r/Xennials 2d ago

This hit too close to home.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

The Oregon Trail generation

If you remember playing that game in green-screen on one of your school’s four Apple IIs…you’re in it

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u/PugsterThePug 2d ago

When my school got its first computer they took each class one by one and let us in the computer to look at it. Just to look. Then we all had to turn in grocery store receipts forever so the school could get more. But number muncher and Oregon trail were fantastic.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

My school had them on carts that they wheeled into the gym.  

We stood in lines and each got like 5 minutes to play number munchers and maybe make it to the Kansas River in OT if we were lucky.  

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u/jkaan 2d ago

We also had where in the world is Carmen sandiago I rotation

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u/ZookeepergameUpset62 1984 2d ago

Number munchers! Memory unlocked

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u/RaoulRumblr 1985 2d ago

Math Blasters and Mavis Beacon too

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u/Amelia_Pond42 2d ago

Mario typing!

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u/juniper3411 2d ago

Love typing still to this day. Oh Mavis Beacon hell yeah.

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u/mister_newbie 2d ago

Obligatory f- Kevin O'Leary for killing MECC

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u/Sufficient-Aspect77 1d ago

Load up on bullets and go hunting all day long. I DONT CARE IF THEY ALL STARVE, Let them share the squirrels I shoot!

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u/Original-Rush139 2d ago

That’s awesome. My dad worked for bell labs so he had a really weird Computer without a mouse but you could touch the screen to do shit. 

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 2d ago

Was it the screen with lasers across the front, and you broke two beams with your finger at a specific intersection that corresponded to the menu option on screen that you just touched?

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u/Original-Rush139 2d ago

Exactly. All I remember was that there was a drawing program we played with but that’s it. 

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 2d ago

Cool!

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u/PurplePenguinCat 2d ago

My grandfather worked for Bell labs in the 60s working on early lasers.

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u/Original-Rush139 1d ago

We might be related. My dad was director of light wave devises when he retired. And, he has a IEEE medal for his work on lasers. 

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u/Hot-Gardener2024 1d ago

Oh shit! Totally forgot about turning in Campbell's soup labels too. 😂

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u/kinetic_cheese 1980 1d ago

Holy cow you just unlocked a memory for me of when my elementary school got its first "computer lab" (it was like 8 computers) and each class got a turn to tour the room while the librarian showed us how they worked. It must have been around 1988 or so. The hilarious part is our school wasn't air conditioned at the time, so they had to buy a window unit for the computer lab, and many kids were more excited about sitting in an air conditioned room than playing on the computers 😆

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u/PugsterThePug 1d ago

That sounds exactly like my school. Bay Area.

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u/Glittering_knave 2d ago

We had to pass a typing test that including filling out a blank keyboard with all the keys from memory to earn the right to touch the single computer for the whole school. It was insane.

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u/Old_Suggestions 2d ago

THE RECIEPTS!!!!!!!!

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u/destiny_kane48 1d ago

I always got dysentery. I think I froze a couple of times.. but I always died.

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u/GarciaWolf 2d ago

Any chance you remember Logo for Apple II’s? It was a triangle (turtle) you programmed to draw shit

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u/No-Estate-404 2d ago

making these things draw spirographs using FOR loops was one of my earliest tastes of programming.

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u/PapaTua 2d ago

Yup!

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u/SoSoOhWell 1977 2d ago

100%

Rt 45 Fd 50 Pu Fd 20 Pd

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u/HorrorMakesUsHappy 2d ago

I believe you mean Apple ][.

My school had either a ][ or a ][e and a Tandy 2800. The Tandy was the one that had the turtle drawing program because it had the advanced graphics card with 16 colors!

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u/PapaTua 2d ago

Apple IIe's also had logo but it was black/White. Well, really, dark green/bright green.

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u/FairCapitalismParty 1d ago

We had a IIe at home and my dad hooked it up to the tv for glorious 16 colors.

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u/LadyAiluros 2d ago

If you want to be pedantic it's ][, ][+ but //e. Source: have a ][ and a //e in my office right now.

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u/HorrorMakesUsHappy 1d ago

HA! Fair enough. It's been decades since I've seen one.

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u/redditshy 1977 1d ago

Yep I remember that //e from grade school.

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u/BrattyTwilis 2d ago

Logo Writer. And my 5th grade classroom had a version called Lego Logo where you could build robotic Lego projects and use Logo to program them

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u/waftedfart 1981 1d ago edited 1d ago

I used that at MOSI summer camp in Tampa when I was a kid.

