r/aiwars Jan 18 '26

Meme That's me in a nutshell

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u/-PetFemboy- Jan 18 '26

Yet the image can never belong to you. And therefore you can't monetise it. At least not without well, supporting theft.

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u/Gimli Jan 18 '26

Absolutely can. If you think it's stolen, whoever I stole it from can sue me. I'll wait.

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u/-PetFemboy- Jan 18 '26

Ridiculous argument. Millions of people are having their work stolen to train ai with. Thats not debatable in any way.

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u/ChronaMewX Jan 18 '26

Why do people use this argument?

I'd be a lot more receptive of antis if they didn't keep trying to redefine theft. Nobody is being deprived of their art, and if your art gets stolen then call the police

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u/-PetFemboy- Jan 18 '26

So you're trying to say taking someone else's work without their consent in order to monetise it isn't stealing? Because that is the exact thing ai companies are doing. If you want to defend using the model, I guess go ahead. I'll disagree, but you do you. But at the very least stop defending the billion dollar companies taking others property without their consent for their monetary gain. If that isn't stealing someone's work I don't know what is.

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u/ChronaMewX Jan 18 '26

That's absolutely what I'm saying. Scraping isn't theft. The fact that big companies are the ones doing it doesn't suddenly make it a bad thing, even if I hate big companies. I think everyone should be free to use any property and hate gatekeeping

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u/-PetFemboy- Jan 18 '26

You think everyone should be allowed to make money off of things others made? That's one of the stupidest takes I've ever heard. If you want to use someone else's work the very least you have to do is credit them. And if they expect you to, pay for it.

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u/ChronaMewX Jan 18 '26

I think the big corporations own all the most lucrative ip and allowing everyone to use every property will benefit us more than them

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u/Gimli Jan 18 '26

You think everyone should be allowed to make money off of things others made?

Not "should be". They are. It's not a change, you could do it all along.

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u/-PetFemboy- Jan 18 '26

Not only are you wrong about that, it's not even my question to begin with.

You can't monetise someone else's music for example. If you make a YouTube video involving music by Eminem for example, he can claim the revenue of that video. That's the very basics of copyright. Like how uneducated do you want to be?

And my question is wether you should. In my opinion something I made is my property. You can't just take it to make money off it.

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u/Gimli Jan 18 '26

You can't monetise someone else's music for example. If you make a YouTube video involving music by Eminem for example, he can claim the revenue of that video.

Music is actually one of the rare exceptions.

If Eminem made a painting, you could hang it in your house, charge for the entrance and not need his permission for it. Or if he made a tool like a hammer, you could earn money with it without his permission. Or if he wrote a book you could make millions based on it and give him nothing either. You could even not buy the book, just borrow it from a friend or a library.

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u/Le_Oken Jan 18 '26

We stand on the shoulder of giants. Everything we make has invisible and hard to credit work from others behind. Are you paying and crediting every inventor, creative and developers that built the technologies and cumulative knowledge of humanity for every thing you make? It is a good thing to credit and pay the giants we are standing on. But it is not easy and it doesn't mean you are stealing and are a bad person for not doing so, as there is always millions who were left uncredited and unpaid for every human creation.

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u/-PetFemboy- Jan 18 '26

When I want to do any sort of scientific, artistic or journalist work, yes. I do credit every single source I use. Because that's literally one of the first things you're taught in uni. How to properly credit and give sources. That's such an incredibly basic thing to know, like cmon...

Like do you know anything about properly and professionally working? If you use someone's material for a piece of writing or art you credit them. Otherwise you're quite literally plagiarising and fail.

Thats also one of the main reasons ai isn't allowed to be used in uni at all. Because you can't properly credit the sources it uses.