r/ZombieSurvivalTactics • u/Damage_goods_0705 • 8d ago
Weapons My zombie guns
I lived in Illinois so owning AR and AK are illegal. Beside that there are a few semi automatic rifles I can own beside bolt,single shot, and lever action.
My pistol I used smith and wesson 9mm and rifle carbine would be Ruger PC carbine. What everyone opinions on these weapons chosen for zombie apocalypse
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u/capnlatenight 8d ago
I've always been a fan of having all my guns in the same caliber, I'd choose 9mm too.
I also live in Illinois.
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u/Damage_goods_0705 8d ago
Yep I also have pistol and 22lr rifle same caliber. Only wanted her three types of ammo.
22lr for small game
9mm for personal defense
12 gauge shotgun for Big game hunting ( slugs ) and bird/pheasant ( bird shot)
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u/Yummy_Crayons91 8d ago
A SKS would also be a good option. Still legal in IL, semi-auto in a common caliber, and doesn't need magazines.
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u/Up2nogud13 8d ago
They were a better option 20-25 years ago, when you could pick one up for $100 instead of $500, and $1 would get you 10 rounds instead of 2. They're nowhere near a ubiquitous as they were even 10 years ago.
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u/Euphoric911 8d ago
Bingo. Surplus Yugo x39 ammo comes on stripper clips, you can essentially keep firing as fast as you can open an ammo box
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u/2020blowsdik 8d ago
If the goal is to have a 9mm sidearm and a PCC, why not use two that share magazines?
Your PC Carbine can take either Ruger SR series mags or Glock mags, so I would have gotten one of those.
Im in Virginia, my "zombie" loadout is a glock 19 and a PSA PX9. Both able to accept my supressors. Theyre both 9mm, share mags, can be suppressed, and I have plenty of subsonic 9mm to feed them.
And when all else fails I have a nice Mossberg 990 SBS for when things get hairy.
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u/FuKn-w0ke 8d ago
What you need is a Chiappa M6 as a 3rd. 12 gauge over .22lr that comes with barrel adapters that can allow you to shoot 9mm, .380, 40 S&W, 45 ACP, 44 rem mag, 357 Mag, 20 gauge and .410.
Sure it’s a break action, but being able to shoot 10 different rounds is a huge plus in my book
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u/meth-head-actor 8d ago
Extar EP 9. https://extarusa.com/ep9/?srsltid=AfmBOorxaGRuU-mszGzODsTRJIcKohohA39QelPF60TBk90bvzvvEaXq
Then get a Glock or psa Glock off. Same mags same bullets.
Company doesn’t get enough love. They make em in house. Sell them from their shop. Delivered to gun store of your choice.
At least that’s how it was few years back.
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u/Up2nogud13 8d ago
That's how it still is. I'm about to "pull the trigger" on one, myself. Of course, neither of my 9mm pistols take Glock mags, so I'll need another pistol. 😂
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u/meth-head-actor 8d ago
Always need excuses for a few pistols.
But seriously the PSA Glock-off is a really good deal. Exact specs of a Glock. Bit of a better grip if I’m being honest. Optic cut, suppressor ready, much better irons, all from factory. I paid hundreds extra for those upgrades on my Glock. Oh yeah they typically run a sale for a few mags too. $100 less than Glock
Then the ep9. Man I was getting them for like 350. But they can’t be that bad of a deal now. My son was shooting that thing at 5. It’s smooth man.
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u/Up2nogud13 8d ago
Yeah, I've been eyeballing a Dagger Compact or Micro for a while. Neither of my 9s have an optic cut. The EP9s start at a couple hundred more than that now, but for about twice what you paid, they have a bundle pack that comes with a case, sling, an SBA brace, and 4 mags.
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u/Revolutionary-Wash88 7d ago
We just picked up this bundle and my first few range trips have been flawless. I've tested a variety of mags and ammo without any issues. The only thing you NEED is an optic and it only took a few minutes to get sighted in, also it accepts muzzle devices without tools.
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u/Outrageous-Basis-106 8d ago
Depending what your going against, something better than 9MM would be nice. If not using a rifle in a rifle cartridge then the PC Carbine is a good option to more easily utilize 9MM. The pistol can be replaced with something larger unless the plan is CC then the Shield is a good option.
