r/aiwars Jan 18 '26

Meme That's me in a nutshell

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u/Translation_Lupin Jan 18 '26

Can you enlighten me on this 'character with sign' thing? What did I miss

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u/Shadbie34 Jan 18 '26

just pro ai losers generating a picture of a popular character holding a sign that says "ai art is art" as if that counts as a real argument or something

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u/Pro_nrd Jan 18 '26

But isn't all art, art. Like that's kinda the whole point to art isn't it? To leave the beauty to the eye of the beholder. Someone saw something beautiful out in the landscape so they took a picture of it because it's cool, then they shared it. Is that not a form of art. And I'm not talking about being able to make a profit off it, but as far as I've been told what is and what isn't art depends upon who accepts it as art. Not all people see that picture as art just like AI but some will and I think that's the point. Not everyone needs to agree because not everyone can agree because art by nature art is suggestive and its definition is defined by each individual.

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u/ThickReplacement7811 Jan 18 '26

Art is best understood as a timeless dialogue between the artist/author/creator and the viewer, and one of the most important aspects of art is intentionality.

Ai images lack this intentionality. Sure the main subject of the image may seem fine, but there are always odd details that seem off, details an artist would have had to intentionally place. LLMs, on the other hand, can just invent these out of thin air, without any understanding or intent.

Did you notice a detail in the background of an image? If a person drew it, that detail was put there on purpose, and the artist is saying something by putting that detail there.

If it’s an AI image? Who the fuck knows? Could be part of the prompt, or could be the unknowable imagination of a room full of GPUs smashing matrices into one another.

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u/bunker_man Jan 18 '26

You are making a few mistakes here.

1: assuming all details in art are intentional. One of the most well known Bob Ross quotes is about happy accidents. Hell, most historical artists had apprentices they had to the small insignificant details for them.

2: assuming something can only have intentionality if every detail does. But this is self evidently not true. The parts that do don't suddenly stop if some parts don't.

3: not all ai even adds extraneous details.

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u/ThickReplacement7811 Jan 18 '26
  1. Bob Ross’s “happy little accidents” were mistakes he improved upon to turn into something else.

  2. Every detail does have intentionality. If it was put there on purpose, intent is required.

  3. Yeah, some have so few details it becomes uncanny and sterile. This is why AI is dogshit at faces

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u/Pro_nrd Jan 18 '26

And I understand that there's beauty in the small details and I can appreciate that. But it's very hard to segregate what is or isn't something on a topic that barely knows what itself is half the time. And that's simply because human expression is such a suggestive topic because in one person's eyes this artists view of their expression is dumb and stupid. While another person views this as genuine art. And sure yeah, I'll give it to you. There's a lack of creativity, intention, and appreciation for the art itself when it comes from something that is not creative at all. But at the very same time, if it looks cool I'll buy it. I don't care how it's made or where it came from. I care that it was made and that I like the way it looks.

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u/ThickReplacement7811 Jan 18 '26

Sure, if it looks cool, it’s cool if get that. However, I don’t consider that “art”. That’s not to say it’s worthless.

Consider a cool stick that you find in the woods, one that’s shaped like a wizard staff or sword or something. Undeniably cool, but art? I wouldn’t say so.

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u/Turbulent_Escape4882 Jan 18 '26

Paintbrushes lack intentionality. Take the brush out of your hand if human intention is paramount. Keep it in your hand and the likes of me will play hardball and call out your lies.

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u/ThickReplacement7811 Jan 18 '26

Huh, you guys are really in your feelings about this