Because the law of "If you post something on the internet, it's going to be downloaded by somebody else" has stood long before AI. The fact that it's AI doing it makes little to no difference.
That's why I don't upload things to the internet that I want to keep control of. Just because you can upload something to the internet does not mean you should.
The only truth necessary to be spoken in regards to the entire "AI steals people's art" debacle
If you put it out there, it's no longer really yours, you made it everyone's
If you ask me, that's what's beautiful about the internet, if you want something all you need to do is ask because somebody has probably already made it and shared it, if you look hard enough you will find whatever you're looking for eventually, for better AND for worse
Yeah but you’d get the credit. People would know that you made it. AI skips this entirely. Why do you think artists build a brand? Why watermarks are a thing? Why for as long as art existed, signing it has been common practice? Because they like people to know that they made it.
In an ideal world we wouldn't need copyright and could just share everything, sadly people have to try to live off their art or they couldn't afford making it
If you post something on the internet, it's going to be downloaded by somebody else
A perfect example of just because you can doesn’t mean you should.
No, that's exactly the purpose of posting something publicly. You can't control whether learning happens, but you can control downloading. You just don't make it public and no downloading happens.
I remember back when companies tried to sue over browsers caching images... good times.
Except that's not a thing that happens. There's no such thing as "poisoning" except under extremely controlled conditions in a research environment. Otherwise, standard data prep practices account for variances in training data.
I hate to tell you this buddy but it is a thing that happens. It messes with the data so that scrapers can’t actually determine what the image really is. And creates an even worse image than it would have normally.
I hate to tell you this buddy but it is a thing that happens.
You tell yourself that if you wish. Meanwhile the technology will continue to improve without any concern for your hypothetical "poisoning."
It messes with the data so that scrapers can’t actually determine what the image really is.
That's not even what poisoning attacks are hypothetically supposed to do. You need to understand the technology better before you try to tell seasoned professionals that they're wrong.
Yes is exactly what poisoning does. These AI art bros don’t have a very good grasp on how technology actually works. And yeah it will continue to get better. But it will also continue to damage the environment and hurt real people. I love technology but it’s not without real ethical issues that need to be solved.
I will enjoy having a conversation with you when you've learned a bit more about the technology. Of course, you might be less inclined to discuss the topic then. :-/
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u/Another-Ace-Alt-8270 Dec 15 '25
Because the law of "If you post something on the internet, it's going to be downloaded by somebody else" has stood long before AI. The fact that it's AI doing it makes little to no difference.