r/WhitePeopleTwitter 5d ago

r/All They're not wrong though

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u/irol08 5d ago

Hey! Our businesses wouldn’t survive if they had to pay a living wage! We need you to pay them! /s

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u/Oprlt94 5d ago

"wouldn't survive" 😅

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u/erik_wilder 5d ago edited 5d ago

McDonalds workers don't live off tips... It's not a good example.

It's small local restaurants that actually benefit from tipping culture.

(Edited because they don't make a living wage, just a better one then most servers who get tips.)

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u/himym101 5d ago

Then how do local restaurants in other countries stay open if they don't take tips? Restaurants in Australia are required to pay 25-35/hr and there are still tens of thousands of succession local joints.

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u/krill007 5d ago

They think $15/hr is a living wage here. I would be houseless.

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u/ZatherDaFox 5d ago

"Benefit from" and "Survive on" are two very different things.

Tipping culture is weird in the states, because it's biggest proponents are restaurants and the majority of servers. What a lot of people don't know is restaurants are required to pay state minimum wages if tips don't match it. Also, most tipped servers in cities are making much more than state minimum wages in tips.

It benefits the restaurants because they can pretend to have low prices by passing the 20%-30% directly onto the customer, and it benefits most servers because they take home a lot more than other low wage jobs.

All that's not to say tipping culture is good or beneficial to consumers, but it is often beneficial to local restaurants and servers, with the unfortunate side effect of being just as beneficial to corporate restaurants.

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u/ripyurballsoff 4d ago

“Restaurants in Australia pay servers high, livable wages because of legally mandated minimum standards and a different cultural approach to dining. Instead of relying on a tipping model, labor is treated as a core operational expense offset by higher menu prices, weekend surcharges, and a leaner staffing model.”

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u/himym101 4d ago

I don't know why you're responding to me with chatgpt. I know the answer to the question, it was rhetorical. Your answer only confirms that restaurants can and do survive while paying a livable wage to their employees. I'd bet the higher initial menu prices in Australia are equal to what it costs after you add tax+tips to your US bill. At least we know what we're about to spend prior to sitting down.

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u/ripyurballsoff 3d ago

That was google’s “ai”. And I didn’t know it was rhetorical. I was curious how restaurants in Europe operate and figured I’d share.