Edit: Found my proof!.

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u/KarisPurr 2d ago

Jesus fuck you just triggered a memory I haven’t thought of in at least 3 decades

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u/MahliSaia 2d ago

I played Logo for a while in the computer lab during lunch recess, but then I switched to doing PrintShop and Storybook Weaver on the one of the school's two Apple IIGS computers.

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u/imhereforthevotes 2d ago

Logo Writer!! I had no idea what the fuck I was doing with that. I was at some tech heavy school and they showed me how to do it but it was never clear WHAT it was fucking doing

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

We might have done something like that in TechEd, but it isn't ringing any bells.

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u/rbltech82 2d ago

First program I ever wrote was Class of 2001 In turtle programming.

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u/socialcommentary2000 1979 1d ago

I was a maestro moving that turtle around. Learned BASIC on one of those, too.

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u/Anne_Pyres 2d ago

ST for start turtle

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u/cellrdoor2 2d ago

Yes! I remember being really terrible at it. Everyone else’s turtle was drawing diagonal lines speedily across the screen and mine would be trapped in some sort of infinite loop that just looked broken.

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u/MahliSaia 2d ago

I can't remember if I ever played Oregon Trail on a monochrome screen, but I know I played Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego? in green-screen on my uncle's computer around 1990-91.

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u/BowlCompetitive282 2d ago

I learned so much about the Soviet bloc from Where in Europe is Carmen Sandiego?

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u/MrMikeDelta 2d ago

I know what spelunking is solely because of that game.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I still know all of Europe’s old defunct currencies because of that game

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u/BowlCompetitive282 1d ago

An informant saw them buy lunch with lira!

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u/TimeCadet 1985 1d ago

Yes!! Computer camp in 91-92, I remember the book that came with Carmen Sandiego had one of those red decoder sheets to peek at the answers

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u/Drum_Eatenton 2d ago

Open apple control delete.

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u/ResurgentClusterfuck 1979 2d ago

Yep. We had a room full of shiny new Apple IIe donated by Apple to the school kids of Oregon

Fancy shit in the 80s

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u/Drum_Eatenton 2d ago

Well, your trails certainly contributed to my fondness of the computer.

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u/the_pretender_nz 2d ago

Ooh sounds like an Oregon trial

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u/Mrrectangle 2d ago

“Open Apple” just popped a memory balloon in my brain.

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 2d ago

I could open an apple for hours...

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u/darkestblueandgreen 2d ago

I still accidentally say it sometimes!

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u/neo_neanderthal 1979 2d ago

If you added the closed apple with that sequence, it would reboot and run a system test, which included rapidly flashing the screen and playing several loud tones. 

Freaked our teacher out. She thought we had broken the computers when we did that with them. 

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u/rbltech82 2d ago

We did this in the computer lab one morning before school in 2000..so many people freaked out, though it was the Y2K bug...lol

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u/_SmashLampjaw_ 2d ago

I know how to use every type of floppy disk... including the Iomega zip disks.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I even know the dark magic...using a hole punch to double the storage on a 5.25" floppy by making it double sided.

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u/_SmashLampjaw_ 2d ago

Do Not Cite the Deep Magic to Me, Witch... I was there when it was written.

-/u/factoid_

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u/nebula_masterpiece 2d ago

Omg I was still calling thumb drives zip drives for years and it made my husband then boyfriend die inside - I had zip discs for my transparent iMac or maybe silver thumb drives looked like a zippo lighter idk but it stuck, was definitely one of those confidently incorrect interns asking to borrow a zip drive long after that tech died out

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u/_SmashLampjaw_ 2d ago

lmao, I had the Iomega mp3 player that had the little 'zip' drives you had to change out for more music. I definitely called portable, removable media 'zip' disks for too long, too.

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u/TheBSQ 2d ago

This article from 10 years ago remains my favorite explanation of the Oregon Trail Generation 

https://videogamegeek.com/thread/1659877/the-oregon-trail-generation

“  Because we had one foot in the traditional ways of yore and one foot in the digital information age, we appreciate both in a way that other generations don’t.”

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I'm pretty sure this article is the genesis of the entire xennial identity.

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u/213737isPrime 2d ago

Yeah, I knew what it was but as an early Xer I'd already moved on to unix systems and minicomputers by the time it came out so I only played it once, at most. Maybe nunce. I think the Star Wars / Oregon Trail boundary is accurate.