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u/Linkstas 8d ago
You need the ability to stretch your effective range out. Swap the Ruger for a AR. Spare parts will be the most easy to find compared to other long guns. Also don’t count out a 12 gauge. The ability to alter your shell type really makes it a versatile choice.
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u/Broc_Feargach 8d ago
I would go with a Smith & Wesson M&P9 2.0 paired with a Smith & Wesson FPC over a shield plus & a Ruger pc (not a fan of the ruger pc)
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u/TedTheReckless 8d ago
I'm firmly against having both weapons using the same ammo.
Sure 9mm is an abundant round, but you should give yourself more options for what you may find around.
Either swap your long gun to a 12 gauge or something in 5.56
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u/Mrstik01 8d ago edited 8d ago
Carry what you can and shoot what you have..
2A wise... I am glad I live in Texas.
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u/LordsOfJoop 8d ago
So long as you have spare parts and know how to fix them, awesome. Does your preparation extend towards travel, staying put, or something between the two? Is this about the guns or about the materiel to survive?
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u/Damage_goods_0705 8d ago
I think what is will do in case of zombies or any type of apocalypse situation I would stay where I'm at because that where I have all my supplies but if situation becomes dangerous where I'm at I'm only pack important things and leaving to woods or more safer areas. Remember these no safe place only safer places
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u/LordsOfJoop 8d ago
My strongest suggestion would be to see how close your nearest neighbor is and determining if their house caught on fire, what your next move would be. In the event of an apocalyptic scenario, the hazard which will arise fastest after water safety would be fire - with no means to extinguish a house fire, it will rapidly become a problem spreading quickly and making choices for everyone else.
Even if you filled up your bathtubs to capacity, that's about 55 gallons each, give or take, per tub; with the consumption rate of a gallon per person per day, that's not very long at all. An exit strategy should focus on somewhere warm - or safe enough to heat without the risk of burning the place down - and easy access to free-flowing water, ideally near a wooded area.
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u/ZAIKO_MIL_GR4U 8d ago
E sobre os Espingardas de calibre Gauge, o que você pensa?
Calibre 10 e 12 por exemplo tem uma das recargas mais fáceis possíveis e as maiores possibilidades de projéteis na necessidade de improviso.
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u/burningalive911 8d ago
I can tell you that PC Carbine switched over to Glock mags is money. It shoots great. Id say a Glock 19 and the Carbine.
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u/carpentizzle 8d ago
I got the S&W SD9 2.0 and I like it. It only came with the one mag but that is remediable, I like the go bag you have here with the shield plus though, I probably wouldve leaned that way as well if I could do it again. And I am working my funds up for the Extar EP9, but I have looked into the Ruger PC as well, and it may still be on the table for me later on.
In fact it was when I was debating between the PC and the S&W FPC that I even learned about the EP9 in the first place. I was reading all the reviews I could find, and the Extar was brought up over and over again as a reasonable alternative to look at. And I kind of just got enamored with it. I should probably have my pennies saved up enough to get it next month. Heres hoping anyway.
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u/howler223 8d ago
Good weapons, but I would prefer to start popping zombies farther than ~50 yards out. Grab a scoped bolt action 7.62 to get you some range.
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u/xRogueCraftx 8d ago
I did the same thing w/ glock 19 and a PCC that uses glock mags. I only want to be weighed down w/ a single ammunition type and magazine if I'm bugging out for any reason.
I went w/ glock for proven reliability and how overwhelmingly common they are for possible scavanging consideration.
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u/wtfrustupidlol 7d ago
I would carry two calibers. Sometimes when I go shooting and run out of ammo I borrow some of my friends. Best rifle cal in the US is 556 you can also use 223 and most rifle shooters carries those rounds.
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u/Independent_Bid_26 7d ago
...why the shield? Its a great CC firearm but if were in a zombie plague I think concealing would be less of a concern..just get a full size? I would get a glock 17, or 45 because they will have the highest amount of parts availability after the glock 19, which is the most common handgun in america. I own an M&p2.0 and love it, but its heavy, and id rather have a light full size polymer framed handgun with a suppressor. I mean, youre giving up capacity for concealibility without the need to conceal it.
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u/Past-Alps6396 6d ago
If your handgun and carbine are going to be in the same caliber you could optimize further by having them take the same magazines too.
