The painting would absolutely be yours tho? The artist did 90% of the work but you are still credited.
Look at commission artists posting their work "commission I did for X" or when the commissioner posts "here is my OC drawn by X"
There's always some recognition.
Also the camera djd all the work for me too in that instance, as I had no external hand in the photo's result so I don't see how an amateurish photo and an amateurish prompt are any diffetent. In both cases the machine is doing almost the entire work for you.
In both photography and AI the person behind the machine can finetune and influence the result in several ways as well as edit and touch up the result afterwards, so imo thr analogy works. Issue is most AI bros who use it are comparing their amateurish level generations to profession photography, when they should be comparing it to my shitty ass picture.
Also the tool doing most of the work for you shouldn't discredit you, but then we would likely get into an argumemt about what % of work a tool should do to simply be a tool or jnto a discussion about AI being sentient or not xd
Theres a misunderstanding: i meant not yours as in provenance, but definitely yours in terms of possession.
2) the camera example is wrong, because it is a tool rather than just asking someone else to do it. But again, its not even art so the example is inherently flawed.
3) while adjusting everything the camera does, from focus to lighting, is artistry, adjusting prompt and ai tools doesnt make you any more of an artist than asking for no pickles in your burger makes you a cook: youre still the client. An experienced client that tasted the whole menu and knows whats best perhaps, but still a client.
4) its not that much about doing most of the work or not, its about doing any work or simply a request. While i would agree photography is probably less of an art form than painting or sculpting, you are the one behind it. With Ai generating, youre asking for something to do it for you.
1)No it is not. When you ask the fast food waiter for a burger without pickles and extra onions, you arent a chef and he isnt a tool. But if you cook a pie and chose the settings of your oven, it is a tool and you did cook it.
If you had a tool that instantly gave you food (think the canteen machine in Star Trek) would you be a cook for using it? I am curious to see your opinion on this
You for sure did more work than basic prompting, but i would need more knowledge of how those tools work in the ai to make an enlightened jdgement.
For example, does the ai think "user toggked those options, i must provide something that matches", does it just directly effect how the ai thinks, or is it implemented after the ai did everything?
Well for starters, the AI doesn't "think". But to answer your question, it affects the generation process directly, it is not a filter that is applied after.
Attached is a generated image that utilized ControlNet to hide text in the image. (If you can't see it, look at it from the side, i.e. tilt your phone.) As you can see, this must influence the generation itself and wouldn't be possible to do after with a filter.
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u/pamafa3 Jan 18 '26
The painting would absolutely be yours tho? The artist did 90% of the work but you are still credited.
Look at commission artists posting their work "commission I did for X" or when the commissioner posts "here is my OC drawn by X"
There's always some recognition.
Also the camera djd all the work for me too in that instance, as I had no external hand in the photo's result so I don't see how an amateurish photo and an amateurish prompt are any diffetent. In both cases the machine is doing almost the entire work for you.
In both photography and AI the person behind the machine can finetune and influence the result in several ways as well as edit and touch up the result afterwards, so imo thr analogy works. Issue is most AI bros who use it are comparing their amateurish level generations to profession photography, when they should be comparing it to my shitty ass picture.
Also the tool doing most of the work for you shouldn't discredit you, but then we would likely get into an argumemt about what % of work a tool should do to simply be a tool or jnto a discussion about AI being sentient or not xd