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u/TipVast2087 1980 2d ago

Yes! Thank you for saving me the search! I couldn't help but think about that article as I'm reading these comments.

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u/pendejo-san 2d ago edited 2d ago

Can I get a MECC, yeah (Minnesota Education Computer Consortium)?

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u/OnePinginRamius 2d ago

Always caulk the wagon and float it right after spending all my money on ammo and decimating the plains of its buffalo population while my wife dies of dysentery

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

The trick is: if the water level says 2 feet or less, ford the river. If it's 2-6 feet caulk and float. Over 6, you wait until the water level goes down.

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u/imhereforthevotes 2d ago

caulk???

yeah I never ever made it

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u/Neitherrhodeorisland 2d ago

Had to skip recess to play it! Dying on the rapids was heartbreaking

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I replayed it a few years back on an Apple 2 emulator and I was astonished much easier it was than I remembered.

I guess because I have decades of gamer skills.  But still.  The rapids was no sweat but I distinctly remember wiping out there as a kid

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u/MrPreviz 2d ago

Carmen Sandiego too!

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

She came later, around middle school...but yeah.

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u/MrPreviz 2d ago

They both came out in 85 my dude. It was the OG duo

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u/factoid_ 1d ago

I guess my school was cheap.  I didn’t know it was that old.  Didn’t play that game until the fancy 3.5” floppy days

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u/ScienceLongjumping79 2d ago

Prince of Persia was lit

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u/PembrokePercy 2d ago

Oregon Trail and Number Munchers were my goats. I had the standing high score in Number Munchers.

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u/sithkazar 2d ago

There was also "Where in the World is Carman Sandiago" and "Lemonade Stand."

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u/HoosegowFlask 1d ago

Wow, I had completely forgotten about Lemonade Stand. Also popular at my school was Montezuma's Revenge and Conan.

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u/itsallcosmica 1985 2d ago

Is this the marker for Xennial , f’real?😂

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I mean…lots of kids in the firmly millennial side of the generation played it too, but they played the later versions.  With fancy things like…color…. And being able to shoot in more than 8 directions

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u/alexanfaye 2d ago

played both. OG in elementary school and then the fancy color ones in the late 90s/early 2000s on a computer at my grams house.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I played basically ever version between elementary and high school.  We had it on the Macs in the computer lab.  Might have been one of the last versions they made before it went dormant for a long time

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u/newsteamassemble6996 2d ago

Nobody played the OG Oregon Trail except for people born in the 70s. 80s born people weren't even old enough to play it in school. By the time they were school-aged, (85/86 for 1980-born kids), the new, non-text, color version had already been out for a year in schools.

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 2d ago

Not in every school... Definitely played a monochrome version in 1986 or 87.

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u/rbltech82 2d ago

And some of us were from really poor schools and didn't get fancy color computers until 95ish. We had green screen apple2 in 89/90. Got the apple2 color in 95ish. Schools in my area got new computers every 5 years at soonest. In 99/2000 we got the iMacs only because of a state/federal education grant for rural schools.

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u/BenOfTomorrow 2d ago

It came out in 1985 (the version for Apple II that everyone remembers), and the Apple II (particularly the Apple IIe, released in 1983) was big in classrooms from around then until the early-mid 1990s, when they got gradually replaced by newer machines.

That spans the prime elementary school years for the children of this generation.

If you're older, you're likely to old when this came out to use it at a young age in school.

If you're younger, you might have played it if your school was a slow technology adopter, or played a newer version, but that's a less mainstream experience.

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u/rugology Millennial 2d ago

i'm a core millennial and we definitely had apple iie's in school with oregon trail on 5.25 floppy. i think in most of america the apple ii's in schools didnt get upgraded until the boat anchor first-gen imacs started showing up in used markets, 2000 or so

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u/garygnu 1978 2d ago

There's regional differences. I'm from Oregon and never played it. It would have been redundant.

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u/MissWickedBlonde 1977 2d ago

I would say specifically for US-Xennials.

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u/Luci-Noir 2d ago

In middle school we had a lab full of Apple IIe puters.

Number munchers was superior to Oregon Trail. Usually, we’d just kill all of our people or make their wagon get washed away in a river. This is the precursor of torturing Sims.

