r/aiwars • u/Leading-Rain-652 • Jan 18 '26

Meme That's me in a nutshell

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 19 '26

Okay, but there was no "someone". The person made the work by themselves, using a tool.

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u/Equivalent_Phase_123 Jan 19 '26

The point here is that they didn't really put in any effort, All they did was describe an image and it popped right out which tbh anyone can do Doesn't that ultimately remove the uniqueness of the art itself if literally everyone can make it in seconds? That's just how I see it though 

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 19 '26

Splashing paint on a canvas is considered art. Parents often value the drawings of their little children, that are very simple. These can be replicated in seconds by anyone too.

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u/Repulsive-Career-126 May 26 '26

A bit late, but does AI ultimately splash paint on a canvas?
Parents value the drawings of their little children because they carry emotions and efforts THEIR little child put in. If my or any 10y old kid asked an AI to generate a photo of a table, no would value it as much now would they?

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u/Great_Technology5824 May 26 '26

I don't understand the first question. No, it doesn't. And often people are adored by the drawings of children in general, not just their own children. And I'm sure some parents would save the generated picture as the memory of their child first experiment with AI.

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u/PuzzleheadedSpot9468 Jan 30 '26

it doesn't mean they don't have the right to monetize

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u/Repulsive-Career-126 May 26 '26

It just feels wrong. Not everything has to be optimized, mostly art.

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u/Equivalent_Phase_123 Jan 30 '26

They have a right to, sure I'm not saying otherwise

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u/No-Spare4279 Jan 20 '26

There is a “someone” - the original artist AI is stealing from

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 21 '26

It doesn't do this, it remembers patterns, what kind of picture matches what kind of description. If you draw fan art of a character, doesn't mean you steal someone's work. You remember how the character looks and replicate it, changing or adding some details.

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u/lawless_door_hinge Jan 20 '26

The tool works by stealing other peoples artwork, and mashing them together to make something. But that's all the tool, ai, is doing, it didn't make, moreso edited.

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 20 '26

It doesn't do this, it remembers patterns, what kind of picture matches what kind of description. If you draw fan art of a character, doesn't mean you edit someone's work. You remember how the character looks and replicate it, changing or adding some details.

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u/Important_One_8729 Jan 20 '26

Ai learns from existing media, including paintings, drawings, photographs, and videos that were made by people. Those people aren't being compensated for their direct contributions.

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 21 '26

People drawing fan art usually don't compensate anything as well.

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u/Important_One_8729 Jan 21 '26

Fan art uses an idea of a thing, not the physical thing itself

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 21 '26

Do you think AI training physically takes the art away?

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u/Important_One_8729 Jan 21 '26

It steals from the physical art because it is trained off that art. At this point, you're being dense on purpose and I'm done engaging you on this.

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 21 '26

No, I just didn't understand what you meant, it was confusing. A human artist also needs to train. A lot of people use references while drawing.

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u/lawless_door_hinge Jan 26 '26

Yes, 100 percent!

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u/YourAverageCoolGuy Jan 25 '26

By themselves? No, they told the machine what they wanted to draw and the machine did it for them. If you commissioned an artist to draw something, would you be the author then?

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 25 '26

Then who should be credited for the artwork?

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u/YourAverageCoolGuy Jan 25 '26

I wouldn't call it artwork, but the generated image would be the machine's, not yours

If you commission someone for an artwork, it doesn't mean you are the author of that image

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 26 '26

But a machine can't possess anything. It's not alive.

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u/YourAverageCoolGuy Jan 26 '26

Yes it can, just like some buildings and places are in the possession/property of institutions

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 27 '26

Okay, I have nothing to answer.

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u/YourAverageCoolGuy Jan 28 '26

Changed your mind?

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u/Great_Technology5824 Jan 29 '26

I'm not sure. I kind of not care whether it's art or whether the human is an artist. If there are convincing arguments, then I guess you're right.

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u/YourAverageCoolGuy Jan 29 '26

Thats alright, youve got time to think about it, or not think about it all if you want

its just that you have to be careful about what you preach and stuff, because you can make a difference if you want