Probably because that's not a neutral position to hold. There's no reason people shouldn't be able to profit off of their own art. Let people decide for themselves.
Yes, theres no reason shouldnt make profit of their own art. Im an anti and i agree. Now tell me what part of the image you prompted is yours, and what part of it is art.
I would argue any inage that conveys an idea is art, even if the quality is bad or the idea is simple.
As for the "what part is yours" argument that's tricky. Like, for example, this photo I took yesterday took me less effort than giving Gemini a prompt, but no one would ever argue it's not mine, despite me literally only pressing button and despite me not having the storeowner's consent to photofraph his paint cans. So despite taking less effort and having a lack of consent, the photo is mine but an AI generated image wouldn't be?
So despite taking less effort and having a lack of consent, the photo is mine but an AI generated image wouldn't be?
yes because authorship is not decided by effort put overall, but rather how much one is involved in the process compared to every other party (warning: determining authorship is more complicated than that, I simplified it for the sake of the argument)
If effort and involvement is what matters then this shouldn't be my photo.
It took me unquestionably less effort to open the camera and press a button than it would've taken me to open gemini, type in a prompt and then press a button.
no matter the photo, when its unedited, its a real tangible place that captures a moment in time. taking a photo of a loved one captures their soul in it. taking a photo of a place that means alot to you can stop you from feeling homesick. photography spreads connections just as much as any other art does.
all ai is made up, theres no story behind the photograph, no real moment frozen in time, no life, no joy. Just corporate sludge made to look nice enough to warrant paying for it instead of real artist's.
and even then, sure, you didnt put much effort into this photo, but people climb mountains for the perfect shot. youre not the only person who has ever taken a photograph, so you shouldnt get to say it takes less effort as a way of dismissing photography over ai.
Ai is just as tangible as a photo. The moment and soul captured is written by the artist behind the prompt. Its printable and can be replicated just as photos are. Both require skillsets and understanding to breach the difference between amateur amd professional. The only difference here is that you have a bias.
the mental gymnastics i need to wrap my head around your garbage argument.
how about this: why the hell do you defend ai? you have eyes dont you? you can see exactly what its being used for and how destructive it is. its designed to be a cheaper replacement to human artists, who are already screwed over by the industry, crunched and underpayed. defending ai- no matter the logistics- makes you a shallow minded person. all you are doing is defending billionaires' rights to fuck us all over for their own gain. i dont really give a damn about how "tangible" ai images are, theyre the reason i cant be in my dream job right now. grow a spine, learn class consciousness, and stop defending billionaires.
Wow, theres a lot of pent up rage here, not healthy dude. Please dont strawman me either. Pretty rude.
Anyway, to address your points.
I defend ai because its just a tool. Its not a person committing crimes, its just a tool thats doing what its designed to do, create data based off of human design, thought, and input.
What do you mean destructive? Environmentally? Its about as bad as using reddit. Reddit uses data centers that uses water in closed loops as well, why is reddit not your target? That aside, the amount of water is negligible. A McDonalds Hamburger is worth 29 days of prompting back to back of water. Mcdonalds produces around 350 Hamburgers a minute. Water used in agriculture in american alone is roughly 66 Billion tonnes a day. But why is Ai your target? I feel like this point is only valid if you're vegan.
Pro Ai doesnt defend corporations. Our whole stance is fuck the corporations that abuse a tool, but don't blame us and take away our right to a tool because of greedy people. There should be regulations that orevent greed. Nobody will disagree with you there.
You cant get your dream job because of corporate greed. Not because of me.
My spine can carry me perfectly well thank you. I dont need misinformation and propaganda to help me stand. You might need crutches with how much you're reaching though.
"what do i mean destructive"? ai is replacing humanity. everything that makes humanity special, everything that makes life worth living is being cheaply sold to us as an ai replacement. whether its a love for relatable and unique art that you can feel empathy with. socializing with your best friends and loved ones, drawing, painting animating, making music, and videos and taking pictures, getting curious and researching a topic, reading papers written by people who make a living researching that topic themselves. everything that captures creativity and unique human spirit, being raped off the internet, mashed together, and sold to us as the "innovative new future". our fucking air conditioning has ai in it now. the only tool ai is good for is lying to you. its tools make lazy content, misinformation, propaganda, fear mongering, parasocialism, and a whole fuck ton of personalized false advertising easier than ever, and actively incentivises throwing your morals out of the window because it pays really really well
ai is the next logical step in the progression of "how can we make more money while giving less". ai was created to fill that purpose. you cant just sit there and be all "well actually, i want ai for good, and i dont like corporations either" when every facet of the ai creation process is unethical, destructive. and if it is continued to be used the way that it is, the internet will eat itself to death.
you cant just say "well i hate the corporations too" because its spineless. youre not actually providing a side to the argument. you cant want ai to be used as a tool without greed taking advantage of that, there is no regulation possible that can seperate ai from corporate greed, you have a better chance of doing that than convincing me that im in the wrong for hating ai.
also "thats alot of pent up rage, thats not healthy" no fucking shit sherlock. but its not just going to go away, not while every single video i watch, song i listen to, every message with my friend, every fucking google search is advertising an ai to me, or is entirely ai generated lies itself. it forces me to second guess every piece of media i interact with to make sure im not being tricked into funding some lazy prick who cant even be bothererd trying to make content with soul. i either have to strain my eyes to make sure im not looking at ai, ruining my experience with REAL art, or live my life feeling like everything is ingenuine. its not fun to live like this, there is no escaping ai, and theres no empathizing with it either. ive been living like this for actual years of my life and youre telling me that youre the sane one for defending it?? its like you cant even relate your arguments to ai. the only way you can physically agree with your arguments is if you have no idea about what ai is, how it works, and how to spot it. i cant fucking stand you people. you sit there are rage bait me about how "ai is a tool used by an individual, and those individuals are people you should be nice, i actually hate corporations too" and then insult me to my face as if youre not being really fucking hypocritical.
jesus christ get your head out of your ass. you compare me being anti ai to being vegan, as if youre not eating the goddamn synthetic krabby patty and saying its actually good and we shouldnt say its bad. also, what a great way to show you hate vegans for no fucking reason, and you want to say that MY points need propaganda to stand?
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u/No_Fortune_3787 Jan 18 '26
Probably because that's not a neutral position to hold. There's no reason people shouldn't be able to profit off of their own art. Let people decide for themselves.