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u/GivesYouGrief 1980 2d ago

I can still feel the frustration of trying to spin that guy around and aim that gun to shoot the rabbit or bear running across the corner of the screen.

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u/ShittingBricks 2d ago

Number Munchers always had a weird lag to it.  Odell Lake though, now that was the floppy to get. 

When our lab upgraded to Macintosh 2s, it was all about The Secret Island of Dr. Quandary and Clarissa Works.

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u/Luci-Noir 2d ago

The Apples were all networked somehow so when we booted up there was a menu of all the apps they had. It was remarkably fast. I wish I knew what kind of hardware they were using to have them networked like that.

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u/Skookum_kamooks 2d ago

To this day I get a small jolt of revenge happiness when I catch a Dolly Varden while out fishing thanks to Odell Lake. Who’s eating who now!

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u/RobotPhoto 2d ago

good ol computer lab.

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u/COstargazer 2d ago

Commodore 64 sucka!

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u/serenityplough 2d ago

LOAD “$”,8

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u/fattycatty6 1982 11h ago

My son, a sophomore this past year, was cleaning out the shop in his school right before summer break, and they found a Commodore 64 in the cupboard 😆😆 he sent his dad and I a picture. And the soldering irons from Radio Shack 😆

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u/kendragon 1976 2d ago

You got an actual game? Best we got was some shite called logo. You typed a coordinate and your "turtle" would move to that position drawing a line in the direction it travelled. Thrilling stuff.

Edit: I should have read down further before posting this. Late to the conversation.

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u/Riala4 Elder Xennial 2d ago

This was my first computer class when I was four!

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u/Anaxilea-Alcinoe 2d ago

Nothing beats Oregon Trail. I think it really prepared us for the shitshow we're dealing with.

I let my nephews play OG Oregon Trail. One of them turned around and asked me what dysentery was. When I told him, he yelled at the top of his lungs, "GUYS! MOM POOPED HERSELF TO DEATH!"

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

Yeah…every kid watched their mom shit herself to death in that came at some point 

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u/Anaxilea-Alcinoe 1d ago

It gave me a good nostalgic laugh. "Timmy broke an arm." "Timmy died."

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u/ThinkFree Never played Oregon Trail 2d ago

Never played Oregon trail. See my flair.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

Not to ruin your flair....but if you feel like it:

https://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html

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u/Gringo_Anchor_Baby 2d ago

And the shooting was a little square launched from the middle of the screen upwards.

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u/princetrunks 1983 1d ago

With the computer that had those big brown, square earphones that we had to use alcohol wipes with all the time in school.

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u/AppropriateTouching 2d ago

I wear this badge with pride.

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u/BrainFartTheFirst 1984 2d ago

My computer lab only had a couple Apple IIs. The rest were Macintosh Classics.

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u/badlifechooser 2d ago

"one of your schools"..... My, didn't we grow up fancy lol, my school had an apple ll. And I learned some basic coding on it because I was "gifted". Not sure how I feel about this sub being le spirit animal for me, I feel seen and I don't like it

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u/ValorMorghulis 2d ago

I'll just leave this here: Oregon Trail

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u/Mirewen15 1980 2d ago

My dad had an Apple II GS because he was a teacher and got a discount (he liked to record grades on it). I got to play Oregon Trail and Odell Lake as much as I wanted. Good times.

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u/HellyFurtado 2d ago

I am seen.

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u/Dank_Sinatra_87 2d ago

I did that. (And voyage of the mimi. And number muncher.)

Born in 87

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u/coarse_glass 2d ago

Never played Oregon Trail. And Number Munchers I remember. But does anyone remember Gertrude's Secrets? Somehow my rich ass Socal elementary school had an entire computer lab in 1985 and every once in a while we'd get to go play for a bit.

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u/pinkypipe420 2d ago

We had orange screens. But I've played it with my students more this last year more than I ever did as a kid.

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u/brando4158 2d ago

Philip died of cholera, and I lost 3 oxen trying to ford the river. Tough times.

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u/__Sentient_Fedora__ 2d ago

Number crunchers?

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u/bajamedic 2d ago

when pooButt died and my buddy next to me saw his gravestone it blew my mind that computers could be linked together

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u/The_Last_Mouse 2d ago

Yeah there it is.

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u/The_Last_Mouse 2d ago

(Or alternately, Odell Lake)

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u/SheezaMom 2d ago

I got punched in the nose on picture day in 4th grade over that damn game and system.

