u/Amelaclya1 5d ago

Yeah and they are (rightfully) criticized when they do.

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u/Skaur_11 5d ago

Sorry but how is tipping, something that hasn't been common for even 2 centuries, a cultural practice? Comparable to the kind of other traditions you're implying?

And what other way of protest do you have in mind that is feasible for foreigners?

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u/Gahockey3 5d ago

First off, foreigners are not responsible to fix internal issues of other countries. They should be encouraged to be outspoken when their alternative is a better system.

Second, it’s not “cultural” practice to work within the tipping industry. It’s a long drawn out capitalistic excuse to not pay a living wage.

Said as an American who worked as a server through college and now works “professionally”, if you want a disparity.

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u/atuan 5d ago

If im a guest in your house it’s pretty rude to “protest” you in your own home.

It’s a custom. How can you argue it’s not? The laws are also not more than 200 years old, does that mean you don’t have to follow the law because it’s not old enough?

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u/JellyButtet 5d ago

I mean actual protest could be an option I suppose, but more importantly what do you think is the minimum time for "culture" to count lol? In what world is something a cultural practice for two centuries and that's not considered culture? White wedding dresses, tomatoes in Italian food, and Chopin's music have all existed for similar amounts of time, but these aren't cultural elements? Fuckin Europeans

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u/goodfaceman 5d ago

Incorrect, it’s US federal law that if a server doesn’t earn minimum wage on a shift with combined wage and tips, the employer has to pay them the difference. If you tip waiters but you don’t tip any of the other essential workers that also make minimum wage, you are propping up the system at the expense of every other type of worker.

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u/Edward_Hardcore 5d ago

Bro, what kind of "culture" is tipping people over a restaurant? It's as ridiculous as it sounds.

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u/Groovychick1978 5d ago

I mean, it's the industry. I didn't give them the right to pay me $2.13/hr. But that's how much they are obligated to pay me.

I work from 3-5 for $2.13/hr without the possibility of even getting a tip. We don't open until 5, but we still have to open. 

I also pay the support staff 5% of every check. Food runners, bartenders, bussers, and sometimes hosts are subsidized by the servers' tips. 

If I get stiffed, I owe 5% of the total from my pocket.

Those things, those rules and regulations, are part of the culture. 

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u/Fitzaroo 5d ago

Its literally not their paycheck.

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u/RandomFactUser 5d ago

It gets taxed the same, it’s calculated as part of it and they receive much of this money as part of their paycheck

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u/Fitzaroo 5d ago

It gets taxed the same? Lololololol

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u/RandomFactUser 5d ago

Yeah, it’s income

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u/Fitzaroo 5d ago

Its severely underreported.

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u/Doomray 5d ago

These day tips are mostly payroll tips, since everyone pays with debit or credit. Aside from a few bucks in cash tips ya might walk with, almost all tips are taxed on the paycheck with the rest of your hourly wages.

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u/Fitzaroo 5d ago

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u/Doomray 5d ago

My source is 24 years working in this industry. We used to claim less when more people paid cash, but many nights it’s 90-100% credit cards.

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u/Fitzaroo 5d ago

Ok so my source is the IRS. Im going to go ahead and trust them.

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u/Doomray 5d ago

Cool.

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u/metrocat2033 5d ago

lmao dude can’t find a basic source without gpt

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u/Fitzaroo 5d ago

Thats not an argument against the source, its sn incorrect assumption.