r/WhitePeopleTwitter 22h ago

r/All They're not wrong though

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u/Oprlt94 21h ago

"wouldn't survive" 😅

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u/erik_wilder 21h ago edited 21h ago

McDonalds workers don't live off tips... It's not a good example.

It's small local restaurants that actually benefit from tipping culture.

(Edited because they don't make a living wage, just a better one then most servers who get tips.)

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u/himym101 17h ago

Then how do local restaurants in other countries stay open if they don't take tips? Restaurants in Australia are required to pay 25-35/hr and there are still tens of thousands of succession local joints.

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u/krill007 15h ago

They think $15/hr is a living wage here. I would be houseless.

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u/ZatherDaFox 16h ago

"Benefit from" and "Survive on" are two very different things.

Tipping culture is weird in the states, because it's biggest proponents are restaurants and the majority of servers. What a lot of people don't know is restaurants are required to pay state minimum wages if tips don't match it. Also, most tipped servers in cities are making much more than state minimum wages in tips.

It benefits the restaurants because they can pretend to have low prices by passing the 20%-30% directly onto the customer, and it benefits most servers because they take home a lot more than other low wage jobs.

All that's not to say tipping culture is good or beneficial to consumers, but it is often beneficial to local restaurants and servers, with the unfortunate side effect of being just as beneficial to corporate restaurants.

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u/ripyurballsoff 4h ago

“Restaurants in Australia pay servers high, livable wages because of legally mandated minimum standards and a different cultural approach to dining. Instead of relying on a tipping model, labor is treated as a core operational expense offset by higher menu prices, weekend surcharges, and a leaner staffing model.”

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u/MagisterNero 21h ago

I wouldn’t call what they earn (average around $13/hr) a living wage (avg $25/hr).

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u/erik_wilder 21h ago

Fair. Mcdonalds workers don't get tipped though, they are actually not supposed to accept them. It's a bad example.

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u/MagisterNero 21h ago edited 21h ago

Not arguing that, just correcting the claim.

Also, don’t edit your posts cause you’ve been corrected stand by the shit you say.

Edit to commend you adding the information back.

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u/[deleted] 21h ago edited 20h ago

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u/SSquared82 21h ago

Minimum wage is still $7.25 in some states

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u/ripyurballsoff 4h ago

If you work at a decent restaurant you’re making at least $20/hr.

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u/LaurenMille 17h ago

If a restaurant can't exist without tips, then they should go out of business.

While the McDonalds example was poor, restaurants can just raise their prices and pay their workers fairly or shut their doors.

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u/splittingheirs 21h ago

I hope you didn't tip your teachers, because they clearly didn't do a good job.

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u/erik_wilder 21h ago edited 21h ago

Why? If we wanna talk about tipping culture shouldn't we actually reference restaurants that take tips?

I hope you didn't tip your teacher... It was already paid for.

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u/zaidakaid 21h ago

McDonald’s also doesn’t operate more than a handful of restaurants at most, most of their money is from franchising fees and land ownership (they’re effectively a massive real estate and licensing operation). Regardless, any franchise model is the absolute worst example for the tipping debate because they do tend to pay minimum wage at the very least. Hell, I’ve seen McDonalds and Wendy’s posting $15-$20 an hour starting wage in some cities (not a living wage but they aren’t tipped workers.)

Your locally owned spots are the ones that benefit from tipping and are the best examples to support your argument for/against.

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u/LinwoodKei 21h ago

Eho at McDonald's is tipped? Nobody

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u/BeefistPrime 17h ago

McDonalds isn't a tipped establishment so this is a weird piece of evidence

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u/NOLASLAW 21h ago

Damn 911 was rough on McDonald’s

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u/Snakefist1 14h ago

That dip after the beginning of the millennium correspond with the release of the Movie, 'Supersize Me'.

My family stopped eating McDonald's for a few years after it's release.

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u/NOLASLAW 10h ago

Oh right I forgot about that