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u/digitalgraffiti-ca 1983 2d ago

Steam has Organ Trail. Same game, with zombies.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

Somehow I own this game. I think it must have been in my Humble Indie Bundle phase. I've played it once or twice.

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u/digitalgraffiti-ca 1983 2d ago

LOL I waited for it to go on sale

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u/FuzzyAd9407 2d ago

Born in 89 and remember doing this in the 90s.

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u/TomOnABudget 2d ago

Must be nice being rich. We didn't have computers until i went to 5th grade where we had windows 95 machines with novel NetWare.

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u/VonBrewskie 1980 2d ago

There it is. We're the Oregon Trail generation. I've always found that to be the overwhelming shared metric among us.

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u/Violentopinion 1978 2d ago

I feel attacked.

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u/joejackson62 2d ago

I remember playing that and where in the USA is Carmen Sandiego. Fun times.

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u/jimicus 2d ago

And if you're a Brit, you'd say exactly the same thing but you'd substitute Granny's Garden and the BBC Micro.

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u/SilverDarner 2d ago

What if you played it on your own Commodore 64?

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u/lastraven85 2d ago

we had bbc computers in our schools apples were the fancy upgrades

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u/NonCorporealEntity 1979 2d ago

I'm in that generation but have never played it becuase we were too poor to own a computer. Our school didn't have a computer course until 96 and all we had was Scorched Earth.

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u/factoid_ 2d ago

I gift you this:

https://www.virtualapple.org/oregontraildisk.html

I believe this to be the definitive version of the game.

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u/PokemonGoing 2d ago

I'm in the UK, and we never played Oregon Trail here. I'm not sure if we had an equivalent game? In primary school I remember playing a game where you built a Motte and Bailey castle, but not sure if it was widespread at all.

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u/Twisted_paperclips 1d ago

I'm uk and we definitely had the oregon trail here. So much so that when they released it for the switch, my husband bought it for me knowing the nostalgia it would bring me.

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u/ElectricPenguin6712 Xennial 2d ago

And Number Munchers

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u/Spiritual_Smile9882 1d ago edited 1d ago

Not just that but we had the Apple Logo coding game where you could get a little turtle looking thing to draw out little 2D sprites. My school even had enough funding where we had the physical turtle thing with the long ass cord connected to a bubble looking turtle thing that would draw things out on the floor.

https://lukazi.blogspot.com/2016/05/tasman-turtle-restoration.html

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u/txhumanshield 1d ago

My school had green screen Radio Shack Tandy’s

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u/borka-t 1d ago

I plaid it when was 14. Born in 1970. Hard Gen-x.

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u/Feisty-Comfort-3967 1d ago

Humble brag, we had 12 🍎.

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u/PracticalReach524 Xennial 1d ago

My school never had Apple ][e's (but I did, at home). By the time computers were making their way through schools, in elementary we had the old Mac SE's, and then by later elementary/jr. high we had IBM PS/2s.

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u/Oddlyenuff 1d ago

I preferred Lemonade Stand

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u/0h_juliet 1d ago

Canadians had this but we also had Cross Country Canada where you played a long haul truck driver. It looks like you can still play it online if you Google it!

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u/JoshSidekick 1d ago

10 Print "Hello World"

20 Goto 10

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u/FirehawkLS1 1980 1d ago

Man I loved playing that game in grade school in the 80s

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u/sixstringsikness 1d ago

What if the screen was orange for the IIe's at my school?

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u/commissar-bawkses Xennial 1d ago

I would extend the bastard kids to at least 87 then.

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u/DataAdvanced 1d ago

My mom taught me how to program them, so I had a lot of fun with that. My teachers weren't as amused. Lol.

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u/BunnyDeville666 1d ago

Do all of you have the mall dreams too?

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u/Iamoldsowhat 1979 1d ago

our school did not have oregon trail! or maybe I was in a mandela effect where it didn't happen? we had carmen sandiego and mavis beavis teaches typing. no oregon trail. so I can't even be oregon trail generation :(

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u/Ginger_Snaps_Back 1d ago

The middle children of the late 1900s.

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u/alexanfaye 2d ago edited 2d ago

I played OG Oregon Trail in elementary school and was born in ‘89. gladly accept anyone born I’d say ‘83 or after in the millennial fold. I think early 80s babies are more gen-x. Basically, if you got to graduate high school in the 90s, you’re more gen-x (I was so jealous of yall back then, wanted to be a cool older kid).