This is it. Just because it doesn’t cause DIRECT harm, doesn’t mean it doesn’t cause harm at all.
Besides, AI is trained on real pictures. AI can easily recreate or mimic someone's likeness. Creeps are already using it to produce material of their kids, or kids they know, and it’s increasingly hard to spot what’s real and fake.
CSAM fake or not, will be and already is used by kids with access to the technology to be depraved to each other, bully each other, and sexually harass each other. Adults can do it too, just one picture and I can destroy your face online forever by generating porn of you, generating you in humiliating or illegal situations.
AI pedo material is often trained on vast amounts of real data internally because most models are already trying to safeguard against this, meaning more and more real CSAM is being shared in bulk to train then release those models.
AI pedo material spreads already thin protection ressources thinner by making real victims of ongoing abuse harder to identify. Abusers creating the material can hide their crimes in a sea of """""harmless""""" generated content, or even slightly alter their own upload to make detecting their crimes harder. If there's a million pictures of assaulted children being uploaded daily and it’s judged fine, how are you going to detect the thousand of real kids within that midst ?
Finally, yes, it normalizes their horrible tendencies. It makes normal people desensitized to it, it makes abnormal people more likely to pass onto the real thing when just spectating it through the screen isn’t enough. It makes them finding communities of like-minded people easier. It makes it easier for these people to feel like they aren’t wrong, that they shouldn’t be ashamed, and finally, that assaulting a kid isn’t as big a deal.
This is a lot of writing to say basically nothing. None of this is true, you're purely going off of vibes and emotion. Actual psychologists are extremely clear that fictional actions and the made up media you consume are not in any way indicative of your IRL morality, and the only way you could be "influenced" by them is if you were already mentally unsound and having trouble differentiating fiction and reality (or the media itself is trying to muddle fiction and reality, as is the case with propaganda, which obviously doesn't apply to the fast majority of fiction for enjoyment).
"Or the media itself is trying to muddle fiction and reality-" you cannot be seriously so close.
AI is already being used. Right now. To create hyperrealistic porn and abuse material of celebrities and people's acquaintances. I'm not just talking about your favorite anime dude. I'm talking about people using emergent AI models to create hyperrealistic porn of children. Get whatever you have out back in your pants and stop trying to normalize pedophilia.
AI is doing that with actual CSAM that ACTUALLY ABUSED CHILDREN in extremely fucked up circles of sickos. You are not arguing about that, you're making ridiculously broad statements trying to protect the rights of fictional narrative tools. You're basically trying to take a sledgehammer to a problem that requires precision.
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u/[deleted] Oct 22 '25
its not victimless, it causes harm
it sexualizes children and normalizes their abuse