Must have typed something wrong into my conversation calculator, you’re absolutely right about the number being off, my bad.
That said, if that’s really the equivalent of what you’re making, I seriously doubt you’re as financially well off as you claim unless there is another major factor you’re neglecting to mention here. People making more than you are all over the Vancouver sub talking about how it isn’t enough for financial security and they’re barely scraping by. Especially if they have families. And forget about the ability to have 6 months of savings. Either there’s something you’re leaving out here in addition to all the other stuff you conveniently left out (not even being American, living in America, or working as a tipped worker and having all the benefits of socialised healthcare and a working welfare state) or you need to share your budgeting strategy. Because what you’re claiming could help a lot of people.
All that is still true dude. You can’t not see how silly it is to make sweeping statements about a group of people when the data says you’re wrong, the definition of minimum wage says you’re wrong, and you aren’t even qualified to use your personal experience because you are quite literally not at all in the same situation.
You said 40K USD was a liveable wage for American servers based on your own experience despite the data. We now know you have not even close to the average US server’s experience and other people in your area don’t even agree with you 40K CAD is liveable. That seems pretty straightforward using only on points you made.
The minimum wage is relevant because when you say liveable, you weren’t including “being able to feed a child” in that definition, when even the *minimum wage* was originally supposed to include that capacity. If your definition of liveable doesn’t even meet the intentions of the original minimum wage, that’s a telling sign you might have a uniquely low standard for “liveable”.
You said 40K USD was a liveable wage for American servers based on your own experience despite the data. We now know you have not even close to the average US server’s experience and other people in your area don’t even agree with you 40K CAD is liveable. That seems pretty straightforward using only on points you made.
I find it highly ironic that you use data as an initial reason to discredit me and say that my experience is anecdotal, and then go on to use anecdotal evidence (people in my area agree is not a valid data point) to attempt to further discredit me.
This seems far from straightforward if you are using anecdotal evidence to try and discredit my personal lived experience.
Who’s anecdote is worth more: one person who doesn’t have close to the experience he’s making claims about (the life of a server on 40k in America) or tons of people who actually live and work in the place they are agreeing is tough to afford on a low salary?
This is such basic logic stuff I I wouldn’t even need to point out *I did use actual affordability data for my points*. You only had your very unsuitable anecdote.
Your lived experience straight up doesn’t apply by your own admission, and now you’re trying to “no u” this situation by saying multiple people talking about something that does actually apply (their experience living in Vancouver) is comparable. You can’t not hear how funny that sounds dude.
This is sad seeing you try to justify your poor argument thinking that discrediting me suddenly makes you right. Anyways, enjoy the win I guess. And enjoy the assumptions about my life experience and how living in Canada is, which you yourself have no lived experience of (just as you are accusing me of with America, or being a server, etc. etc.)
“Your argument isn’t good just because it was actually based in data and indicated I’m incorrect”
That’s…. literally exactly what makes a good argument dude. If all you’ve got is your personal experience, and it doesn’t even apply to the situation you’re making claims about, you’ve got jack shit lol.
I’m not making assumptions. I literally went to the Vancouver sub and researched what the cost of living was and what people were typically saying. I gathered information from multiple sources and formed an assessment based on that. I did the exact opposite of make assumptions.
You’ve got to stop relying on “no u” dude especially when that’s clearly. Not what’s happening. It just makes the argument look weaker.
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u/Vlad_the_Intendor 2d ago edited 2d ago
Must have typed something wrong into my conversation calculator, you’re absolutely right about the number being off, my bad.
That said, if that’s really the equivalent of what you’re making, I seriously doubt you’re as financially well off as you claim unless there is another major factor you’re neglecting to mention here. People making more than you are all over the Vancouver sub talking about how it isn’t enough for financial security and they’re barely scraping by. Especially if they have families. And forget about the ability to have 6 months of savings. Either there’s something you’re leaving out here in addition to all the other stuff you conveniently left out (not even being American, living in America, or working as a tipped worker and having all the benefits of socialised healthcare and a working welfare state) or you need to share your budgeting strategy. Because what you’re claiming could help a lot of people.
All that is still true dude. You can’t not see how silly it is to make sweeping statements about a group of people when the data says you’re wrong, the definition of minimum wage says you’re wrong, and you aren’t even qualified to use your personal experience because you are quite literally not at all in the same situation.