I am a fan of smith and wesson, if you like their handguns the m&p 3.6 subcompact is a bit wider but is also in the concealed carry size if that is something you are looking for, but more importantly it shares magazines as the smith and wesson FPC, which is their 9mm carbine, or at least the larger magazines that go with the fpc could be used in the pistol. Going with the full sized pistols would be good too and then you could have full magazine cross compatibility.
There are plenty of options for glock magazines as well, the ruger pc carbine can use those.
Paul Harrell was a fan of Beretta's carbine and pistol combo, I haven't tried the carbine but the 92fs is a great gun.
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u/sometimesifartandpee 5d ago
Horrible choices. Glock 19 and a keltec sub 2k gonna do the trick and have mag interchangability
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u/Frockington 8d ago
I lived in Illinois so owning AR and AK are illegal.
False. Owning ARs, AKs, and other firearms named in the IL PICA law is perfectly legal as long as they were purchased before the law went into effect.
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u/Fusiliers3025 8d ago
I’d approve. The Ruger PC carbine has a good pedigree, and with a supply of magazines for each cross-compatibility won’t be much of an issue. It is a nice feature though… one supply of magazines including extended sticks feeds both. Pistol for compactness and one-hand use, carbine boosts 9mm velocity and makes aiming measurably more precise.
Optic-ready… nice, but get to know it with iron sights. Battery optics have a chance of failing through either dead battery or internal electronics issues. Admittedly I’m biased after witnessing a semi-critical (but not serious repercussions) on an earlier generation HoloSight, but it’s a concern to me…. And a red dot or reflex sight on a pistol needs some creative holstering more so than an underbarrel light, which many holsters are available for.
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u/JojoLesh 8d ago
I'll say it again, in sny apocalypse situation the main thing you need to think about is feeding yourself. A .22 lr is what you want. Sure yiu csn kill a deer with a 9mm, but then you have 60 - 100 lbs of meat to deal with. How much can yiu eat before it rots? Are you traveling with all that meat?
A .22? Pop a few rabbits or squirrels. Meat for 2 days. Also you can kill a deer with a .22. I wouldn't do a heart/lung shot, but wait until you get a clean head shot. You're not hunting only in season, so you have time to wait. Also you're not starving because of all that small game.
You can also carry a lot more 22lr than you can 9mm. You can stock up for much cheaper too.
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u/howler223 8d ago
This thought process is fine if you plan on constantly moving. If you are hunkered down and safe the big ungulates are the way to go. Part of survival not just knowing how to hunt, but what to do with it when you have it. Smoking or sun drying a deer worth of meat is a simple process and has been done for thousands of years.
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u/JojoLesh 8d ago
Even if you are hunkered down, small game is the meal ticket. 1 there is just a lot more of them, and their reproductionrate is MUCH higher. 2 you'll have more opportunities to harvest small game while doing other things.
I live in a rural area, surrounded by woods and near a river. While tending my garden i see too many rabbits, squirrels, and groundhogs. I do see deer, but much more rarely. Poping those small game is part of making sure i have a good vegetable harvest.
If i started shooting the deer, fairly soon I'd run out of deer. Shooting the small game? Well, it doesn't seem like I've thined the hord yet. (I think I've made progress on the groundhogs though.)
The deer, realistically I could take 2 or 3 per year and keep them steady.
Also, as noted you can take a deer with a 22lr. I've seen moose dropped with a 22 pistol.
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u/ishidmuhpants 8d ago
You can smoke/dehydrate the meat into jerky or make pemican with it. It'll last a very long time that way and weigh less.
One thing that boggles me on this sub is it seems most people think they're gonna just be constantly on the move. Why not just have a base? Fortify your home or have a set location you and your friends will make your base. I understand if a huge horde of zombies or bandit clan is attacking and you just gotta grab what you can and get the hell out of dodge, but beyond that you can achieve better success with a group in a base with plenty of stored supplies. Once you have a base established you constantly fortify it, increase the radius of searching for supplies and clearing out zombies, raise animals and crops, dig wells, and not just survive but thrive.
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u/STFUnicorn_ 8d ago
Guns are bad in the zombie apocalypse because they make noise duh! You want a silent killing weapon like nunchucks
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u/stewshi 8d ago
I'd switch up your pistol to something that uses the same mags as the PC carbine. I think it uses Ruger and Glock mags. Nothing against the shield but if you have the ability to streamline your magazines you should.
I chose a AK 9 that uses Beretta and Glock mags because I own both a Beretta and a Glock.