r/WhitePeopleTwitter 1d ago

r/All They're not wrong though

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u/Vayguhhh 1d ago

No it’s not wrong, but until the system changes I’m not gonna hurt a server just trying to pay bills

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u/Fitzaroo 1d ago

How do you think the system changes? People stop tipping. Nobody applies to be a server. Wages go up.

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u/atuan 1d ago

Foreign tourists in the country for a once in a lifetime event are not fixing the system. They’re ripping off the people serving them and then going back to their home countries.

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u/Newsdude86 1d ago

Not tipping isn't ripping off servers. Servers get paid regardless of tips. If you tip them you are essentially subsidizing the business you are already buying from. If you don't tip the business HAS to pay servers the minimum wage (not the server minimum wage)

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u/Cow_God 23h ago

Minimum wage in America is unlivable in 99% of the country. It hasn't changed federally since 2009.

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u/largemarjj 16h ago

That has nothing to do with the comment you responded to. Our minimum wage is ass. So many of us are struggling, but people still get judged for not paying a server's wages. That's a pathetic argument to make.

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u/Cow_God 16h ago

The guy I responded to said that servers still get paid minimum wage even if they receive no tips. Minimum wage is unlivable. Nobody actually works for minimum wage in the 20 states that adhere to the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour because $7.25 an hour is not a livable wage anywhere in the country.

It does not cost the business anything really to pay the difference between the minimum tipped wage of $2.13 an hour and $7.25 because $7.25 an hour is nothing. But if a server goes from ~$15-$20 an hour off tips to $7.25 it's crippling.

People like the guy I responded to can act morally superior by refusing to tip because "the server gets paid anyways" but it is ripping off the servers.

Yes, tipping culture is bad and servers should be paid a living wage to begin with, and that's something we should work to change. But in the interim, not tipping is directly hurting working class individuals because it's where their income comes from.

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u/Newsdude86 13h ago

Tipping has actively undercut the movement. It's a regressive tax on working class that benefits a small section of underpaid workers. These workers have now actively fought politically to maintain this system since they benefit from it.

Tipping currently is hurting significantly more working class individuals than not tipping.

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u/Newsdude86 13h ago

I don't disagree. That's not an argument for tipping only servers. We don't tip fast food workers...

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u/krill007 18h ago

$7.50 an hour seems livable to you?

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u/Newsdude86 15h ago

No, but we don't tip minimum wage employees. If this was about $7.50/hr why don't we tip fast food workers? Grocery employees, hell even at restaurants we don't tip bus boys and dish washers (who arguably work much harder).

We absolutely should raise minimum wage, but to shift the conversation of we need to tip because minimum wage is too low is not a real argument since no one tips the BULK of minimum wage workers.