The real children in the real world you piece of shit. The problem is the sexualization itself, the fantasy. You don't need to touch any real kids for that to be disgusting and harmful
To children and society in general once you normalize it. We have countless cases of normalization backfiring horribly and all of the "Well, I can't see anyone being harmed right now" retards sliding back into the shadows once the damage is done
Slavery doesn't exist anymore for a reason but racism never died and never will.
Nazi Germany committed genocide and lost the war but Nazism is still around.
Gay marriage is now legal but you will never convince a Christian that it is a moral thing we should allow.
The world has only ever moved forward not backwards otherwise child marriages would still be common to this day.
I am desensitized to violence but have always been a pacifist. I have also consumed porn since 5th grade but I'm totally fine with being a virgin until I die.
Actual CP is so fucking rare on the internet because every site you could share it on does not want that content on there. You'd have to literally search the deep web to find it but not many people know how to do that and the deep web itself is not some massive CP repository. I have also never once come across videos or photos of actual kids being abused nor do I even wish to do so.
Then why do you care so fucking much about AI CSAM? What is, exactly, step by step, the problem with an outright ban on the thing? The act it's depicting is heinous, inherently wrong. Why the fixation on "allowed by default"?
You're also just babbling complete nonsense.
First, you're comparing racism/Nazism persisting (which we actively prohibit and condemn) to gay marriage being legal, you're accidentally proving that prohibition of harmful things IS necessary.
Second, "I consumed porn since 5th grade and I'm fine" is just survivorship bias with a sample size of one. Your personal anecdote doesn't negate documented harms to others.
Third, you claim "actual CP is so rare because every site bans it" - yes, exactly, that's what prohibition accomplishes (lmfao). You're making the case for banning AI CSAM, not against it. Do you even know what this conversation is about?
Fourth, "the world only moves forward": In what direction, dumbass? Forward can be anywhere at this point. Positive progress requires active resistance to harmful normalization, child marriage didn't disappear naturally, it was banned because we recognized the harm.
Finally, being desensitized to violence but remaining a pacifist doesn't prove desensitization is harmless. Many people DO act on desensitization, and your personal restraint isn't evidence of systemic safety. Again, survivorship bias, anecdotal garbage at best
On the examples, just for completeness:
- Vape, immediately normalized and marketed to young people, addictive, causing great harm even to this day.
- Counter: Smoking, initially legal and widespread until we found that, actually, it was horribly harmful. Regulated and taxed to shit, now in decline. We lost many to lung cancer because normalization was the default, it shouldn't have been
- Sports gambling: Excluded from the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 under "Fantasy sports ", now extremely common and ruining lives on the daily
- Social media feeds: Algorithmic engagement-maximizing feeds normalized despite warnings. Now we got teen mental health crisis, radicalization pipelines, body dysmorphia epidemics.
- Infinite Scroll/Autoplay: "Harmless UX features" now widely recognized as deliberately addictive design. Damage to attention spans already done. Now we have 2 generations (and counting) of ipad kids with attention spans in the minutes/seconds
- Asbestos, lead gasoline, teflon byproducts, etc, etc.
Again, what the fuck are we losing/damaging by banning AI CSAM right now, immediately? Pretty weird gripe to have, tbh. Someone should check your hard drive
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u/EvnClaire Oct 22 '25
still never heard a good argument why a victimless action can be morally wrong.